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This post basically poses two questions. Is perceiving an infinite multiverse as fiction justification for High 2-A, and is being superior to an infinite multiverse justification for High 2-A?
Tiering System says: High Multiverse level+: Characters who are 5-dimensional, and/or can destroy and/or create 5-dimensional space-time constructs of a not insignificant size. Characters who can destroy and/or create an uncountably infinite numbers of universes may potentially also be assigned this tier, as their geometrical 5-D size can be higher than 0.
I've seen quite a handful of High 2-As described as having that rating due to seeing an infinite multiverse as fiction. I'd argue that seeing something as fiction is not a feat of AP, but a feat of haxx. There are some characters here who by their metafictional nature see their reality as fiction, and can plot manip as if it were such, but aren't considered higher-dimensional entities because of this.
Onto the broader topic of profiles that are High 2-A based o being superior to infinite universes. My problem with these is that in order for a series of 4-D universes to collectively be 5-Dimensional, there has to be uncountably infinitely many of them, as opposed to countably infinitely many or countably finitely many.
I'm not familiar with many of the verses talked about here, but I doubt that they specify having an uncountably infinite multiverse; they'd likely just say "infinite".
One solution is that since "superior" isn't defined, if we define "superior" as "having a larger cardinality", then all of those beings would be 5-D for being superior, but the problem with that is that using cardinality, once we hit infinite sets everything is either the same or infinitely larger than anything else. So every 4-D, 5-D, 6-D, etc being would have the exact same AP, but each would be infinitely stronger than the dimension below, but a lot of the verses linked here have 5-D characters beating or being stronger than one another. There would be no above baseline and characters losing/beating others of the same dimensionality would be PIS, which is why I think this is a bad solution.
Note that this isn't an attempt to revise the tiering system. There are still tos of characters who legitimately have High 2-A under the current definition.
tl;dr Since being High 2-A requires uncountably infinite 4-D universes created/destroyed and most verses don't specify that, quite a few characters may need to be downgraded to 2-A.
Tiering System says: High Multiverse level+: Characters who are 5-dimensional, and/or can destroy and/or create 5-dimensional space-time constructs of a not insignificant size. Characters who can destroy and/or create an uncountably infinite numbers of universes may potentially also be assigned this tier, as their geometrical 5-D size can be higher than 0.
I've seen quite a handful of High 2-As described as having that rating due to seeing an infinite multiverse as fiction. I'd argue that seeing something as fiction is not a feat of AP, but a feat of haxx. There are some characters here who by their metafictional nature see their reality as fiction, and can plot manip as if it were such, but aren't considered higher-dimensional entities because of this.
Onto the broader topic of profiles that are High 2-A based o being superior to infinite universes. My problem with these is that in order for a series of 4-D universes to collectively be 5-Dimensional, there has to be uncountably infinitely many of them, as opposed to countably infinitely many or countably finitely many.
I'm not familiar with many of the verses talked about here, but I doubt that they specify having an uncountably infinite multiverse; they'd likely just say "infinite".
One solution is that since "superior" isn't defined, if we define "superior" as "having a larger cardinality", then all of those beings would be 5-D for being superior, but the problem with that is that using cardinality, once we hit infinite sets everything is either the same or infinitely larger than anything else. So every 4-D, 5-D, 6-D, etc being would have the exact same AP, but each would be infinitely stronger than the dimension below, but a lot of the verses linked here have 5-D characters beating or being stronger than one another. There would be no above baseline and characters losing/beating others of the same dimensionality would be PIS, which is why I think this is a bad solution.
Note that this isn't an attempt to revise the tiering system. There are still tos of characters who legitimately have High 2-A under the current definition.
tl;dr Since being High 2-A requires uncountably infinite 4-D universes created/destroyed and most verses don't specify that, quite a few characters may need to be downgraded to 2-A.
