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It has been said that Paths are the congregation of imaginary energy.
The profiles of Aeons, such as this, have been shown to contain scans and references from Honkai Impact 3rd which involves transcendence upon the Imaginary Tree.
During the close beta test of Honkai: Star Rail, Luocha had ascension materials that were directly harnessed from the Imaginary Tree. It wasn't only stated to be the ascension material for Luocha, but all Imaginary type characters.
The Imaginary Tree branches ascension material shares the same properties of the Imaginary Tree from Hi3rd.
As you can see in the two Imgur galleries, the description of the Imaginary Tree stated on Luocha's ascension material matches Durandal statement on the Imaginary Tree of Honkai Impact 3rd. Both are said to govern practically everything about the "universe" and existed primordially at the beginning of time.
Not to mention Welt directly travelled from the Hi3rd universe. There's really no doubt that Hi3rd and HSR are directly connected on the same Imaginary Tree.
The Imaginary Tree and Sea of Quanta has been accepted here as High 1-C on an 11-D scale.
Since the CRT is old and may be questioned if the scaling is still valid:
Honkai as a Universal Energy System
Honkai energy is used by all the combatants in the verse and helps them in many ways. The section below explains how Honkai energy qualifies for a Universal Energy System. And given its feats and mechanisms, the following abilities are granted by default to any user: Energy Absorption, Statistics Amplification & Damage Boost.
Another feat to support Star of Eden's rating, it also destroyed the Theather of Domination, a higher-dimensional realm.
Herrschers can manipulate Higher-dimensions.
Scaling:
We have a very direct higher-D feat performed by Welt in his fight against Ryusuke, a higher-dimensional being who could easily destroy the lower-dimensional realms and be unaffected by anything from them, with the lower-dimension being powerless against him, Welt had to go above any 3-D to defeat him, and in the end we see that Welt destroyed the realm and killed him.
Our tiering faq and system says: “Furthermore, higher-dimensional entities can also qualify for higher tiers when the verse which they are from explicitly defines them as being infinitely above lower-dimensional ones in power and/or existential status.”
And despite the new standards, this is still valid.
Ryusuke qualifies since his power is that way because of his higher dimensionality compared to 3-dimensions, Star of Eden will have its AP scaled to it for having not only destroyed and killed Ryusuke, but gravity itself is a higher-dimensional force in the verse, as Welt claimed space was born from it, which is supported by 11-D supergravity existing at low energies.
More support for HE being smurf:
Honkai energy supports the Sea of Quanta/Ether Archor, both being 11-D, and has a connection with it. Honkai energy in the Sea of Quanta was also able to corrode and destroy the Ether Anchor
People draw energy from Sea. Honkai's source is higher-dimensional. You need to have Honkai resistance to withstand the Sea, and resistance is what allows the manipulation of Honkai. Honkai energy can also BFR people to there.
Honkai energy has High 1-C potency and range as it can destroy and support 11-D stuff, as well as sending things to there, people can draw and resist Honkai energy from the same place.
At very least we can upgrade the AP to Low-2C via Star of Eden's feat and Hax to 11-D. Although, this is kinda of a weird spot, given Honkai energy is an UES, physicals would end up scaling to it
Anyways, conclusion: all character who scales on par with Pathstriders and Emanators, especially Aeons should have their tiering upgraded to High 1-C via scaling off Imaginary energy, which is directly derived from the Imaginary tree. Talking about the Star of Eden, it will scale to 2 characters, and with that, some high-tiers will scale as well, but first, what is the Star of Eden? this weapon is a divine key, forged using the core of the 9th Herrscher as its power source, since we know that the Star of Eden's power source comes from the core of the 9th Herrscher, we can scale its AP to the respective Herrscher, Kevin defeated this Herrscher by himself, HoT Mei with Durandal's help also defeated Herrscher of Rimestar, who not only had the 9th Core, but also another one (They were fused), we can even see Mei holding the cores after the fight. I should also note that divine keys cannot harness the same power as Herrschers, while Herrschers are so able to do the same as their respective divine keys, there shouldn't be any doubts about the scaling. Welt still has the Star of Eden in Star Rail.
Credits to @Shiroiyo for helping me out with this CRT
Agree: Catzlaflame, DarkDragonMedeus, Planck69 {3}
Disagree:
The profiles of Aeons, such as this, have been shown to contain scans and references from Honkai Impact 3rd which involves transcendence upon the Imaginary Tree.
During the close beta test of Honkai: Star Rail, Luocha had ascension materials that were directly harnessed from the Imaginary Tree. It wasn't only stated to be the ascension material for Luocha, but all Imaginary type characters.
The Imaginary Tree branches ascension material shares the same properties of the Imaginary Tree from Hi3rd.
As you can see in the two Imgur galleries, the description of the Imaginary Tree stated on Luocha's ascension material matches Durandal statement on the Imaginary Tree of Honkai Impact 3rd. Both are said to govern practically everything about the "universe" and existed primordially at the beginning of time.
Not to mention Welt directly travelled from the Hi3rd universe. There's really no doubt that Hi3rd and HSR are directly connected on the same Imaginary Tree.
The Imaginary Tree and Sea of Quanta has been accepted here as High 1-C on an 11-D scale.
Since the CRT is old and may be questioned if the scaling is still valid:
Yes, the scaling is still valid. As you can see Kiana had High 1-C durability with the Imaginary Barrier on this version of her article. The reason why the High-Complex Multiversal durability was butchered is because of this, which linked a CRT to delete and recreate the verse because of its terrible state of pages that violated our statistic indexing guidelines, but absolutely nothing was accepted to debunk the 11-dimensional nature of the Imaginary Tree and the Sea of Quanta.
Honkai as a Universal Energy System
Honkai energy is used by all the combatants in the verse and helps them in many ways. The section below explains how Honkai energy qualifies for a Universal Energy System. And given its feats and mechanisms, the following abilities are granted by default to any user: Energy Absorption, Statistics Amplification & Damage Boost.
Universal Use：
Honkai energy is used by everything in the setting, from reactors, vehicles, mechs, and civilizations, to individuals who can freely manipulate it, be it Valkyries through their stigmata, MANTIS and Honkai beasts through Honkai in their genes, and Herrschers by their cores and bodies filled with Honkai energy. Furthermore, individuals with Honkai resistance can also manipulate it.
It powers all abilities, from battlesuits, weapons to powers, some examples are: Honkai energy being used to manipulate matter, Kiana/Sirin using Honkai energy to cause spatial curvatures, Ana Schariac using Honkai energy for her ice manipulation, Herrscher of Sentience's illusions releasing Honkai energy, Honkai beasts using Honkai energy to create acid storms.
Empowerment：
Honkai energy and its users have demonstrated several feats in terms of amplification, whether boosting the user's physique, speed or abilities, both passively and actively.
Examples of passive strengthening are the enhancements received by Valkyries through their stigmas, making their body one of the best vessels for Honkai energy, MANTIS through the genes of Honkai beasts boosting their strength and speed, with the strongest MANTIS like Flame-Chasers reaching Herrscher levels, with the latter also having Honkai energy inside their bodies.
It's also possible to absorb Honkai energy, something noted to be possible for every Valkyrie, to strengthen both the physique and abilities in the process. Fueling more Honkai
energy causes enhanced resistances to be bypassed, and also increased the potency of the matter manipulation from atomic to sub-atomic. Additionally, Swara, the Edge of Taixuan, is able to not only strengthen the body but also launch attacks and work by fueling more Honkai energy.
Honkai energy also improves battlesuits and melee weapons such as swords, which also empower the wielder in the process, or firearms such as pistols.Impairment：
The reverse of the above is also true, with several showings of users losing their strength, speed, failing to use their powers and even death.
To begin, there is an anti-Honkai serum, which is capable of deactivating Honkai energy, this serum was able to weaken a Honkai beast, resulting in its inability to control Honkai energy, which caused its death. Valkyries have also lost their ability to wield Honkai, and were reduced to human levels of strength.[6] Zombies went into a state of panic and rampage and even lost consciousness. Losing or having less Honkai energy causes the user to get slower, affecting both their travel, reaction, and attack speed, while lack of Honkai energy causes powers to fail.
Another feat to support Star of Eden's rating, it also destroyed the Theather of Domination, a higher-dimensional realm.
Herrschers can manipulate Higher-dimensions.
Scaling:
We have a very direct higher-D feat performed by Welt in his fight against Ryusuke, a higher-dimensional being who could easily destroy the lower-dimensional realms and be unaffected by anything from them, with the lower-dimension being powerless against him, Welt had to go above any 3-D to defeat him, and in the end we see that Welt destroyed the realm and killed him.
Our tiering faq and system says: “Furthermore, higher-dimensional entities can also qualify for higher tiers when the verse which they are from explicitly defines them as being infinitely above lower-dimensional ones in power and/or existential status.”
And despite the new standards, this is still valid.
Ryusuke qualifies since his power is that way because of his higher dimensionality compared to 3-dimensions, Star of Eden will have its AP scaled to it for having not only destroyed and killed Ryusuke, but gravity itself is a higher-dimensional force in the verse, as Welt claimed space was born from it, which is supported by 11-D supergravity existing at low energies.
More support for HE being smurf:
Honkai energy supports the Sea of Quanta/Ether Archor, both being 11-D, and has a connection with it. Honkai energy in the Sea of Quanta was also able to corrode and destroy the Ether Anchor
People draw energy from Sea. Honkai's source is higher-dimensional. You need to have Honkai resistance to withstand the Sea, and resistance is what allows the manipulation of Honkai. Honkai energy can also BFR people to there.
Honkai energy has High 1-C potency and range as it can destroy and support 11-D stuff, as well as sending things to there, people can draw and resist Honkai energy from the same place.
At very least we can upgrade the AP to Low-2C via Star of Eden's feat and Hax to 11-D. Although, this is kinda of a weird spot, given Honkai energy is an UES, physicals would end up scaling to it
Anyways, conclusion: all character who scales on par with Pathstriders and Emanators, especially Aeons should have their tiering upgraded to High 1-C via scaling off Imaginary energy, which is directly derived from the Imaginary tree. Talking about the Star of Eden, it will scale to 2 characters, and with that, some high-tiers will scale as well, but first, what is the Star of Eden? this weapon is a divine key, forged using the core of the 9th Herrscher as its power source, since we know that the Star of Eden's power source comes from the core of the 9th Herrscher, we can scale its AP to the respective Herrscher, Kevin defeated this Herrscher by himself, HoT Mei with Durandal's help also defeated Herrscher of Rimestar, who not only had the 9th Core, but also another one (They were fused), we can even see Mei holding the cores after the fight. I should also note that divine keys cannot harness the same power as Herrschers, while Herrschers are so able to do the same as their respective divine keys, there shouldn't be any doubts about the scaling. Welt still has the Star of Eden in Star Rail.
Credits to @Shiroiyo for helping me out with this CRT
Agree: Catzlaflame, DarkDragonMedeus, Planck69 {3}
Disagree:
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