HA Dio vs Limbo

[Firephoenixearl]

Welp

Za Warudo Over Heave 0 vs 0 Bootleg Za Warudo 8


You thought it was Dio, but in fact it's me DIO!


Oh My Dio. For Dio's sake why are you here? Dio Damn it.


Speed Equal (for...obvious reasons)

Rift Limbo is used (been ages since i last used this guy)

Both have time stops. If things go for the stomp imma change this stuff, if Dio stomps imma make Dio start in the rift too, if Limbo stomps imma do material limbo.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

So 1 shots vs 1 shots. I hope this goes well.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

wew

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Yes i know that was fast.

 

[Iapitus_The_Impaler]

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I say agai

 

[Firephoenixearl]

The will of chaos.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

So we gonna get this rollin or let it DIO (die)?

''Roses are red

This is not ok

So we'r all losers

At the end of the day''

 

[CrackerVolley]

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[Firephoenixearl]

That's a vote then.

Limbo: 0

Dio: 0

Inconclusive: 0

Jetpack: 1

 

[Firephoenixearl]

For real though, any arguments?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Jetpack FRA

Does Limbo have anything thought based?

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Does Limbo have anything thought based?

Not rly, most are "handwave" based. As in he does a lil hand wave or points. But he's starting in the rift, so that may give him a bit of an advantage due to being in another dimension, so DIO can't just go, lol overwrite.

So basically so far we have:

• Limbo Pseudo-time stops vs Dio time stops (neither can resist the other)

• Limbo points and BFR's vs Dio touches and BFR's

• Limbo pointing should actually 1 shot Dio via AP alone (Banishing deals damage to people).

• Then we have The Operator who can help in the fight. I mean even if DIO takes care of Limbo (imma assume The Operator can't just build another limbo), the operator can still fight (send avatars or use hax).

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

DIO can stop time with a thought, this one should be able to do it too

 

[Firephoenixearl]

DIO can stop time with a thought, this one should be able to do it too

Yes but then what? He cannot reach him inside the rift. And i doubt it's in character for Dio to keep the time stop for practically eternity and wait there. And even if he somehow reaches Limbo and kills him, The Operator can still take him by surprise via having a tactical advantage from the fact that Dio doesn't know about his existence, or even possess/mind hax him.

I mean DIO obviously has better hax and stuff, but Rift Limbo is abusing his weakness xD.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Okay

Limbo FRA

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Limbo: 1

Dio: 0

Incon:0

Muh Jetpack: 1

I feel like Jetpack is a strong contender here. xD

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Haha...ha...ha...h....a, 1 match ended in a stomp....let's hope this doesn't have the same fate. I cri

 

[Paul_Frank]

Technically if bfr doesn't kill dio he should he able to come back but yeah of limbo starts in the rift there is nothing dio can so to win

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Technically if bfr doesn't kill dio he should he able to come back but yeah of limbo starts in the rift there is nothing dio can so to win

Not if he freezes Limbo. If he doesn't time stop or time stop and then release the time stop, then Limbo will pull him into the rift too where he can affect limbo. He can also soul rip The Operator, but he'd need to know that the operator is connected to the warframes or that he even exists, before doing that.

Btw is that a vote for limbo or just an argument?

 

[DMB_1]

>Can't reach inside of the Rift

Why?

Also, Limbo's "infinite range" should just be High Universal.

 

[Axl233]

Any reason why a guy with multiversal+ range cannot reach Limbo Fire?

 

[Sir_Ovens]

HAD has Multiverse+ range. Limbo is screwed if he pulls the reality overwrite.

Also to answer Axl, HAD's time stop is universal. The overwrite is multiversal+.

 

[Grimm's_Fortitude]

I'd say Limbo FRA

 

[Axl233]

"Limbo is screwed if he pulls the reality overwrite"

Wich is kinda in character for him to use from the start,specially if his enemy first move is to gtfo(Valentine had to learn this the hard way)

 

[Firephoenixearl]

@Grimm Vote counted

Limbo: 3

HAD: 0

Inconc: 0

@Axl Yes but the rift is not a universe on his own, it's a space between dimensions/dimensional gap, not a literal universe you can teleport into. Then there is the fact that HAD would have to understand this first since when Limbo is in the rift he is in another dimension (completely untouchable or unaffectable by others), but you can still see him there. So HAD would have to understand that Limbo is currently in the Rift and the mechanics of the Rift.

I didn't know the time stop was universal, that means DIO cannot stop him while Limbo is in the rift (but similarly Limbo cannot stop him while he's outside of the rift, so he's gonna have to pull him into the rift first).

Then if the reality warping happens Limbo clones and Operator Avatars can just take him by surprise and 1 shot him. For DIO to win he'd have to find the link the warframe has to the operator, then reach the operator then kill the operator. Which is obviously easy for him to do (killing the operator), but the Operator's tactical, strategic and numerical advantage make it pretty hard for DIO

@DMB1 Yeah likely, gonna have to change it.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

So to summerize everything i said:

Limbo starts outside of DIO's time stop range, but looks like he's physically there. So he has:

1) The advantage of DIO's "ignorance" of his powers, the rift etc.

2) The advantage to be outside of DIO's timestop and physical contact range.

3) The fact that he can activate his Pseudo-time stop before pulling DIO into the rift.

4) Even if Limbo is erased, The Operator can just make a new Limbo clone take DIO by surprise by 1 shotting him or create a void avatar that will just 1 shot DIO (both work).

5) The fact that DIO has no knowledge of The Operator's link to Limbo.

6) Immunity to Soul Manipulation so DIO cannot just cheat and soul rip him.

Heaven Ascension DIO has:

1) Range advantage, so he can still reach Limbo's "rift" should he understand the fact that the rift even exists or that Limbo is in the rift. (i don't think it is safe of me to assume the rift is not part of the multiverse without soild proof so imma just assume it is).

2) Hax advantage. His 2-A Reality Overwrite is ofc not something Limbo or anything in his verse can just tank or resist. The only thing that can stop it to some extent is the creation of new clones or avatars, but RO-ing The Operator is sure to end the fight (Should he understand his location, existence and link to Limbo).

But dude im loving arguing Limbo and The Operator, these guys allow strategy, tactical advantages, surprise attacks etc, to be used against people i never thought they could be used. 10/10, rn this is my fav verse for battle arguing. (PS: If anyone has anything for Wukong (Warframe) do not hesistate to make the match, though he's not nearly as haxy as Limbo).

 

[Sir_Ovens]

>DIO thinks of erasing Limbo from every universe.

>Limbo gets erased from the rift because he's still part of every universe.

Rift or no, Limbo still exists within the multiverse, and DIO just so happens to cover all of it.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

>DIO thinks of erasing Limbo from every universe.
>Limbo gets erased from the rift because he's still part of every universe.

Rift or no, Limbo still exists within the multiverse, and DIO just so happens to cover all of it.

The point about RO being thought based and not contact based, was never accepted IIRC, and his profiles stills states it as a weakness/condition:

Weaknesses: He is not immune to paradoxical damage. Heaven DIO's powers comes from his hands and fists. Should they get wounded or injured in anyway, Dio will not be able to overwrite reality until they heal.

Reality Overwrite: DIO can overwrite any instance of reality by contact from either him or TWOH. With it, he can manipulate and change whatever he likes with said object.

Without contact he cannot erase Limbo. Though even if he erases Limbo, The Operator is still there to just 1 shot him with avatars via suprise attacks.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

It has been said countless times by someone, I forgot who, but DIO erased things from other universes without having to touch them.

I'll look back on old threads and see if I can find the statement.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

It has been said countless times by someone, I forgot who, but DIO erased things from other universes without having to touch them.
I'll look back on old threads and see if I can find the statement.

It was still never accepted or added to the profiles though and there were arguments against it. Since it's just an unfinished thread we cannot use it as fact for this match.

 

[DMB_1]

It has been said countless times by someone, I forgot who, but DIO erased things from other universes without having to touch them.

Actually, he needs to touch them first.

Before he erased valentine, it's heavely implied that they had battled first.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Actually, he needs to touch them first.

Before he erased valentine, it's heavely implied that they had battled first.

Yup which is why people including me argued that the touch just lingers. Anyway it wasn't accepted or added so it cannot be used.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Any votes?

 

[Axl233]

we cannot say for sure that was a fight since it was implied on screen that Dio casually stomped Funny.

"Actually, he needs to touch them first"

*sigh*

https://imgur.com/1M1KpVc

https://gfycat.com/WanOpulentChinchilla

https://imgur.com/idzYBL

https://imgur.com/e2S37X

"Pseudo-time stop"

if the guy can can think,move and eveen time stop on a time stop if we scale from Jotaro how does a pseudo time stop do anything.

"Even if Limbo is erased, The Operator can just make a new Limbo clone take DIO by surprise by 1 shotting him or create a void avatar that will just 1 shot DIO"

Because he is not gonna notice the guy that he just killed appearing out of nowhere?and dont eveen start on the fact that The World like other stands automatically protects they own uses.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

1) You need to get that accepted and added to the profiles, until it is in the profiles and accepted, it cannot be taken as true or viable for this match especially when there are people with arguments against it.

2) He resists Time Stop, he doesn't resist Pseudo-Time Stop. Not same thing, cannot equalize resistances. Limbo's stasis works visually like a time stop, but doesn't screw with time as time still passes.

3) Appearing out of nowhere...yes the key word is "not noticing" you think the new limbo will go like "yo dude, im here". Limbo like many other warframes has access to invisibility and other stealth abilities. And TWOH automatically protecting the user is useless if TWOH can't see or sense Limbo either. There is then also Avatars that can just go in with invisibility and 1 shot and there is also mindhaxing should the operator just decide to go...eh screw it.

Btw the Limbo clone won't appear there, he'll come from the other side of the solar system fully prepared to fight and steathly assault DIO.

 

[DMB_1]

we cannot say for sure that was a fight since it was implied on screen that Dio casually stomped Funny.
"Actually, he needs to touch them first"

• sigh*

https://imgur.com/1M1KpVc

https://gfycat.com/WanOpulentChinchilla

https://imgur.com/idzYBL

https://imgur.com/e2S37X

Yeah, he needs to touch them, but afterwise, he can overwrite said object whenever he wants. As for Funny, it's painfully obvious theat they fought, and that Funny got overpowered, beated to death, and overwrote afterwise. It's even shown that he got K.O'd by Dio.

And later in the game it's actually fully stated that he needs to touch an object first to affect it.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Oh and yes i forgot to mention. It was canonically said and used as fact that he needs to touch objects which means even if all cases you pointed out are valid they can be dismissed as outliers.

And FV was breathing heavily before he got erased, which means he wasn't just drinking coffee and boom no FV, he was fighting.

Anyway move this to the actual thread, until that gets added to the profiles, DIO can't just think and erase Limbo. Don't derail this any further.

 

[Firephoenixearl]

Btw DMB, did ya vote?

 

[Axl233]

Doesnt need to be on the profile as long as im have scans and proof it can be used.

If his pseudo time stop is like a paralysis it A The World could just touch him him and heal him or B the corpse of the saint could null that away.

If stands can notice eveen spirits and ghosts im dont see how he cannot sense basic invisibility.

Btw,he has like teleportation and power null to protect from solar system snipe or he could just be a multiverse away from him.

In the gif im showed you Valentine was not fighting he was running away from him only later in the game that he decided to grow a pair and fight.

If Dio already hit him as you said he should have been already dead since anything he punches gets insta erased.

https://gfycat.com/BrilliantEsteemedBluefintuna

https://gfycat.com/PerfumedUntidyHyracotherium

Meaning that he did not touch him and he doesnt need contact to activate his ability,and cannot be an outlier since it happens dozens of times in The intire game not just once.

 

[DMB_1]

Dio simply chose to erase Task ACT 4's bullets as soon as he touched them. GER touched TWoH too but wasn't instantly erased.

And it's stated that he needs to touch beings first to be able to affect them with the overwrite, but he's not forced to do so immediately.

Same with the pages and most JoJos and JoBros: he touched them first (during a battle, or even briefly) and erased/absorbed them afterwise in different points of the multiverse.

The ability is clearly explained and consistently show to work that way in the game. He needs to touch things first, period.