Hades vs White Face

[Schnee_One]

I really am curious about the outcome of this fight, and if White Face can contend with someone of this caliber.

Also does the version matter here? For now 3A.

Hades (Saint Seiya):

White Face:

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Two questions

1. Does Attack Reflection counts with hax attacks with no AP to it?

2. Does his mind Manip affects people without brains?

 

[Schnee_One]

1. It counts with both IIRC

2. This I don't know

 

[Schnee_One]

Bump

 

[FateAlbane]

I don't know about before, but I think now Hades might throw his sword.

 

[FateAlbane]

Elaborating a bit more, I feel like he would try a bunch of stuff and, seeing how all else fails to put WF down, he'll abuse the sword hax.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Given how WF is very high Non-Corporeal and has no Soul, will this really affect him?

 

[FateAlbane]

Well, from what I know there's some SS fodder who can already hit Non-Corporeals then there's people who deal with Astral Projections and it only goes up from there with Gods outright affecting and punching Abstract Entities of a similar level, so I guess?

Not sure. Maybe could try asking Matt.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Yeah but White Face is non-corporeal to people who can punch non-corporeal stuff. There isn't much of White Face that can be BFR'd.

 

[FateAlbane]

Unless White Face is way more of an Abstract Existence than say, Uranus, I'd say Hades can hit it.

Also that was generally accepted as "I cut/pierce you with the sword, you are utterly removed from the mortal world, from the land of Death (which already has a bunch of non-corporeals) and can't even revive or reincarnate which is so badly that other Gods can't prevent that or bring you back either yada yada, wander the emptiness forever".

So disregarding it as your everyday BFR doesn't sound like a thing.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Saga was shown as capable of literally punching souls and Astral Projections.

And Hades' sword isn't BFR, it is Void Manipulation.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

Hades certainly isn't going to Void Manip someone who can survive the total erasure of a plane of existence containing at least 2 space-time continuums via sheer Non-Corporeality.

 

[FateAlbane]

That kinda doesn't matter if he gets removed to a empty world he can't escape from as soon as the sword cuts him, wandering there forever. And since other 2-Cs proved incapable of escaping or reverting it (seriously, Athena went to get help from this guy to have a way to save Seiya from it and he basically went "Haha, he's so doomed" when he first heard about it), I'm not seeing WF noping the sword.

My vote: If the sword can hit WF, Hades wins. If it can't, then I dunno.

 

[Saikou_The_Lewd_King]

...Is it BFR or Void Manip now? Because that sounds like BFR more than existence erasure.

 

[FateAlbane]

Combinations of both. It erases and also removes the target to the world of emptiness outside the cycle of life and death left to wander forever.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It removes you from the Wheel of Samsara.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Has White Face ever escaped something similar to this?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Hades for reasons above

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

also sweet a character in saint seiya is named Uranus I can make super immature jokes about it now.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

bump

 

[Schnee_One]

This redundant now that a rematch was made?