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Honkai Impact 3rd

Avengershows said:
Oh yeah how much stronger would Kekvin be than Might of An Utu Siegfried
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Vaguely much stronger is the best we have I suppose for now

But if they go with the KE low end for Siegfried and accept Kevin's feat

Then Kevin's attack is almost twice as strong with just the cleaver of shamash then he amps himself higher with Might of An Utu by 3x
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Vaguely much stronger is the best we have I suppose for now

But if they go with the KE low end for Siegfried and accept Kevin's feat

Then Kevin's attack is almost twice as strong with just the cleaver of shamash then he amps himself higher with Might of An Utu by 3x
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So Kekvin should be multi-continental based off of the KE calcs (im p sure most end in multi continental)
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
If i recall correctly isn't Durandal give or take 1/100th Might of An Utu Kevin due to to her fight with Chibi Kevin
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Well, It was 2 years ago before she empowered with Seed of Sumeru, we don't know how strong of her now but from chapter 18 and 19, I feels like she is evenly comparable to Mei.
 
Stocking.exe said:
Well, It was 2 years ago before she empowered with Seed of Sumeru, we don't know how strong of her now but from chapter 18 and 19, I feels like she is evenly comparable to Mei.
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So shes kinda a big question mark on her scaling relative to a restricted kevin then

But I forgot about that detail so that means its not a absurd outlier if Durandal is in the ball park of Mei and HOV Kiana
 
Stocking.exe said:
Btw I've made some draft for Hua while waiting for revision.
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I think you should separated HoS with Hua, they are clearly 2 different beings
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
So shes kinda a big question mark on her scaling relative to a restricted kevin then

But I forgot about that detail so that means its not a absurd outlier if Durandal is in the ball park of Mei and HOV Kiana
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But Kevin is like, way above HoV Kiana and HoT Mei
 
I want to help with the scaling, but I need to check: When HoS fought Kevin, did he use the normal Shamash or the Might of An-Utu?
 
I calced the shockwave from Meteoric Salvation and its country level+

I might try angsizing off of the moon we see in the video to see how far up kiana flew as well
I think it can be decent my only worry about the speed of the take off is the possibility of cinematic time

Ok I calculated Kiana's distance traveled off her distance to the moon and its inconsistent
The math says Kiana is only 2888.8km away from from the moon meaning she flew over 300 000km upward
This makes no sense since in the next shot we see the earth below her as if she's only a couple dozen above the surface, so its unusable oh well.
But if I just rolled with it and didn't care about inconsistency Kiana's flight speed would be 3% light speed
 
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I saw Durandal's sandbox profile, and am very confused about the whole God thing in her Dea Anchora key. Can anyone help explain?
 
CYCLOHEXANE-2 said:
I saw Durandal's sandbox profile, and am very confused about the whole God thing in her Dea Anchora key. Can anyone help explain?
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You should read the lore about the event regarding to her advanture into the bubble universe, well she practically fused with it to keep it stable so she literally the God of that universe, that is the dumb down explaination
 
Xiaoyou is the sword that appeared in Durandal VN, It is a living sword that can cut the space-time. Her god state is from VN too, she claimed it after the fight with La Nina, the son of god who took control over that universe and later being defeated by Bianka with Xiaoyou full unleashed form.
 
Maybe someone don't know, Durandal isn't her original name, Just Bianka Ataegina alone. She named herself Durandal after fused with the Xiaoyou(Durandal).
 
I disagreed a little with Stocking.exe's profile for Durandal, so here are my views for her tier and AP.

Tier: At least High 7-A, likely High 6-C, 6-A, possibly far higher with Durandal | At least High 7-A, likely High 6-C | High 6-B, higher with Black Abyss White Flower | 4-A, possibly far higher

Attack Potency: At least Large Mountain level+, likely Large Island level (One-shot Stan, who gave Argent Knight Rita trouble, who can fight Dark Knight Fu Hua with a weaker battlesuit), Continent level, possibly far higher with Durandal (Can erase Europe and its corresponding higher-dimensional structure with it (11-D to be exact)); also bypasses durability with space-time slicing | At least Large Mountain level+, likely Large Island level (Stronger than before) | Large Country level (Can fight Kevin’s ELF, which is 1/100th of Kevin’s true power. Later held her own against the real Kevin, albeit Kevin was not using Shamash. Easily overpowered Striker Fulminata Mei, and is comparable to her Herrscher of Lightning form, having assisted her in defeating Ana. Slightly overwhelmed Su. Said by Otto to be able to deal with the Herrscher of the Void), higher with Black Abyss White Flower (Superior to normal weapons. Can somewhat harm Kevin when used by Su, and easily kill pseudo-Herrschers when used by Cecilia); also bypasses durability with deconstruction | Multi-Solar System level, possibly far higher (Fused with Durandal (the sword). Defeated Roland as La Nina, who has merged with the Ether Anchor, that maintains a bubble universe containing at least a planet, moon, starry sky and 11 dimensions, and whose defeat in turn caused this bubble universe to collapse. La Nina also easily destroyed Durandal (the sword). Subsequently sealed the Ether Anchor within herself, becoming the god of the bubble universe and can tap upon its power. Later became further empowered by the Seed of Sumeru); also bypasses durability with space-time slicing

Key: Without Battlesuit | Valkyrie Gloria | Bright Knight Excelsis | Dea Anchora
 
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Wait, there are something wrong here, Void Drifter is comparable to Agent Knight Artemis - Rita current strongest battlesuit
 
I really still confuse by the whole bubble universe with 11-D make it High 1-C, but the size of those bubble universe is unknown. I still think that bubble universe is just really large pocket dimension with 11 layer barrier
 
CYCLOHEXANE-2 said:
I disagreed a little with Stocking.exe's profile for Durandal, so here are my views for her tier and AP.

Tier: At least 7-A, likely High 6-C | At least 7-A, likely High 6-C | High 6-B, higher with Black Abyss White Flower | 6-A, likely 5-A, possibly far higher

Attack Potency: At least Mountain level, likely Large Island level (One-shot Stan, who gave Argent Knight Rita trouble, who can fight Dark Knight Fu Hua with a weaker battlesuit) | At least Mountain level, likely Large Island level (Stronger than before) | Large Country level (Can fight Kevin’s ELF, which is 1/100th of Kevin’s true power. Later held her own against the real Kevin, albeit Kevin was not using Shamash. Easily overpowered base Mei, and is comparable to her Herrscher of Lightning form, having assisted her in defeating Ana. Slightly overwhelmed Su. Said by Otto to be able to deal with the Herrscher of the Void), higher with Black Abyss White Flower (Superior to normal weapons. Can somewhat harm Kevin when used by Su, and easily kill pseudo-Herrschers when used by Cecilia); also bypasses durability with matter manipulation | Continent level, likely Large Planet level, possibly far higher (Is made by fusing with Durandal, which can erase Europe and its corresponding higher-dimensional structure with it (11-D to be exact). Defeated Roland, who merged herself with the Ether Anchor, that keeps a bubble universe containing at least a planet and moon together, and whose defeat in turn caused this bubble universe to collapse. Subsequently sealed the Ether Anchor within herself, becoming the god of the bubble universe and can tap upon its power. Later became further empowered by the Seed of Sumeru); also bypasses durability with space-time slicing

Key: Without Battlesuit | Valkyrie Gloria | Bright Knight Excelsis | Dea Anchora
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First, She never held against Kev, Just stared at each other, that damn pv got yah.

Black Abyss is not matter manipulation, it is deconstruction.

That was not Roland it was La Nina.

The universe itself also contained with Starry Night Sky which heavily implied by Michelangelo.

And where's that High 6-C come from?
 
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Stocking.exe said:
First, She never held against Kev, Just stared at each other, that damn pv got yah.

Black Abyss is not matter manipulation, it is deconstruction.

That was not Roland it was La Nina.

The universe itself also contained with Starry Night Sky which heavily implied by Michelangelo.

And where's that High 6-C come from?
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1) Wait, the standoff was not canon?

2) Okay.

3) Well, La Nina and Roland are interchangeable, but yeah I should mention this.

4) Do you have the exact scene?

5) Upscaling from Wendy's High-End of 6-C+. No reason when Low-End jumps from Low 7-B to 7-A, High-End should stay as it is.
 
Here and here

High-End or not, We shouldn't upscaling them if the energy didn't literally reached baseline of an upper tier.
 
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CYCLOHEXANE-2 said:
I disagreed a little with Stocking.exe's profile for Durandal, so here are my views for her tier and AP.

Tier: At least 7-A, likely High 6-C, 6-A, possibly far higher with Durandal | At least 7-A, likely High 6-C | High 6-B, higher with Black Abyss White Flower | 4-A, possibly far higher

Attack Potency: At least Mountain level, likely Large Island level (One-shot Stan, who gave Argent Knight Rita trouble, who can fight Dark Knight Fu Hua with a weaker battlesuit), Continent level, possibly far higher with Durandal (Can erase Europe and its corresponding higher-dimensional structure with it (11-D to be exact)) | At least Mountain level, likely Large Island level (Stronger than before) | Large Country level+ (Can fight Kevin’s ELF, which is 1/100th of Kevin’s true power. Later held her own against the real Kevin, albeit Kevin was not using Shamash. Easily overpowered base Mei, and is comparable to her Herrscher of Lightning form, having assisted her in defeating Ana. Slightly overwhelmed Su. Said by Otto to be able to deal with the Herrscher of the Void), higher with Black Abyss White Flower (Superior to normal weapons. Can somewhat harm Kevin when used by Su, and easily kill pseudo-Herrschers when used by Cecilia); also bypasses durability with deconstruction | Multi-Solar System level, possibly far higher (Is made by fusing with Durandal. Defeated Roland as La Nina, who has merged with the Ether Anchor, that maintains a bubble universe containing at least a planet, moon and starry sky, and whose defeat in turn caused this bubble universe to collapse. La Nina also easily destroyed Durandal as a sword. Subsequently sealed the Ether Anchor within herself, becoming the god of the bubble universe and can tap upon its power. Later became further empowered by the Seed of Sumeru); also bypasses durability with space-time slicing

Key: Without Battlesuit | Valkyrie Gloria | Bright Knight Excelsis | Dea Anchora
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I agree with this except for Dea Anchora, it should be bumped to Galaxy Level because we saw one of the galaxies arms in the world bubble in a cutscene (is that what those dialogue things are called?)
 
In other regards outside of durandal, sad news
Realized my Might of An Utu and Shamash calcs were inflated due to not angsizing the planet diameters after I was told this on my Kiana durability calc by a calc group member
So now Kevin's shamash is Country Level, Siegfrieds feat is Continent Level+ to High 6-A depending on the end picked
So I guess Kevin's feat is fodder now
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
In other regards outside of durandal, sad news
Realized my Might of An Utu and Shamash calcs were inflated due to not angsizing the planet diameters after I was told this on my Kiana durability calc by a calc group member
So now Kevin's shamash is Country Level, Siegfrieds feat is Continent Level+ to High 6-A depending on the end picked
So I guess Kevin's feat is fodder now
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Well at least Kiana might be solidified at at least country level+ and Sieg is. Well yeah.

As for Kekvin eh, disappointing but not surprised.

Also, I think you might be able to calc the destruction of Mu depending on how the black holes work (i.e. Its not a real black hole so the person has to literally create enough force to pull so hard light cant escape (which would also mean everything that comes inside is atomized)) so you might be able to scale off of that?
 
Avengershows said:
Well at least Kiana might be solidified at at least country level+ and Sieg is. Well yeah.

As for Kekvin eh, disappointing but not surprised.

Also, I think you might be able to calc the destruction of Mu depending on how the black holes work (i.e. Its not a real black hole so the person has to literally create enough force to pull so hard light cant escape (which would also mean everything that comes inside is atomized)) so you might be able to scale off of that?
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Yea that’s true she would instead of being at least or likely 6-C
She’d just be flat out 6-B so that’s good

Calculating the destruction of Mu via pseudo black hole would be extremely difficult things
Even if I assume Mu is the size of Australia or Zealandia(before that got submerged) since that’s the smallest continent
The most we know is that it was completely erased as in down to the sea floor(average 3km deep) there was little remnants of it
I’ll do some research to see if it’s possible to quantify
Shame it’s not just a simple big boom tho since destroying a continent to that extreme of an extent would be easy to do math for and get good results
 
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