All of it is, this semantics battle has been done hundreds of times and there's zero possibility that just a small amount was absorbed. It doesn't make mathematical sense, scaling sense or even just grammatical sense. There is no reason to say this if he's still just a planet buster like was said before for far weaker monsters, but it is said and that's very clearly the intent of the scene.
Except it only works that way. There is no lingering effect to a supernova, it's incredibly fast. There's no reason to make a statement like this if he's just a planet buster like stated many times before for far weaker monsters. There's no reason for him to have been eaten by a black hole and absorbed a supernova's energy (or more as shown in the scene) to explain his evolution, power and abilities if he's just still planetary. A multi-continental dose of energy wouldn't allow this, planet doesn't make sense either.
What? He was a single celled organism at the time when it absorbed energy from a supernova. There's zero implication he completely absorbed the entire thing.
You're assuming he absorbed all of it, rather than absorb energy that hit him. Supernovas are incredibly gigantic and can be deadly from multiple lightyears away.
If anything it was a wormhole since they got their terms wrong. Saying that he emerged from a white hole after entering a black hole which isn't how black holes work.
If the Earth exploded under your feet you would only receive something like 8-B levels of energy due to your surface area vs the planet's surface area. Imagine the enormous size of a star exploding vs a single cell and you have a rough idea of how little energy he would have been exposed to.
Yeah wouldn't this be reasoning for the writers getting terms wrong and it's not actually a scientifically legit black hole? That might just nuke the feat entirely
I'd also note it depends on distance from the explosion, even small distances have a massive impact on the yield taken. That, alongside the surface area conundrum, is going to be a huge reason for it not scaling to the full yield of the supernova.
That's not true, he entered the black hole as a cell, but as we see in the scene he already had a full body and this is pretty consistent when he absorbed the supernova energy.
It's really not; writers being scientifcally or mathematically illiterate is a widespread trope in fiction.
And assuming the highest interpretation makes any more sense?
What? The cell left the white hole as a crystal and then grew larger because it absorbed the energies of a supernova. The cell got bigger because of stellar explosions and was small before that happened.
He can absorb energy in a larger surface area since he would be bathed in it for awhile. But the issue at hand is that SpaceGodzilla was never stated as absorbing the entirety of a supernova, just energies from it.
What? A wormhole is a hypothetical bridge across space time. A black hole is an infinitely dense section of space that consumes everything that enters it's gravity until some unknown limit is reached and it explodes again.
You're right. For some reason I thought the cell clump was just a single cell when it wasn't. Though either way it would be rather small.
Yes it is, there is no proof that the black hole would be inaccurate and so the excuse makes no sense.
They exist because various items in fiction are caed lasers without actually operating like a laser. Not every energy beam is lightspeed, which is why the guidelines exist.
Black Holes don't absorb matter and blow them out through white holes. The visual given is also more or less resembles the structure of a wormhole as well.
No, we literally see the large creature absorbing this energy as by that point it took the shape of its flying form. Yeah it used some of this energy to form itself, but that said we see 7 sets of energy (conveniently colored for the audience) fly into the monster. Once this process was finished "the most horrific monster was born". A mass energy conversion of the body of SpaceGodzilla I can't imagine even reaching Tier 6 and his surface area would be High 6-A but here he is absolutely throttling creatures bare minimum dozens of times 5-B.
Well yes that's true but light itself doesn't meet those requirements nor does radiation of which light is a form of and other forms reach similar velocity.
You would be right. E=MC^2 would give you 6.4710372869051e+25 Joules for its flying form, which is High 6-A.
I don't know about that honestly. The current calc used for Heisei being 5-B doesn't make a lot of sense. It assumes Battra physically overpowered and stopped a planet destroying asteroid very quickly. Rather than just pushing on it hard enough to divert its course to the Earth or destroying it and the fragments over an unknown period of time. After that all that's left is planet destroying statements and upscaling, which is baseline 5-B and above 5-B by unknown amounts.
You're thinking far to binary here. That he either absorbed the entire supernova or what fraction hit him, rather than absorb a larger but undefined area of a supernova that got him to 5-B. Which is more consistent and still lines up with everything
The singularity at the center of one where the volume becomes zero is when it reaches infinity density.
That's still how wormholes work. An object goes and then leaves on the other end. The image from the movie even matches what most scientific displays of what a wormhole looks like. The movie just honestly used the wrong scientific terms here.
What? Light would easily meet our definitions of light. Even without a statement its refraction, speed, and appearance would all line up. Same with radiation.
You're correct. Which is why SpaceGodzilla was sent through a wormhole and not a black hole.
Yeah so that wouldn't make sense.
I'm no doubting that, just that premise of the current calc.
KE only fully scales if its an instant stop. There's no evidence of that, which was my point
Because that's all he could absorb from the explosion
He flew back. A wormhole is travel in the same space not inter-universal space.
Okay, what are your doubts?
Not really. Lets use a calc for another universe as an example. You only scale to the full KE if you instantly stop it or cancel the momentum. Changing its direction, fragmenting it or slowing it are all very valid interpretations that have nothing to do with scaling to the meteor's full KE.
How it pushing it over an unknown time and having it miss Earth far fetched? Or breaking it apart and destroying the small pieces of it?
Sure, SpaceGodzilla having solid travel speed isn't that far fetched.
The Invincible calc fits in pretty well with the feats he performs so I don't see how this wouldn't apply to Mark. Changing its direction would require matching the KE and then moving the rock, fragmenting it would require RKE at the very least which tends to be higher than the KE and slowing it while wouldn't take as much would still be impressive as again no air or obstacles to create drag.
No you don't. Its just F = mΔv/t. As long as Mothra applies a constant amount of force over a period of time it will eventually stop or change direction. You only need to overcome it if you instantly stop it. As a prime example Mothrea could move the meteor with 5 newtons of forcel it would just take 17,917,100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 5.68 years
That's all we have proof of. Since he does not have any amount of evidence of absorbing the full energy of a supernova.
Only because of the assumption in the calc. Instead of just using a baseline 5-B assumption, an end was chosen with a rogue planet that has 60% of the Earth's mass. Which contradicts what we're given since the meteor isn't round in the movie.
Which is illogical and has no evidence. The fact Battra was going to stop it much later and with a single attack
