The Eyes of Heaven | Ultimate Ninja Sasuke vs Heaven Ascension DIO | 2-3-0

[Brogeefrong]

Still gonna get erased by thought based EE if he comes back, over, and over, and over, and over, well, you get the point

Sasuke would gets amps everytime he comes back

 

[DavidTPPM]

It does? He's stll rewriting the Low 2-C books, and him showing up doesnt discount that the book itself is Low 2-C, and they can perceive him because his size manipulation

I'll say this one last time because I already said this twice and you just ignored it. We have no evidence that the Hagoromo who resurrects the player in storm 4 is the same Hagoromo that restored the book of transcendence. Storm Connections (which where Hags does the feat) takes place a loooooong time after storm 4 or even Road to Boruto.

Sure I think this point was a little weak, but he can still rewrite the plot/history to have him come back

He can't because storm 4 Hagoromo has no such abilities and has not shown to be willing to do anything like that.
Storm 4 Hagoromo ≠ Storm Connections Hagoromo

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Sasuke would gets amps everytime he comes back

But not resistances

 

[DavidTPPM]

Oh yeah BTW Dio also has power null and BFR with his reality overwrite so worst case scenario he turns Sasuke into a pumpkin and dimension dumps him. Even if you cope and say SC Hagoromo = S4 Hagoromo regardless of how contradicted that is, his resurrection is not saving Sasuke from this.

 

[Brogeefrong]

But not resistances

Wouldnt it eventually be enough to outpace Dio

Oh yeah BTW Dio also has power null and BFR with his reality overwrite so worst case scenario he turns Sasuke into a pumpkin and dimension dumps him. Even if you cope and say SC Hagoromo = S4 Hagoromo regardless of how contradicted that is, his resurrection is not saving Sasuke from this.

How likely would he start do this once he knows EE doesnt work

 

[DavidTPPM]

How likely would he start do this once he knows EE doesnt work

No reason for EE to not work, but assuming it didn't, he should definitely start doing so pretty fast. Dios has genius intelligence and we've seen that the moment he noticed Jotaro might be capable of moving in stopped time he adapted by using long ranged attacks.

So he would definitely start trying out his abilities to see if any of them work.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Wouldnt it eventually be enough to outpace Dio

Unless it's RE/AD, he can't do that when speed is equalized because normal Sasuke gets blitzed badly. The slower character can't win by blitz amps when speed is equalized unless it's those two.

How likely would he start do this once he knows EE doesnt work

Pretty quickly, as David said, Dio adapted to Jotaro being able to move in stopped time.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Wouldnt it eventually be enough to outpace Dio

Unless it's RE/AD, he can't do that when speed is equalized because normal Sasuke gets blitzed badly. The slower character can't win by blitz amps when speed is equalized unless it's those two.

Actually Sasuke doesn't get speed amps from Hagoromo. Only either durability or AP amps (he gets to choose one every time he dies). So no outpacing is happening.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Actually Sasuke doesn't get speed amps from Hagoromo. Only either durability or AP amps (he gets to choose one every time he dies). So no outpacing is happening.

Better point actually

 

[DRW001]

How likely would he start do this once he knows EE doesnt work

Pretty likely, hell Dio led with Power Null against Johnny and Giorno and overwrote all their abilities. BFR would also be used quickly, given how the plot of the game literally has the Joestars being thrown through time and space for ***** and giggles. (BFR on a 2-A level btw)

 

[DRW001]

Also regarding time stop, not sure how relevant this is, but im fairly certain Dio's TS here is layered
(why is Time stop listed under enhanced regeneration btw?)

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Also regarding time stop, not sure how relevant this is, but im fairly certain Dio's TS here is layered

Sounds beastly. I'm guessing it's superior to Canon Dio and Jotaro's?

 

[DRW001]

Sounds beastly. I'm guessing it's superior to Canon Dio and Jotaro's?

Ya. From what i remember, Jotaro can see and act in regular time stop from characters such as Part 3 Dio and Diego.

But when HA Dio stops time, its nothing but a white blur from jotaro's perspective and he can't see or act

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

So basically, if we use Adult Sasuke, his TS resistance would be:

 

[DRW001]

So basically, if we use Adult Sasuke, his TS resistance would be:

if his TS resistance is only that he can observe events in stopped time, then yeah that isn't enough

 

[Brogeefrong]

If only Connections Sasuke has the Low 2-C stuff, ill change it to that

 

[DavidTPPM]

If only Connections Sasuke has the Low 2-C stuff, ill change it to that

There's no connections key for Sasuke. Iirc dying in SC doesn't even trigger the Hagoromo cutscene with the resurrection so even if he had he wouldn't have the ress hax

 

[Brogeefrong]

There's no connections key for Sasuke.

It seems like the Adult Key covers both Road to Boruto to Connections

Iirc dying in SC doesn't even trigger the Hagoromo cutscene with the resurrection so even if he had he wouldn't have the ress hax

On the profile it says he keeps all his previous abilities

 

[DavidTPPM]

It seems like the Adult Key covers both Road to Boruto to Connections

Because connections has 2 different story modes. One is the history mode with l2c Hagoromo which takes place a long time after storm 4, and the Boruto story with Toneri which takes place after the Momoshiki fight. Sasuke himself doesn't physically exist in the history mode so he has no connections to HM Hagoromo.

On the profile it says he keeps all his previous abilities

Because the profile refers to Borutos story mode Sasuke not history mode. The only characters who actually appear themselves in HM are Jirayas spirit and Hagoromos spirit.