Gunvolt Revisions discussion thread

[Smashtwig]

I think now that it's almost been two weeks since it's release, do you think it is safe to upload new information?

 

[The_Smashor]

Yes.

 

[Smashtwig]

Alright, I got them covered, both Asi and Copen, I'll use ur version of Copen with some little more details on things

 

[The_Smashor]

By the way, some evidence for Demerzel and Blade ignoring prevasion: Holograph Asimov cannot ignore prevasion.

 

[Smashtwig]

...yes he can. Every lightning attack he throws out proves this, Charging Lightning Gun attack, Flashfield, Voltaic Chains, EATR, they all do this

I'm working on both Asi and Copen rn btw

 

[The_Smashor]

Huh. I didn't notice that. The wiki not saying it didn't help matters.

Still, I fail to see why we should assume it's hacking. Teseo, who is stated to be better at hacking then Azure Strikers, can't ignore Prevasion. It makes no sense for the hacking chain to go Azure Strikers < Teseo < Copen < Azure Strikers but again. I think Azure Strikers don't get their prevasion ignored by other Azure Strikers due to elecricity resistance.

 

[Smashtwig]

Bruh... That means that while you were playing LAiX you didn't get hit ONE TIME by the dude's lightning

Hacking is... Yeah, not the right explaination. It's seems more like how actual magnets affect computers, they rip out the metal circuits and stuff of the like, considering the Prevasion is a computer program, it should work on that too

Anyways, Imma going to fix the profiles soon

 

[The_Smashor]

Yeah, honestly Holo-Asimov is pathetically easy, bar Voltanic Chains. The boss almost seems more built for Gunvolt then Copen.

I think ignoring prevasion is a better explanation, just because other attacks in Gunvolt ignore Prevasion for seemingly no reason, but I can see your point.

 

[Smashtwig]

Bruh I got bodied by Holo... Until I started to use Shroud Spear

Yeah, I posted a blog about the inconsistency of Prevasion, there are SOME explainations. I would go check it out

 

[The_Smashor]

I saw it. Grappling seems to ignore prevasion fairly consistantly.

 

[Smashtwig]

I'll update LAiX Prevasion stuff too

 

[Smashtwig]

Oh, you already did the LAiX additions, I'll just go over them real fast

Demerzel was able to summon Gtroros too

 

[The_Smashor]

Who tf is Gtroros?

 

[Smashtwig]

Lola Tanks

 

[Smashtwig]

Also, I'm tempted to say he has plantary/continental range with Tech Manip, because the summoning of the Lola Tanks was supposed to be the final step to eradicate all remaining Minos from the world

 

[The_Smashor]

That does sound about right. Though it was less summoning and more just having control of.

 

[Smashtwig]

We going with Planetary (since the whole country's possibly world's population is now Adepts) or Country range?

 

[The_Smashor]

I'd say Planetary.

 

[Parzival-Bo]

FYI, official english name of the Gtroro is "Giga Lola". Just so you're aware.

 

[The_Smashor]

By the way, since people agree on Paradise Lost being Deconstruciton and not Mind Manipulation I'll just adjust the profiles accordingly if nobody minds.

 

[Smashtwig]

Apparently, Copen can get past Vector Cloth with Anchor Nexus entirely, as well as detect and hit Dys when he's invisible, not sure if that counts as an addition tho

 

[Parzival-Bo]

I feel like that's more of a gameplay mechanic, rather than an addition. Could be wrong, though.

 

[The_Smashor]

Now then, here's why I think Joule should have a Low 2-C, even if said Low 2-C means about as much as Made in Heaven's.

Joule's Causality manipulation caused Gunvolt to not die. However, a timeline where he died still existed. Since Multiverse Theory or even a multiverse isn't confirmed for Gunvolt, we can't assume it exists. The closest thing to such a thing is the song "Multi-Universe" in Gunvolt 2, which is a song that's meant to entertain people even in universe (And if we do take the songs seriously that's an entire, very large, very MFTL+, can of worms in of itself and also would probably require a songwriter to fully dissect)

This means that Joule's Causality Manipulation likely resulted in the creation of a separate timeline, since the timeline where Asimov wins still exists because LAiX. You know. Low 2-C thing.

Also in a conversation, Lumen directly states she's Joule's "Heart and Soul", so that's better evidence for Gunvolt having Non-Physical Interaction.

 

[Bobsican]

The Low 2-C was a joke, at best it was just a side-effect of what she did (as in, she didn´t actually made the universe, but rather made a side effect for it to become one), so it can´t scale to AP

 

[Parzival-Bo]

I'm with Bob on this. It can't be used offensively, so what's the point of making a key for it? Plus it's so far removed from everything else in the verse.

 

[Smashtwig]

I doubt L2C should really be added until it actually states "blah blah Joule something merged/created a whole seperate timeline blank"

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Or LAiX pulls a Terminator in GV3. Wouldn't even surprise me at this point.

 

[The_Smashor]

I know this will make me sound uncultured, but what is "Pulling a Terminator"?

 

[Smashtwig]

I think he is referring to how there's like a eff ton of timelines in the Terminator francise...

 

[Parzival-Bo]

As in, time travel.

 

[The_Smashor]

Ah. I see.

 

[Parzival-Bo]

That conversation would be hilarious.

iX: I came from the future to warn you, Gunvolt. Asimov is...

GV: Asimov died a while ago. What's with the drama, Copen?

iX: ...hm. This is awkward.

 

[LinkSlayerLvX]

Hey you guys I wanna ask something about the game Luminous Avenger iX (exclude scaling)

How can I get Kohaku in Wedding Dress?? I don't know???

I just have played a few hours but all of a sudden i got this yesterday?

 

[The_Smashor]

I just got it randomly, too. Idk. I've never cared for alternate outfits like that.

 

[Smashtwig]

Mah boi same. But you gotta put this stuff in the General Discussion thread aight?

 

[The_Smashor]

Possible Demerzel additions

 

[The_Smashor]

So then, I realized Asimov turning himself into Demerzel could be used for mass-energy conversion, since Electricity is ultimately just energy. It's practically stated, since he states to have become a form of pure electricity and electricity is basically just energy.

It's probably not an outlier (Unlike Teseo's similar feats) since all the LAiX feats currently are just upscaling (From either Asimov or Gunvolt). Normal Adepts being this level can be explained by Septimas evolving over time (It's implied that Septimas are just the next step in human evolution, so it's not unreasonable to think that they would evolve further).

It comes out High 7-A (Though I have yet to get it approved. Due to how cut and dry it is, it probably will be. Applicability is the main question)

 

[Parzival-Bo]

Well, now Copen and Asimov are 7-A. Jesus Christ, that was unexpected.

I understand why, but still...jeez.

 

[Bobsican]

Okay, it seems I missed something important

What happened for 7-A?

 

[The_Smashor]

Asimov becoming Demerzel qualifies for Mass Energy conversion (It's High 7-A) and Copen survied an attack from Demerzel that almost killed him to use it.