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I dont have any regrets...
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- Akuto whithin afterlife (aka first key)
- In character
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Hajun vs Akuto Sai
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Dear mother of god, why would you do such a thing?
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Wasn't really concluded tho
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Most likely Hajun. There could be a hadou god with [set level of Taikyoku] and Hajun will still stomp as long as he's with the tumor, that's the nature of his power.
Unless someone can prove that Akuto Sai does transcend an infinite outerversal hierarchy of stories, this isn't even a debate, and even if he does, that's only the beginning of the debate.
Unless someone can prove that Akuto Sai does transcend an infinite outerversal hierarchy of stories, this isn't even a debate, and even if he does, that's only the beginning of the debate.
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I mean, there is something called incap as Monarch said in the thread linked.
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Based off what I've heard from other users about Akuto Sai he's on a level that's beyond even Umineko's highest tiers besides their tier 0 obviously and his verse needs a revision.Dunno if that means something but take it for what you will
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Tony di bugalu said:
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Considering that Akuto needs mana and Manji Mandala erases everything... then wouldn't Sai be capable of nothing? Not saying he would be dead but that would mean that he won't be able to fight Hajun, making him the winner
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If mana works like Taikyoku then no, but if it doesn't then he could do it.
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Hajun spites
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2917419 I made a thread on why he does transcend an infinite layered hierarchy of outerversal characters & as to why he should be high outerversal.Ravenous4th said:
for the reasons mentioned in that thread, I vote for akuto sai as his mere existence would be too much for the hajun to comprehend.
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https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2917419 I made a thread on why he does transcend an infinite layered hierarchy of outerversal characters & as to why he should be high outerversal.
That's not how High Outerversal works. Being "high into tier 0" is impossible, especially when tier 0 was explicitly never about sheer power.
You just can't achieve Tier 0 rating when you are a mere fraction of a former High 1-A. Even DarkLK was against tier 0 Akuto.
About your thread:
Sai's hierarchial position is extremely vague, that's why it's currently under a revision with the verse as a whole, but it's definitely not something you're trying to make it out to be.
An infinite hierarchy? Possibly, but transcending an infinite number of infinite hierarchy is completely out of the question. You arewanking taking things out of context.
Also do note that even if he were as high as you think he is, he still wouldn't qualify as a tier 0.
for the reasons mentioned in that thread, I vote for akuto sai as his mere existence would be too much for the hajun to comprehend.
"would be too much for Hajun" - This is very unlikely, Hajun transcends atleast a hierarchy as his power has already risen beyond Taiji numerical value (Could be any set value/cap and Hajun will exceed it and rise beyond). If anything, midballed Hajun is on the same level as highballed Akuto Sai.
Don't see how Akuto's winning when his match against Tenma Yato was considered a spite in the latter's favor.
And why are you even voting in a 1-A match? 1-A voting is banned, you simply don't enter a 1-A match expecting anything other than casual entertainment.
That's not how High Outerversal works. Being "high into tier 0" is impossible, especially when tier 0 was explicitly never about sheer power.
You just can't achieve Tier 0 rating when you are a mere fraction of a former High 1-A. Even DarkLK was against tier 0 Akuto.
About your thread:
Sai's hierarchial position is extremely vague, that's why it's currently under a revision with the verse as a whole, but it's definitely not something you're trying to make it out to be.
An infinite hierarchy? Possibly, but transcending an infinite number of infinite hierarchy is completely out of the question. You are
Also do note that even if he were as high as you think he is, he still wouldn't qualify as a tier 0.
for the reasons mentioned in that thread, I vote for akuto sai as his mere existence would be too much for the hajun to comprehend.
"would be too much for Hajun" - This is very unlikely, Hajun transcends atleast a hierarchy as his power has already risen beyond Taiji numerical value (Could be any set value/cap and Hajun will exceed it and rise beyond). If anything, midballed Hajun is on the same level as highballed Akuto Sai.
Don't see how Akuto's winning when his match against Tenma Yato was considered a spite in the latter's favor.
And why are you even voting in a 1-A match? 1-A voting is banned, you simply don't enter a 1-A match expecting anything other than casual entertainment.
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Ionliosite said:
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@John985
The same could be said for Yato, honestly.
But here's the thing, people don't need to know every single thing about the characters to participate, they just need to grasp the gist of their "powers".
The same could be said for Yato, honestly.
But here's the thing, people don't need to know every single thing about the characters to participate, they just need to grasp the gist of their "powers".
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Its because of powerscaling in Masada that they know how powerfull he is. On Ichiban we only have 2 profiles. If you want to question the power of Akuto, then question the power of The Law of Identity.
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The supporters of Akuto sai agreed that Yato beat Akuto.John985 said:
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taiji value is 1 a high degree of 1 level of transcendence above the previous one. shiori kuji can make herself using her ability to be infinitely powerful on top of her taiji value but she can't overcome the likes of yato because of taiji rules works.Ravenous4th said:
hajun's transcendence is so uncountable where he gets stronger because he doesn't want people to see or even look at him or even touch him.
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And I have already addressed that point in the discussion thread: Satanel's shade had the same Taikyoku value as Shiori.
It wasn't even a 1 Taikyoku difference that was dimension-like.
Power gap between Taiji value is much greater than that.
Nothing suggested that Satanel's shade was higher than her in Taikyoku value, yet his power was much greater than her infinite versions.
It wasn't even a 1 Taikyoku difference that was dimension-like.
Power gap between Taiji value is much greater than that.
Nothing suggested that Satanel's shade was higher than her in Taikyoku value, yet his power was much greater than her infinite versions.
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ALRF told me that Shiori can overlap that infinite versions as well.
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Yes, and even with the overlapped infinite possibilities she still couldn't affect the cheap clone who had the same Taiji value.
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What clone?
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Satanel's cheap clone made by an autistic omnicidal indian.
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Those lists trying to rank 1-As are objectively wrong and most of times greatly misunderstood, more than half of the staff already pointed that out.
"Akuto Sai > Everything sans mythos" parroting came from a staff's comment on how Sai could potentially transcend an infinite beyond-dimensional hierarchy. Obviously, there hasn't been a concrete proof for the claim yet and the verse seriously demands a revision, but since the list is using "absolute highest interpretation" of characters whose hierarchical standing are vague, Akuto gets to be there.
"Akuto Sai > Everything sans mythos" parroting came from a staff's comment on how Sai could potentially transcend an infinite beyond-dimensional hierarchy. Obviously, there hasn't been a concrete proof for the claim yet and the verse seriously demands a revision, but since the list is using "absolute highest interpretation" of characters whose hierarchical standing are vague, Akuto gets to be there.
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everything 1-A is beyond dimensional.
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"Those lists trying to rank 1-As are objectively wrong and most of times greatly misunderstood, more than half of the staff already pointed that out."
What makes you think that this case is any different?
People think it's some vignitillions Taiji that's rising at a certain rate when it doesn't work like that.
Immeasurable means what it means; can't be measured at all.
You can't put him under any numerical Taiji value when his power has already risen beyond the "scale".
What makes you think that this case is any different?
People think it's some vignitillions Taiji that's rising at a certain rate when it doesn't work like that.
Immeasurable means what it means; can't be measured at all.
You can't put him under any numerical Taiji value when his power has already risen beyond the "scale".
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