The world is canonically the same type of stand as Star Platinum which was shown automatically defending Jotaro
I mean, probably, but that doesn't matter because that's all he needs to deal with illusions.
You should if you can, but currently there's none.
Sadly Sasukes resurrection and healing never even healed a lost limb. So if Dio donuts Sasuke he shouldn't be able to resurrect himself effectively. Even worse if Dio outright decapitates Sauce.
Oh is there a type 8 immortality and resurrection neg scan for DIO?
No? It's not necessary. Sasukes resurrection is limited to his body being intact as Hagoromo has only ever resurrected and healed people who were completely intact.
Yeah that's just sharingan shenanigans in general. Nothing that could help with time stop and reality warp hax.It's also worth pointing out that Sasuke's genjutsu isn't solely creating illusions in this key. Sasuke has a plethora of other options with Genjutsusnipped directly from his page for your convenience;
This is sort of moot point. Sasuke's limbs aren't getting dismembered if Sasuke's AP and Dura are insurmountably high. It's a High 8-C and 4-A difference.
It can, since Sasuke opens with Genjutsu. I don't see DIO wishing away Perception Manipulation or Paralysis, let alone resisting anything else catagorized under his Sharingan. Beyond using Relality Overwrite, DIO doesn't have the AP to breach Susano'o or Sasuke either. In this case, DIO is a glass cannon.
Sasuke isn't getting attacked by Dio physically but by his punches. In other words his reality warp. And Dios go-to attack is punching a giant hole in your body or blasting your head off.
Sasuke does not usually open with genjutsu unlike Dio who's opening move is time stop spam.
Even if we ignore Dio resisting those, they don't affect the world which is his main way of attacking.
Why would he need a different way of taking out Sasuke than reality overwrite?
How does that deal with time stop?
First thing Dio did to polnaref was troll him with TS. He constantly spammed it against Jotaro and Kakyoin. Dio absolutely does open with TS. He may not instantly go for the kill but he will use it to avoid any danger he can.
He resists the mind manipulation which is the only threat genjutsu can pose here. Illusions are useless because of TW and time stop negating them. (genjutsu works by controlling the opponents brain through chakra control and is broken by disturbing that chakra control. If time stops so does Sasukes CC in DIO and Sasukes genjutsu ends.
I don’t understand why do you keep acting like Sasuke could even touch TW through reality warp and time stop… it's like you completely ignore the main abilities of TW and just focus on his low durability.
No he wouldn't because Sasuke can't control his illusion while time is stopped? And TW itself would be unaffected by genjutsu? Why do you keep ignoring this?
What are you talking about lmao? Dio is not throwing knifes at Sasuke he's punching a hole through him. Sasuke has literally no way of avoiding time stop + existence erasure?
What? Idc how much "utility" Sasuke has. He literally can't counter Dios main most basic opening move. Like he literally has 0 counters to time stop + attack combo that Dio starts with. And all his utility comes from abilities he has not used in a battle since 2 keys ago.
You know, when he boasts about it, he usually does that in timestop unless the person already knows about the timestop and he knows that. otherwise he kept it a secret and mock them about it while they wouldn't even be able to hear it anyways. he has no reason to reveal the power of the world to Sasuke, so chances are he just time stops, boasts while he's in time stop, and roundhouse kicks him into a pair of shoes.
That’s a weakness specific to silver chariot, the world would not only be fine, but act on its own to defend Dio. As such I think Dio wins so long as he can pull a time stop before dying.
Your reasons were regarding his Type 8 immortality (completely useless due to being erased from existence/various other ways DIO will typically instantly kill the opponent 10x over), and the fact DIO would act out of character and not use time stop as a starting move.
At this point there's an element of willful ignorance at play; DIO isn't crossing a 4 Tier'd AP gap between him and Sasuke, except with Reality Overwrite. And as it stands, DIO's one thing he can do here, solely, is Reality Overwrite to cross the AP gap.
It is a contest genius, why the hell are we here then? You can't vote if your point is refuted unless you provide counterarguments
Which isn't a problem, since DIO spams TS and Reality Overwrite whenever he gets the chance. once he gets the chance to hit Sasuke (which will be immediately since he starts with timestop) he'll erase him from existence.
No reason to get aggressive. just commenting on the many holes in your logic.
You can't refute that Sasuke's immortality is useless here and have not provided counters against the argument of reality rewrite, yet your response to someone calling out your invalid vote is barbaric? Bullshit if I've ever seen it.
Im not knowledgable on the verse, but according to this thread his type 8 won't let him recover from any of the attacks DIO would use against him.
I also checked the profile and saw nothing based on plot manip
Its on Hagoromo's profile, which the Book of Foundation has Plot Manipulation, and via the books he can Ressurect, and Fate Manip
In Naruto, Plot Encompasses History so Im sure he could go to a point before Sasuke is erased
People are allowed to vote based on legitimate reasons they believe in. It's not in your place to discard such votes just because you personally don't find the reasons sufficient.
Actually no. For one, we don't have any evidence the l2c SC Hagoromo is the one reviving rather. This is why Naruto and Sasuke didn't get upgraded to l2c despite seemingly the same Hagoromo that revives them giving each of them half his power.
It’s via the Book of Transcendence which is Low 2-C
My line of thought was he’s stronger then any jutsu, which includes the Edo tensei
That doesn't really say anything...? Again we have no evidence they're the same version of Hagoromo. The one who resurrects the player always appears in front of them and interacts with them, but to SC Hagoromo they should be nothing more than words written in a book so they shouldn't be able to perceive him in any way if that was the case.
Why? He doesn't turn them into edo tensei so there's no reason to assume his healing capabilities are anywhere near that level. Saying he can heal them beyond what he was shown capable of healing would be a pretty major NLF so I don't see a reason to believe it would even go as far as high-low regen.
Sorry about that
Yeah. But there's a bunch of issues.
Actually, when you put it that way, Sasuke really doesn't have much of a way to win. No one really read thought-based EE and time stop and realized that Sasuke would try to put him in a genjutsu, then immediately f***ing die the next move later. And if he comes back (if his immo isn't hard countered, which it is) he'll just do it again. This is a stomp
Let's do that.
It does? He's stll rewriting the Low 2-C books, and him showing up doesnt discount that the book itself is Low 2-C, and they can perceive him because his size manipulation
Sure I think this point was a little weak, but he can still rewrite the plot/history to have him come back
Still gonna get erased by thought based EE if he comes back, over, and over, and over, and over, well, you get the point
