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High-Universal Black Clover

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My point is, if we allowed Yhwach to be a universal tier via destruction, I don't see anything wrong with this situation.
Is that the only even remotely universal feat in the verse? It was also preformed by arguably the 2nd or 3rd strongest character in the entire series.

This feat is the only feat of this level and is not preformed by a god tier, given essentially every other feat is tier 6 of below besides 2 tier 5 feats and a very vague possible tier 3 statement it simply seems to inconsistent to use this alone to scale 60% of the verse to High 3-A
 
Much more concrete and the context is less vague for Yhwach, not to mention but its what Yhwach wanted the entire time and is implied the power of the SK is on that level too. Dorothy here has almost no basis for her scaling
That is the only feat that scales him to the universal tier, if we did not include that, he is at max Solar System level
 
LMAOOOO SHE DID THIS IN COMBAT (i just saw infinite and sent it lol)




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Yeah this is just going to be who can win in an argument. Im just going to watch, this is going to be fun lol
Water expanding infinitely ≠ the water is infinite in size nor the glamour world being infinite in size also
 
Apparently yami destroying the glamour world is a high 3-A feat and everyone that scales to or above yami or Dorothy gets 3-A ap
Wait is that the Yami feat where it cuts it in half? Someone mentioned thats an Anime only feat, is that true?
 
That is the only feat that scales him to the universal tier, if we did not include that, he is at max Solar System level
Not even what I'm trying to say. I'm saying Yhwach's uni scaling actually has multiple concrete evidence backing it up. Dorothy has statements and nothing else.
 
Water expanding infinitely ≠ the water is infinite in size nor the glamour world being infinite in size also
Is it not the concept of the infinite/infinitely itself the same? We were talking about the sensory of the person.
 
Also destroying the glamour world is just spatial manipulation or limited space-time manipulation. I don't see why it should give anyone 3-A ap
 
But people refuted that? I haven't seen you counter the refutations. Unless if I missed your response.
I alr refuted it, scroll back
Your argument does not work bro Imma tell you rn. klo brought this up but DMC characters have this same feat of cutting universes and get scales to it.
If they cut it with actual AP and not sheer hax than it’s valid. I have no idea why you’re mentioning it however
 
Let's just delete the verse and call it a day.


Okay relax, y'all doing too much

Yami destroying the glamour world with dimension slash is not 3-A AP just an interdimensional range

Both sides of the argument are valid and all of this can be solved by just giving her a High 3-A creation which isn't her destructive capabilities, that will make everyone happy. Hopefully.
 
This upgrade ain't going through. It doesn't matter what anyone wants. The wiki gonna die if we got Asta beating any Goku before Super.
 
Im not about to go and explain everything for Yhwachs scaling bro. The entire point of yhwach is to merge the worlds and absorbs power from SK who holds them together. Dorothy doesn't have anything as in depth as Yhwachs scaling
My point is that he got a universal tier via Environmental destruction and nothing else. His durability is not even a universal level.
 
You want a proper text-book feat of splitting the universe?

Pluto from DMC splitting the OG Demon World into two because the newly-arrived humanity was throwing the entire realm full of even-more powerful demons into jeopardy

And then Sparda re-splitting the Demon World again after Mundus fused the two back.
 
Ah so the anime is officially accepted as canon?
I wouldn't say, that the ENTIRE anime is canon, per say. But the episodes that took place between Asta meeting Lolopechka, and the end of the 6 month timeskip are. As Tabata and his team worked with the anime staff to create that story. And many of the happenings in those episodes appeared in the manga.
 
If they cut it with actual AP and not sheer hax than it’s valid. I have no idea why you’re mentioning it however
No? Hax can connect to one's ap especially when its based on spatial attacks, You understand we give people ratings based off of them effect large portions of universes right?
 
So what's the "votes" here. I'm currently neutral, leaning towards agree. Unless we counting the outlier argument. Then I disagree.
 
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