I Did it Because I Hate Myself (Kratos vs Oryx)

[PsychoWarper]

“Characters with such powers may simply be unaffected by normal attacks, necessitating the use of things like Durability Negation to get through. Others have more conditional invulnerability, such as one that just prevents harm from conventional weaponry, but can be easily circumvented by supernatural abilities. It can be considered the defensive equivalent of Durability Negation, negating simple Attack Potency, though one should be careful not to apply No Limits Fallacy.”

It is specifically concerned about AP

 

[Sniper670]

I mean it’s objectively wrong to say Invulnerablity blocks mental stuff thats not how the power works as far as I know its resistances

Invulnerability is for physical attacks(AP) , anything else is just resistance to this and that. You're right

 

[Robo432343]

Take is 4D so 4 layers are weak as hell

does it say that on profile

 

[PsychoWarper]

I mean I'd disagree but honestly, no point in splitting hairs over it. So long as we're on the same page of what's happening with Hope.

You can disagree but you would be wrong according to the current Invulnerablity page, but regardless it doesnt matter for what the stuff does itself.

 

[Planck69]

Take is 4D so 4 layers are weak as hell

...Which is why I said it's irrelevant since Hope is 5-D. It's "4 layers" in the sense that that's what's been showcased so far by other characters who all have 4-D hax and resistances, not that it hardcaps there.

 

[PsychoWarper]

So can Kratos hit Oryx? From what I can tell this is either Incon cause they can’t harm each other or Oryx can’t effect Kratos but Kratos can nuke his Concept with 5-D stuff or whatever and this isna stomp

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Hard to say with that Acausality.

 

[Planck69]

Apparently, Acausality is as bound by dimensionality as anything else now. So, yeah.

 

[Sniper670]

...Which is why I said it's irrelevant since Hope is 5-D. It's "4 layers" in the sense that that's what's been showcased so far by other characters who all have 4-D hax and resistances, not that it hardcaps there.

4 layers of what.

No. Oryx has many options here. What has Kratos resisted with hope and let's dive into the things he has t resisted, kill him and close the thread peacefully

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Hope just amps his ass with to it's level. So all his innate shit ( hax and resistance) will be smurf. It's that simple.

 

[Robo432343]

ffs i vote incon fra

 

[Planck69]

4 layers of what.

Mind/Soul/concept hax among other things. But these two are the most relevant ones.

No. Oryx has many options here. What has Kratos resisted with hope and let's dive into the things he has t resisted, kill him and close the thread peacefully

What options? Destroying Kratos concept won't work for anything and the remaining powers Oryx has have been resisted and are guarded against by Hope amplifying and being embodied by Kratos. Like, this is all hinging on Kratos not getting one move of at all. Which doesn't seem to be the case.

 

[PsychoWarper]

If everything is 5-D including like the Invul/resistances then this is a stomp simple as

 

[Planck69]

If everything is 5-D including like the Invul/resistances then this is a stomp simple as

Seems so, with Acausality not working. Ya want me to close this?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Mind/Soul/concept hax among other things. But these two are the most relevant ones.

What options? Destroying Kratos concept won't work for anything and the remaining powers Oryx has have been resisted and are guarded against by Hope amplifying and being embodied by Kratos. Like, this is all hinging on Kratos not getting one move of at all. Which doesn't seem to be the case.

So body puppetry still works right? Lol

 

[Planck69]

So body puppetry still works right? Lol

How? Any avenue of that is resisted (mental, biological etc).

Unless you're like, memeing.

 

[Sniper670]

Hope just amps his ass with to it's level. So all his innate shit ( hax and resistance) will be smurf. It's that simple.

Scans of this

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

So body puppetry still works right? Lol

Body puppetry resistance is innate.

 

[Sniper670]

Since when was Kratos 5D?

I'll look into this.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Scans of this

??
It's literally shown.
Fear Zeus's soul, mind, CM nothing works.
It's literally a cutscene, better than statement lmao. What else do you want?

 

[Planck69]

Since when was Kratos 5D?

I'll look into this.

Hope's 5-D via being above Athena, who's higher-D relative to the Greek World and its space-time continuums.

 

[DaReaperMan]

How? Any avenue of that is resisted (mental, biological etc).

Unless you're like, memeing.

Unless I'm missing something Kratos lacks a resistance to all of the Taking stuff on his profile

 

[Planck69]

??
It's literally shown.
Fear Zeus's soul, mind, CM nothing works.
It's literally a cutscene, better than statement lmao. What else do you want?

Athena verbatim says his is a power that Zeus could never destroy as well.

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Unless I'm missing something Kratos lacks a resistance to all of the Taking stuff on his profile

Such as ?

 

[Planck69]

Unless I'm missing something Kratos lacks a resistance to all of the Taking stuff on his profile

....? Other than EE and info like I said, the space-time, void, corruption, reality warping, concept manip and law-hax are all powers he either resists on his page or is completely and utterly above their wielders in the series (The Furies with Law Hax and Reality Warping for example).

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Athena verbatim says his is a power that Zeus could never destroy as well.

That and Fear gets burned everytime it even tried touching Kratos.

 

[KLOL506]

Hope's 5-D via being above Athena, who's higher-D relative to the Greek World and its space-time continuums.

Literally just went through this in the General CRT Part 2 LMAO

 

[Sniper670]

HAHAHA

 

[Planck69]

.....Okaaay then.

To the rest, any issues with closing this? Like, it's a mismatch regardless of how you slice it.

 

[Robo432343]

.....Okaaay then.

To the rest, any issues with closing this? Like, it's a mismatch regardless of how you slice it.

ey this would mean kratos would surpass characters from destiny in non smurf list?

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

Yeet

 

[Sniper670]

ey this would mean kratos would surpass characters from destiny in non smurf list?

Not for long

 

[Planck69]

ey this would mean kratos would surpass characters from destiny in non smurf list?

I suppose so.

 

[DaReaperMan]

ey this would mean kratos would surpass characters from destiny in non smurf list?

He's a smurf so no lol