High 6-C MCU

[ArkhamDC06]

I don't agree with waiting for Love and Thunder because they're already establishing a clear new realm of power with this movie so anything from the past wouldn't scale

Mmh fair point, we can directly make stuff for that then

 

[KLOL506]

Hmmmm.... Kinda seems like some small moon/ asteroid fuckery going on here which I hope is not the case

I can assure you KE will wank that to ungodly levels if you can find the crust mass. That or you can use the normal ground-based boom and it'd still be deep into Tier 6 depending on whether the finished product is large enough to make a difference.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Small Town level. 1.25 kilotons after accounting for cross-sectional area and distance from the boom.

Poggers

 

[Dalesean027]

Ah. I see.

Final results may still vary depending on what the final size of the planet is. I used Pluto as a placeholder.

That works tbh I doubt it's any smaller unless we rely qant to keep lowballing it a ton

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I'd say we can leave Pre Awakening Thor guys at just "High 6-C".

Awakened Thor level characters go to "At least High 6-C, likely higher" or something like that so to help differentiate

What about Ragnarok Thor Pre-Awakening and Post-Training Hulk?

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Tbf we'll have to wait for the moon scene itself to see the real result obviously

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I'd say Love and Thunder would act as support. But that also decimates the Surtur death cap which is highly problematic.

I'm pretty sure Thor gets stronger in the movie tho

 

[Hellbeast]

It's definitely into Tier 6 for sure is what I can say just by looking at it, we just need the size for KE later, which might forego the need of a curvature calc to begin with.

True

And I've said it before, I doubt the Love and Thunder will upgrade any of the pre awakening Thor to awakened Thor level characters. Those will likely end up as their own keys from the looks of the trailers.

Yeah we've already known this Thor is >> his past selves and Valkyrie seems to get Zeus' thunderbolt

I'd say we can leave Pre Awakening Thor guys at just "High 6-C".

Awakened Thor level characters go to "At least High 6-C, likely higher" or something like that so to help differentiate

TBH you could argue Low 6-B for the Phase 3/4 types thanks to the Bifrost feat

What about Pre-Awakening Ragnarok Thor and Post-Training Hulk?

Prolly just stay at High 6-C. Not a huge fan of Hulk backscaling the way he does based off showings but this at least isn't insanely far off

 

[Dalesean027]

Can't wait for high 6-C Ned

 

[ArkhamDC06]

Probably "At least High 6-C"

I guess it can work, Hulk is much stronger at this point so Thor should scale

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Prolly just stay at High 6-C. Not a huge fan of Hulk backscaling the way he does based off showings but this at least isn't insanely far off

If High 6-C goes through, then Post-Training Hulk would no longer backscale to High 7-A from 6-C

sheeeee

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

TBH you could argue Low 6-B for the Phase 3/4 types thanks to the Bifrost feat

I forgot about that 10x multiplier oof. I thought we were gonna discard it?

TBH, if we don't use the multiplier, then we don't have reason to keep the Raganarok keys of Thor and Hulk. They were only there because to make up for the gap between the 7-As and 6-Cs, but now that the gap is gona and everyone scales to High 6-C, there's no reason to keep it.

 

[Hellbeast]

If High 6-C goes through, then it would no longer be backscaling

sheeeee

That's my point, he'd mostly just be as is yk? Not sure how Thanos tiers go tho

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

What about Ragnarok Thor Pre-Awakening and Post-Training Hulk?

I've never been a fan of those keys, but those would either be "High 6-C" or "At least High 6-C"

 

[Shmeatywerbenmanjenson]

Just wait the few weeks bros..........

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I'm assuming those extra Thor and Hulk keys aren't gonna be necessary if this goes through?

 

[Hellbeast]

I forgot about that 10x multiplier oof. I thought we were gonna discard it?

TBH, if we don't use the multiplier, then we don't have reason to keep the Raganarok keys of Thor and Hulk. They were only there because to make up for the gap between the 7-As and 6-Cs, but now that the gap is gona and everyone scales to High 6-C, there's no reason to keep it.

1) Not that I'm aware of but it is mad consistent with the statements about the Eternals who we know for an absolute fact are Low 6-B outright which is fun 2) Makes sense, it's really just them staying about where they are normally

Just wait the few weeks bros..........

Upgrade town

I'm assuming those extra Thor and Hulk keys aren't gonna be necessary if this goes through?

Aye

 

[KLOL506]

I forgot about that 10x multiplier oof. I thought we were gonna discard it?

Oh definitely, we already argued it was bunk that just because Thor smacked into the bridge 10 times doesn't mean he was giving it his all, because he was clearly paining from the fact that he'd never be able to see Jane again. All the power was focused into the final hit, which makes the previous 9 hits mean ****-all in the long run.

TBH, if we don't use the multiplier, then we don't have reason to keep the Raganarok keys of Thor and Hulk. They were only there because to make up for the gap between the 7-As and 6-Cs, but now that the gap is gona and everyone scales to High 6-C, there's no reason to keep it.

That and the multiplier is assumption based with shaky assumptions to begin with.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

We can now ******* pit the MCU against the semi herald tiers holy shit.

 

[Kilgorethecouch]

It’s 3:30 Am where I’m at, and I just found this, I can’t wait to wake up at 6 PM tomorrow.

 

[Hellbeast]

Oh definitely, we already argued it was bunk that just because Thor smacked into the bridge 10 times doesn't mean he was giving it his all, because he was clearly paining from the fact that he'd never be able to see Jane again. All the power was focused into the final hit, which makes the previous 9 hits mean ****-all in the long run.


That and the multiplier is assumption based with shaky assumptions to begin with.

So I guess just a higher High 6-C works? Would we even need the At Least?

 

[KLOL506]

True

You know it's ******* funny when we argued that the vibranium being cracked is the main real feat of Thor which easily tanked the energy of Thor slamming it in conjunction with Tony (FRIDAY stated that if it was just Thor alone, he'd only crack the spire and the impact would still be devastating) which proved outlier-ish but now that we have people like Gorr and the Eternals ******* popping up, 6-C Thanos is now like a turd in the wind.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

So I guess just a higher High 6-C works? Would we even need the At Least?

I think the At least is needed for Awakening tier characters cuz there's a clear huge upscale

 

[KLOL506]

I think the At least is needed cuz there's a clear huge upscale

Works for Thanos until Gorr pops up.

 

[Hellbeast]

You know it's ******* funny when we argued that the vibranium being cracked is the main real feat of Thor which proved outlier-ish but now that we have people like Gorr and the Eternals ******* popping up, 6-C Thanos is now like a turd in the wind.

Basically lmao. We could just write off the Thanos stuff as being Gamma Radiation and shit also this just makes me wanna make the DCEU High 6-C for fun

 

[Hellbeast]

I think the At least is needed for Awakening tier characters cuz there's a clear huge upscale

Eh idk if there is tbh, multiplier is bunk apparently so they'd just be > 150 Gigatons which isn't that far into High 6-C. I think a possibly Higher could work for Thanos and co tho

 

[KLOL506]

Basically lmao. We could just write off the Thanos stuff as being Gamma Radiation and shit also this just makes me wanna make the DCEU High 6-C for fun

Remember, the spire literally survived Iron Man + Thor combo because of the atomic action doubling BS, whereas with just Thor alone it'd just crack the spire, which still means something.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

You know it's ******* funny when we argued that the vibranium being cracked is the main real feat of Thor which easily tanked the energy of Thor slamming it in conjunction with Tony (FRIDAY stated that if it was just Thor alone, he'd only crack the spire and the impact would still be devastating) which proved outlier-ish but now that we have people like Gorr and the Eternals ******* popping up, 6-C Thanos is now like a turd in the wind.

Tfw the snap's energy is the weakest tier 6 feat in the MCU

 

[Popted2]

yo Marvel future fight gamer goood job

 

[KLOL506]

Tfw the snap's energy is the weakest tier 6 feat in the MCU

******* L for Thanos.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

******* L for Thanos.

LITERALLY EXACTLY BASELINE

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Basically lmao. We could just write off the Thanos stuff as being Gamma Radiation and shit also this just makes me wanna make the DCEU High 6-C for fun

Bro I WISH they were still High 6-C so we could have the matchups

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

LITERALLY EXACTLY BASELINE

Not exactly. His feat is At least 5.8 Gigatons. Baseline 6-C is 4.3 Gigatons

 

[KLOL506]

I wonder what Spino, Qawsedf and Krukov have to say on this. Qaws was the one who brought up the guidebook for Tony after all.

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Not exactly. His feat is At least 5.8 Gigatons. Baseline 6-C is 4.3 Gigatons

That is basically exactly baseline. That 1 gigaton difference is nothing

 

[Propellus]

Not exactly. His feat is At least 5.8 Gigatons. Baseline 6-C is 4.3 Gigatons

Still slightly above baseline tho

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Still slightly above baseline tho

Not even remotely enough for it to matter

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Point is, it's on the cutting edge of baseline

 

[KLOL506]

Point is, it's on the cutting edge of baseline

End of the day, matters not

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I wonder what Qawsedf and Krukov have to say on this. Qaws was the one who brought up the guidebook for Tony after all.

I'd wait for them to throw their coin in. But my stance remains. To summarise:

We have no reason to not use High 6-C if the calc is legit. Every other lower feats we have is done either casually (Thor smashing that ice mountain) or just a lowball (Thanos' snap).

We shouldn't wait for Love and Thunder. The new feats likely do not scale to the Thanos tiers and it'll all likely be a new tier just for the love and thunder characters. If anything, as indicated with Thor training, he'll likely grow stronger than before. We'd just be wasting our time.

To make the tiers more distinct. Pre Awakening Thor level characters simply get "High 6-C", while Awakened Thor level characters should just get "At least High 6-C"

Mark 45 Iron Man also becomes Low 7-C. This wouldn't be problematic as no one scales to Mark 45 Iron Man