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Hal Jordan vs Hades
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The Ring will passively put up a field to block all of Hades' attacks, and Hal would seal him inside a construct to bind him or BFR him outside space and time
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How?
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it doesn't look like Hal resists any of Hades' passives
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how fast is Hal?
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First thing first, which era of Hal is being used here? Cause their speed ratings differ. And also should specify keys and shit.
Speed values;
Pre crisis; 2 Thousand c to 14.9 Thousand c (honestly no clue wtf it even means lmao)
Post crisis and New 52; 87.6 quadrillion times faster than light
Anyway, don't think HAL can do anything here, even if the speed is equalised.
Op, consider this a minor warning, but don't make anymore stomp matches. This is the third or fourth one you made this week.
Speed values;
Pre crisis; 2 Thousand c to 14.9 Thousand c (honestly no clue wtf it even means lmao)
Post crisis and New 52; 87.6 quadrillion times faster than light
Anyway, don't think HAL can do anything here, even if the speed is equalised.
Op, consider this a minor warning, but don't make anymore stomp matches. This is the third or fourth one you made this week.
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He can create a forcefield to block everything Hades has and just seal him with superior LS since it is unfathomably greater than John Stewart's
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Bruh can you not see Abstract Existence on Hades file? And that Regen? And those immortalities? Also remind me how Hal can tank his soul hax? Void hax? Bfr to void? Or fare manipulation? Or most of his hax.
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There are more win cons for Hal:
He is able to make chainsaws that can cut through Amazo who isn't pierced by a bloodlusted Superman's heat vision, which can pierce through things on a subatomic level
His energy blasts can be as hot as the sun
Fate Manipulation is something he's stated to be capable of doing, he never uses it in a fight. Same for Soul Manipulation, Hades doesn't even use it. He can't regenerate from being sealed inside a construct dude, he gets squished. The BFR is countered by dimensional travel and is something Hal can and is willing to do in character, even when not bloodlusted.
He is able to make chainsaws that can cut through Amazo who isn't pierced by a bloodlusted Superman's heat vision, which can pierce through things on a subatomic level
His energy blasts can be as hot as the sun
Abstract existence for him comes from existing so long as a concept exists. Not literally non physical, just type 8 immortality. Hal can interact with Parallax, who has AE.
Fate Manipulation is something he's stated to be capable of doing, he never uses it in a fight. Same for Soul Manipulation, Hades doesn't even use it. He can't regenerate from being sealed inside a construct dude, he gets squished. The BFR is countered by dimensional travel and is something Hal can and is willing to do in character, even when not bloodlusted.
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Actually, it’s used in every attack
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Well idk how fast Hal is, cos he’s got 2 2c keys
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Man, they could have specified in the profile. Can he bypass forcefields and armour?
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Is the force field on as soon as the battle begins?
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No, but he will activate it. The aura acts as a forcefield though, its just weaker, but is on as soon as the battle begins
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Gods in ss use fate manip in order to win, the problem is when the enemy creates miracles that bypass fate, via being miraculous. So he should be using his fate manip
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Scans?
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Alr. Then he gets passively paralyzed when it starts, since thats active as long as hades is around
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Range?
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Literally none of this is useful in here.
And that interaction is different. He didn't Interact with AE parallax.
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I’ll prob be able to find them by tomarrow. I don’t have the source material on me
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Scaling from Poseidon, it should be like, around the size of a large room
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Why is it not AE parallax? Hades still isn't actually non physical abstract though, and how is that not useful in a fight. He can survive subatomic attacks, but not things that pierce you on a more fundamental level. Also no resistance to heat of Hal's level
Might not work on Hal then, and if it does, can it just phase past forcefields?
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idk
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Additionally, the paralysis comes with perception manip/sense manip, by shutting down 6 senses, mind manip that causes fear, and forces them to obey his command, life force draining, and stat reduction. That’s why I think it’s a stomp, cos most these passives are incap or eventual death stuff
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Parallax's true form is AE, yes, but the one we usually see, not so much. Its just incorpreal at best. There is a big difference.
And again, HAL can't do anything here. Hades negs with ease.
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Not a wincon, as one, hades has regen/resurrection, and two, resists matter manip on a level below quarks
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Highest ls key for Hal is Multi stellar, for scaling to Galaxies. But hades is also multi stellar, for scaling above lifting the portion of the sky visible from earth.
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I still heavily doubt hades is faster than him with no proof.
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Hal still has NPI on profile which is needed to counter AE.
This.
From the beginning I knew hal had no chance looking at hades profile he would even stomp nekron.
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No that is practically baseline. You need an insane level of NPI to interact with abstracts.
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Its a stomp if Hal starts close range. He could scan him from very far (More than planetary range) to find out what he will do in the future and he will find out about the abilities Hades has, and start attacking while at long range
Can you send scans of this? The Parallax he was fighting was the abstract one. And like I told you, on his profile, Hades doesn't have AE Type 1.
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Nah it wasn't. Also the quality of that scan is bad
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At least I have a scan
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It doesn't need to, it just needs to block Hades' attacks. The paralysis and sense manipulation will bypass forcefields and the only win con for Hal is if he is far away and attacks from long range after using information analysis
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