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So I made this thread betwee Hiraga Saito and Bell Cranel.
It was all well and good until Saito's stats are put into question after Repp rewatched his fight with the golem and the rechecking of the source material for whether or not the scene was actually there.
Anyways, here's what I found.
Golem punch:
The golem's fist smashed onto the place Saito stood on. Just in the nick of time, Saito jumped and evaded the blow. The golem removed its fist from the ground and a crater a meter wide was formed.
Saito is apparently physically stronger than he lets on.
Saito's strength with no Gandalfr:
The golem moved and threw a punch. In mid-flight the fist morphed into steel.
Saito saw this, and parried the attack with his sword.
Pang! The sword broke from the hilt upon impact.
Saito was stunned. Was this sword really made by the famous Germanian Alchemist Lord Shupei? It's totally useless!
This is the sword he got from Kirche which was apparently made (or coated or mixed) of gold, was too long for its short handle, hence the weight was off. Still, Saito was able to parry the golem's fist.
Saito's speed without Gandalfr:
"Mr. Agile Familiar, please drop your broken sword too. You're a threat to me if you're holding a weapon." - Fouquet the Crumbling Dirt
Apparently, he's physically fit even without the Gandalfr to be complimented by someone with quite a bit of experience considering she robs nobles a lot and should therefore be faced with opposing parties like muggle knights or something.
Attack Potency (in base): Likely Wall level (?)
Speed (in base): Athletic Human or/to Peak Human (Considered by Fouquet, an experienced mage in combat to be agile)
Saito vs Wardes:
Saito leapt forward like a bullet and released a brand new assault.
"In other words, you are unable to protect Louise." For the first time, Wardes entered combat stance, with a speed impossible for a normal person to track, launched an attack on Saito. Just as the boy realized what was going on, he took the full attack head on.
- - - -
Bam, suddenly the winds rushed together, creating an invisible force that slammed into Saito with the strength of a hammer, knocking him a good 10 meters away and into a pile of beer barrels, smashing all of them as he crashed down.
Saito took a wind hammer faster than he can react. He lost his sword in the process but was still good enough to grab it had it not been for Wardes stepping on it and aiming the swordwand at his neck, thus ending the duel. Saito walked away depressed afterward.
Dunno how high durability that is but I'd reckon, not that high.
Durability: (?)
Saito with Gandalfr:
"Lightning Cloud"
"It is regrettable… That your life will be taken by this hand…"
If even Saito's arm was scorched by this blitz spell, there was no chance of survival if she was hit by it directly.
From shock her breath was rough and her whole body was in pain. Louise, scared like a child, cried ―
"Saito! Help!"
At that moment, Wardes finished the spell and lowered his cane, aiming towards Louise and...
The wall of the chapel collapsed with a roaring sound, and a strong gust of wind blew in from the outside.
"Damn you…"ÒÇÇ
Wardes muttered.
After breaking the wall, Saito jumped in with Derflinger in his hand and stopped Wardes' cane.
Saito smashed through the chapel wall and blocked Wardes' attack.
Yada yada yada... Derf reveals himself to be a magic-sucking blade and Saito got a boost from Gandalfr once more, this time able to fight Wardes' wind clones 3 at the same time.
Attack Potency: At least Wall level (Broke through the wall and caused a gust)
Nothing special.
Saito vs 70,000:
Four hundred meters in front of them, they could see Albion's forward assault force.
Suddenly his body began to move by itself; they would never know if this was the power of Gand├ílfr, or Saito's own bravery, or something else…
Saito charged toward the army of 70,000.
Saito vs 70,000: The only thing the fallen cavalry men could do was hear the sound of the enemy's footsteps, the speed was so great that they could not even see their foe's image.
Speed: Subsonic+ (Weaved through an entire army, dodging spells, arrows and swords alike)
Saito vs 70,000: Although so many bolts should have been fatal, the wind-like warrior never slowed.
Stamina: Greatly SuperHuman (Fought through an entire army and managed to continue doing so as his body gets pelted by magic and crossbow bolts)
I'll look for more but this is it at the moment.
I'm at the Jormungand arc currently, which is the whole supergolems with deflector shields.
It was all well and good until Saito's stats are put into question after Repp rewatched his fight with the golem and the rechecking of the source material for whether or not the scene was actually there.
Anyways, here's what I found.
Golem punch:
The golem's fist smashed onto the place Saito stood on. Just in the nick of time, Saito jumped and evaded the blow. The golem removed its fist from the ground and a crater a meter wide was formed.
Saito is apparently physically stronger than he lets on.
Saito's strength with no Gandalfr:
The golem moved and threw a punch. In mid-flight the fist morphed into steel.
Saito saw this, and parried the attack with his sword.
Pang! The sword broke from the hilt upon impact.
Saito was stunned. Was this sword really made by the famous Germanian Alchemist Lord Shupei? It's totally useless!
This is the sword he got from Kirche which was apparently made (or coated or mixed) of gold, was too long for its short handle, hence the weight was off. Still, Saito was able to parry the golem's fist.
Saito's speed without Gandalfr:
"Mr. Agile Familiar, please drop your broken sword too. You're a threat to me if you're holding a weapon." - Fouquet the Crumbling Dirt
Apparently, he's physically fit even without the Gandalfr to be complimented by someone with quite a bit of experience considering she robs nobles a lot and should therefore be faced with opposing parties like muggle knights or something.
Attack Potency (in base): Likely Wall level (?)
Speed (in base): Athletic Human or/to Peak Human (Considered by Fouquet, an experienced mage in combat to be agile)
Saito vs Wardes:
Saito leapt forward like a bullet and released a brand new assault.
"In other words, you are unable to protect Louise." For the first time, Wardes entered combat stance, with a speed impossible for a normal person to track, launched an attack on Saito. Just as the boy realized what was going on, he took the full attack head on.
- - - -
Bam, suddenly the winds rushed together, creating an invisible force that slammed into Saito with the strength of a hammer, knocking him a good 10 meters away and into a pile of beer barrels, smashing all of them as he crashed down.
Saito took a wind hammer faster than he can react. He lost his sword in the process but was still good enough to grab it had it not been for Wardes stepping on it and aiming the swordwand at his neck, thus ending the duel. Saito walked away depressed afterward.
Dunno how high durability that is but I'd reckon, not that high.
Durability: (?)
Saito with Gandalfr:
"Lightning Cloud"
"It is regrettable… That your life will be taken by this hand…"
If even Saito's arm was scorched by this blitz spell, there was no chance of survival if she was hit by it directly.
From shock her breath was rough and her whole body was in pain. Louise, scared like a child, cried ―
"Saito! Help!"
At that moment, Wardes finished the spell and lowered his cane, aiming towards Louise and...
The wall of the chapel collapsed with a roaring sound, and a strong gust of wind blew in from the outside.
"Damn you…"ÒÇÇ
Wardes muttered.
After breaking the wall, Saito jumped in with Derflinger in his hand and stopped Wardes' cane.
Saito smashed through the chapel wall and blocked Wardes' attack.
Yada yada yada... Derf reveals himself to be a magic-sucking blade and Saito got a boost from Gandalfr once more, this time able to fight Wardes' wind clones 3 at the same time.
Attack Potency: At least Wall level (Broke through the wall and caused a gust)
Nothing special.
Saito vs 70,000:
Four hundred meters in front of them, they could see Albion's forward assault force.
Suddenly his body began to move by itself; they would never know if this was the power of Gand├ílfr, or Saito's own bravery, or something else…
Saito charged toward the army of 70,000.
Saito vs 70,000: The only thing the fallen cavalry men could do was hear the sound of the enemy's footsteps, the speed was so great that they could not even see their foe's image.
Speed: Subsonic+ (Weaved through an entire army, dodging spells, arrows and swords alike)
Saito vs 70,000: Although so many bolts should have been fatal, the wind-like warrior never slowed.
Stamina: Greatly SuperHuman (Fought through an entire army and managed to continue doing so as his body gets pelted by magic and crossbow bolts)
I'll look for more but this is it at the moment.
I'm at the Jormungand arc currently, which is the whole supergolems with deflector shields.
