Do you mean the page that mainly seems to be dealing with physical regen, that + the fact that bass.exe's regen is literally from his disembodied consciousness that isn't affected by the destruction of it's body, would be affected by being turning into something else when it can just make a new one
Because by turning someone into an inaminate object, such being can not even act on it's own volition, rendering their consciousness null and permanently killing those kind of characters alone. Your words VS the page.
you wot, the consciousness is not reliant on the body, his cono=iousness is literally not tied to his body if it was reliant on his soul then you had an argument, but here, you don't his body and mind are separate things, does the cloud get affect if the computer that is storing data to it gets affected, no it does not, and that is the same case here, the petrification is only going to affect his body, not his mind
If so, then how it is fair in any way?
no idea, this man had a fair match (and by that, I mean added to the profiles) with Archie sonic with him as his low 1-C smurf self, and that was with .EXE, not OVER-1 who is nigh composite megaman
Actually transmutation is assumed to affect the mind that operates the body by default, Buu is an living example of this thing and Vegito who had a limited resistance could still retain his consciousness after being turned into candy. That example would be false equivalence assuming the case is not linearly similar here.
I am mainly arguing for OVER, in particular here given his regen being reliant on something transmutation should be able to affect, given it is literally detached from his body
Perfect Chaos was purified of it's rage though, and Super Sonic quite off made his will to fight inert after defeating him.
yeah, no, he has base MegaMan who just says no to that stuff due to Inorganic type 2, and even then he has his own resistances
what incap method does he have, cause he cant just try and knock him out, his ap advantage is too atrocious for that, and he resists sealing, and bfr, and from what I remember of the media, chaos control does not last forever, and if he tries to hold OVER down he is getting AZ'd or matter haxed
no, that isnt how we treat incap via killing, you have to do it practically passively for it to count, yes that is as dumb as it sounds
Where does it say that?
It has been treated like that for as long as I can remember, see this UKG vs Reinhard match in which if it passively kills them then it would count as an incap, with mods who were on that thread (Schnee, Warren, and Redgrave) agreeing that that was how it worked
only peak positive amped super sonic and hyper sonic have this, most of the time sonic turns normal super
Hyper Sonic scales above Peak Super Sonic, who have this ability, since Hyper Sonic has all of Super Sonic's abilities, but much stronger
i do know this, what i am saying is that it likely isn't applicable in this case given that a)the bosses where he does go peak super sonic bar solaris would get one shot like nothing else, time eater would not even exist in the first place, egg wizard would of been done in before it was even made, etc etc, saying that super sonic just normally has the ability to hit people across all of time and space just doesn't make sense, what is more likely is that he has the ability to hit omnipresents across all of time rather than hit a person through all of time
This is not Super Sonic, this is Hyper Sonic being used
Which is literally no other boss in the franchise.
Read above. Time Eater doesn't even scale to the full cosmology.
So you want us to follow the route of an even bigger assumption?
Wokistan's claim in Vs Central is kinda misleading. Sonic, Shadow, and Silver OCCUPY the Present, Past, and Future respectively. But to meaningfully harm Solaris, you HAVE to be affecting all of him. It's exactly why any individual member of the Super Trio can completely destroy its armor despite being a Temporally Omnipresent being. It wasn't that they couldn't harm him, it's that they couldn't SUBDUE him. They could harm him just fine, but that alone wasn't going to deal with Solaris.
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I do know that they occupy different time periods, but doesn't this literally go against an earlier statement about them having to all attack at once to do any damage if I remember right, unless that was just bad translations at work again
I think you're getting that from Shadow saying they needed Sonic to permanently kill Solaris, but that was upended. Remember that Phase 2 was reached because the Super Trio successfully managed to harm Solaris and temporarily bring it down, in which they hoped it would die. But Phase 2 wasn't expected by the cast, as they showed surprise that Solaris got back up to fight again. That's why they subdued it in the first place. They could harm it, they DID harm it even, but it didn't do any good in the long run because of Solaris' state of being.
Sonic can affect Type 1 Abstracts (Void from Sonic Shuffle). He needs more than that?
yeah, you need specific npi for specific categories, if you can affect abstracts but not intangibles then you are fresh out of luck, that is just how we treat it
Oh. OHHHH, I completely missed what you meant. But Sonic can affect intangible beings tho, his NPI covers a few bases.
like what, ghosts don't count since they are incorporeal
