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Hyperverse ambiguous of SCP-682 and other characters of SCPverse

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I noticed that various SCPverse characters were not all the same "fiction", like The Scarlet King and The Brothers Deaths, which are different stories ...

The point I would like to make is that the 196,884D in Yaldabaoth's profile to explain the 1-B of all Hyperverse characters in SCPverse are apparently not valid for everyone, since all stories are likely to be non-canon fanfictions to the original works of the Foundation, and that the latter would not coincide with each other ...

So, someone would have the word of the story? Namely the proof that the number of dimensions shown is valid for ALL Hyperverse SCPverse and if the stories where are stated various characters like Mekhane, Scarlet King or He-Who-Made-Light / Dark are baleen or follow when even the original SCP and their stories and reports ...
 
What Wokistan said.

But notably, all of those "fictions" essentially do scale to each other/are canon to each other, but we are questioning the veracity of both the 196,884 dimensions number (it might be upgraded to 71,127,790 dimensions or lowered to 2-A) and the reliability of Yaldabaoth's statement of destroying "All dimensions".
 
Right, that too. Forgot about that one.
 
As for the Yaldabaoth thing, they explicitly refer to other universes as universes and spatial dimensions as dimensions, that coupled with Yaldabaoth's direct connection to Alagadda kinda proves its spatial dimensions (Plus you know, destroying all of time and space)
 
Here's the full quote.

YALDABAOTH requires flesh - the Sarkic - in order to regenerate itself. You have the means to prevent his resurrection. Your reality is the last; the only known whose fate has not been decided. If the Demiurge breaks free in your realm, it dooms us as well - the wisest among us have calculated that it will be enough to tip the scales in his favor.
All dimensions, all realities; time and space - the Demiurge will manifest itself across every possible iteration of existence. All that we have achieved here will be undone in an instant.

To put it simply: if his disease is allowed to infect your realm, it will damn us all. There are some on this side that, for all their compassion, believe we must act against you. Yours would not be the first gangrenous limb to be amputated.''
Here it says that one "reality" is the last that Yaldabaoth isn't in. It seems weird that a High 1-B being would be in every single universe except for one, it's more consistent for a 2-A that's in every universe in the multiverse except for one.

And it also seems weird for one 4D universe to be the thing that tips the scales for how strong a High 1-B is.

And this doesn't conclusively refer to spatial dimensions. There's talk about "realms" and "realities", each obviously referring to a single universe but using different words, why are we assuming that "dimension" then has to be referring to spatial dimensions?
 
What Agnaa said. Yaldy and most of the other god tiers are likely going to 2-A due to that as well as 2-A being more consistent with their interpretations in most canons/tales.

Infinite dimensions will be a thing though, just for 3812 and Swann, alongside a number of other SCPs that high in the narrative structure.
 
Yeah saik this is basically the state of the discord

Weekly you're*43 probably better off arguing for the tier 1 stuff there, considering everyone complains about you taking ages to post stuff.
 
WeeklyBattles said:
2-A is nowhere near consistent my dude, i found more tier 1 stuff for them than anything tier 2
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Could you share it with us? We've been looking hard but struggled to find it.

On another note, I'm not sure if 2-A is the right thing to downgrade to, since there is that Low 1-C SCP, and there are characters stated to have created every SCP.

...Then again, "every SCP" includes characters like SCP-3812, SCP-343, SCP-682, SCP-1440, and SCP-239, and there's over a dozen different characters stated to have created/been the source of every SCP, making none of them really reliable.
 
eggnaa leeching scans again

anyways if the statement for yalda doesn't go through idk what we should scale them to unless there's explicit statement of the tree n shit govering higher dimensions
 
Doubt all you like but there are over a dozen tier 1 feats for the Low elder gods alone, let alone the characters that scale massively above them
 
Hykuu said:
anyways if the statement for yalda doesn't go through idk what we should scale them to unless there's explicit statement of the tree n shit govering higher dimensions
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There is, three actually
 
@Holyhotsauce That's not gonna get us anywhere.

WeeklyBattles said:
Doubt all you like but there are over a dozen tier 1 feats for the Low elder gods alone, let alone the characters that scale massively above them
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Could you share it with us? We've been looking hard but struggled to find it.
 
Weekly if u had all these scans supposedly all along why didn't you just drop them whenever needed instead of pushing them into a single blog which will never come out at this rate
 
My baseline assumption until evidence to the contrary is presented is 2-A. If Weekly had "dozens" of Tier 1 statements for Yaldy and friends I'm wondering why they have never been posted on the discord when prompted.

@Agnaa Yes, there is "that one Low 1-C SCP", which is only Low 1-C via being a higher dimensional object. From what I recall there is no mention of Yaldy or anyone else being able to interact with/destroy it. Assuming Ultima's revisions go through that SCP would also no longer maintain Low 1-C.

Also "creating every SCP" shouldn't count as a feat. Even if we're generously combining every canon, it's silly to think the author was accounting for every single one of the thousands of articles on the site when writing a statement like that. Many 001 Proposals manage to sneak their way onto the same level as something like 3812 even when their best feats outside of "create every SCP" barely breech Tier 2.
 
And as a disclaimer, High 1-B will likely be a thing. Just not for most outside of 3812 and Swann.
 
pretty sure I saw it somewhere, I can't find it though oddly, someone else should have the scan
 
It was Mr. Shapey. But his SCP profile is deleted now don't know why.

Edit: Apparently the author wasn't happy with it and he had rewritte it.
 
Ogbunabali said:
It was Mr. Shapey. But his SCP profile is deleted now don't know why.
Edit: Apparently the author wasn't happy with it and he had rewritte it.
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That would be tantamount to a retcon, then, and 10D wouldn't apply.
 
I have read the comments above, but I still do not understand how the stories are cannons between them nor how can this be canons to the original reports ...

Originally, I would like to know, through proofs and especially links, where it is said that each dimensionally superior characters are quoted together in the same story, which would amount to potentially scaling, as well as the proof that the 196.884 D indicating a Hyperverse are really the number of higher dimensions that the lodging contains, because personally, this number of higher dimensions does not agree with the canon of SCPverse ...
 
I'm not sure if they're all quoted together in the same one story, but they all link together to scale to each other, all the way through the hierarchy.

So we won't be able to link one tale to solve it, it'll be more like 20.

Like we've said above, them scaling to that dimension statement is currently in question, so we can't really give a good answer to that.
 
After, I quote only the number of D which I remember, I indeed understand that the same number was at the review, but what I would like to know above all, is where and in what story in particular, with the passage and ect, it is said that all the characters, such as the Lord of Alagadda, the Scarlet King, the Brothers Death or the SCP who had a special role in relation to these same characters, such as SCP-076, SCP-173 or SCP-682, are described as interrelated ...
 
I believe SCP-076, SCP-173, and SCP-682 interacting with the other god-tiers was part of this hub or this hub.

The second one has the 1-B SCP-173 (The Koitern), the first one has the 1-B SCP-682 (Leviathan), and probably the 1-B SCP-076 stuff, as well as their interactions with the other god-tiers.
 
There's also some supplementary stuff in Three Short Works About Death, Dread and Circuses, and A Wandsman in the Court of the Hanged King

As well as other minor odds and ends stuff
 
Because it's good to have SCP Hyperverse or about 10D as I quickly saw above according to certain assumptions, but without any links on the profiles of the characters or evidence to attest to this, or even explanations concerning the stories of the Tree of Knowledge, which would also prove that these same stories are canons to the original reports of the Foundation, it's a shame because it gives a visually consistent work but still not quite incomplete as well that for some, fuzzy overall ...

Otherwise, these stories are admitted by the creators of the represented PCS and thus respect the original canon ?
 
@Enigma The infinite-dimensional statement we're going to be using actually ties into the stuff we linked
 
We've decided that original canon doesn't really make sense for the god-tiers, so they're just purely extended canon. A lot of them were slowly built from off-hand mentions from multiple authors in earlier days that eventually accumulated into a coherent being.

Like I don't know if some dude who left a little hint about how an SCP was related to some "Scarlet King" gets their tales to be the arbiter of what's canon to that page, when they contributed almost nothing to what SK is now.
 
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