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Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 Spoiler Thread

Adam Warlock scaling notes:


  • Bullrushed Rocket through multiple walls, though failed to cause notable injury with this. Later pretty much oneshot Rocket with an energy blast.
  • Easily overpowered Nebula once he got into close range, leaving her mangled (though still able to twist her body back into place shortly afterwards). Nebula was only really able to pose a threat to Adam with her upgraded arm, which blasted him back mid charge in cannon form, and pierced through his torso in blade form.
  • Briefly got restrained by Groot before overpowering him, smashing him against the sides of buildings, and eventually tearing off his head.
  • Easily broke Mantis's arm
  • Was mostly just annoyed by Star-Lord's Quad Blasters.
  • Initially struggled with Drax before overpowering him and beating him into the ground before Nebula intervened.
  • Casually reduced a Ravager to a skeleton with an energy blast.
  • Overpowered and tore the head off Warpig, who Gamora was struggling against.
 
Dinobot1996 said:
Adam Warlock scaling notes:


  • Bullrushed Rocket through multiple walls, though failed to cause notable injury with this. Later pretty much oneshot Rocket with an energy blast.
  • Easily overpowered Nebula once he got into close range, leaving her mangled (though still able to twist her body back into place shortly afterwards). Nebula was only really able to pose a threat to Adam with her upgraded arm, which blasted him back mid charge in cannon form, and pierced through his torso in blade form.
  • Briefly got restrained by Groot before overpowering him, smashing him against the sides of buildings, and eventually tearing off his head.
  • Easily broke Mantis's arm
  • Was mostly just annoyed by Star-Lord's Quad Blasters.
  • Initially struggled with Drax before overpowering him and beating him into the ground before Nebula intervened.
  • Casually reduced a Ravager to a skeleton with an energy blast.
  • Overpowered and tore the head off Warpig, who Gamora was struggling against.
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You planning on making the page?
 
James Gunn basically went "Here's a bunch of characters you'll really care about and I'll set up a spin-off where they cruise across the universe with Rocket and... oops they're dead"
 
Dinobot1996 said:
Probably not, but I'd hope that getting scaling sorted out can at least make it easier for someone to make it.
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By those notes the only scaling is 7-C which is a low end since he was handling all the guardians fairly easy.
But calc those explosions he survived might get him a good durability feat to scale him higher than just the 7-C he would get from fighting the guardians
 
Greenshifter said:
James Gunn basically went "Here's a bunch of characters you'll really care about and I'll set up a spin-off where they cruise across the universe with Rocket and... oops they're dead"
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I was surprised that they really died by the end of the movie when he is about to enter the room where his friends were i really thought they would be alive there
 
As far as I can tell, GotG 3 has three good feats all related to High Evolutionary:

1. When High Evolutionary launched his ship, it fully blew up Counter-Earth. Which by definition is the same size as Earth. So that's a straight planet bust, done onscreen in real-time. No flashback, no mere statement. We saw it happen.

2. When Star-Lord ordered Kraglin to fire the Celestial eye of Knowhere, that shot eventually blew up High Evolutionary's ship. By chain reaction, sure. But there was no Death Star-like design flaw weak spot. So, a planet-level feat.

3. Cosmo the Good Dog held both Knowhere and High Evolutionary's ship in position to create an airtight seal for the rescued kids and animals to run through, for several minutes. Knowhere itself is at least city-level in mass.
 
ParkerKent007 said:
As far as I can tell, GotG 3 has three good feats all related to High Evolutionary:

1. When High Evolutionary launched his ship, it fully blew up Counter-Earth. Which by definition is the same size as Earth. So that's a straight planet bust, done onscreen in real-time. No flashback, no mere statement. We saw it happen.

2. When Star-Lord ordered Kraglin to fire the Celestial eye of Knowhere, that shot eventually blew up High Evolutionary's ship. By chain reaction, sure. But there was no Death Star-like design flaw weak spot. So, a planet-level feat.

3. Cosmo the Good Dog held both Knowhere and High Evolutionary's ship in position to create an airtight seal for the rescued kids and animals to run through, for several minutes. Knowhere itself is at least city-level in mass.
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I have problems with the planet level ship, it was a chain reaction not the ship actually exploding the planet, as far as i remember they didnt even showed the planet actually destroyed so at best would be multi continental
 
ParkerKent007 said:
As far as I can tell, GotG 3 has three good feats all related to High Evolutionary:

1. When High Evolutionary launched his ship, it fully blew up Counter-Earth. Which by definition is the same size as Earth. So that's a straight planet bust, done onscreen in real-time. No flashback, no mere statement. We saw it happen.

2. When Star-Lord ordered Kraglin to fire the Celestial eye of Knowhere, that shot eventually blew up High Evolutionary's ship. By chain reaction, sure. But there was no Death Star-like design flaw weak spot. So, a planet-level feat.

3. Cosmo the Good Dog held both Knowhere and High Evolutionary's ship in position to create an airtight seal for the rescued kids and animals to run through, for several minutes. Knowhere itself is at least city-level in mass.
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Why is 2. planet level?
 
Suigetsuhyugs said:
I have problems with the planet level ship, it was a chain reaction not the ship actually exploding the planet, as far as i remember they didnt even showed the planet actually destroyed so at best would be multi continental
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I'll have to wait for more movie shots to emerge but there is a scene from space of Counter-Earth blowing up. Until then, multiple external sources also have the same perspective:

https://screenrant.com/everyone-who-dies-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/

"Obeying the High Evolutionary's orders reluctantly, Ayesha sends Adam Warlock to recover Rocket Raccoon while Counter-Earth explodes."

https://collider.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-ending-explained/

"Gamora is saved from Adam’s wrath due to the planetary explosion because the Warlock abandons the Guardians ship to try to save his mother."

https://thedirect.com/article/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-spoilers-explained

"Counter-Earth is destroyed on screen, and with it, millions, possibly billions, of living sentient lifeforms are extinguished."

https://www.themarysue.com/lets-tal...near-misses-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3/

"The High Evolutionary decides to give up on the Counter-Earth experiment and just … blows the whole thing up."
 
Greenshifter said:
Why is 2. planet level?
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Basic scaling. If High Evolutionary's ship can blow up an Earth-sized planet simply by moving, destroying that ship with an external attack (not an internal bomb, short circuit, nuclear meltdown, etc.) must require more power than High Evolutionary's ship generates by moving.
 
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ParkerKent007 said:
Basic scaling. If High Evolutionary's ship can blow up an Earth-sized planet simply by moving, destroying that ship with an external attack (not an internal bomb, short circuit, nuclear meltdown, etc.) must require more power than High Evolutionary's ship generates by moving.
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I don't think the planet blew up by the ship moving. It seemed to me like he just set off a bunch of explosions across the surface.
 
High Evolutionary scaling notes:


  • Doesn't really have physical striking feats, and relies on gravity manipulation to attack
  • Ragdolled Adam Warlock (who didn't seem to be 100% recovered from the stab wound Nebula gave him at that point), and seemed to be capable of killing him if he wanted to
  • Ragdolled Star-Lord and Groot at the same time
  • Subdued Nebula, Mantis, and Drax at the same time
  • Threw around Rocket for a while, until the latter used his Gravity Boots to nullify HE's power on him
  • Within the span of under 20 seconds, got blasted in the chest by Rocket, shoved back by Groot, slammed into the ground and punched in the face by Drax, shot in the torso by Star-Lord's Quad Blaster, kicked down by Mantis, blasted by Nebula's nanotech cannon, and seemed to still be able to stand until he was then stabbed by Gamora, at which point he finally went down.
 
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ObberGobb said:
I don't think the planet blew up by the ship moving. It seemed to me like he just set off a bunch of explosions across the surface
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Nobody in the movie mentioned any explosive devices being placed in various spots on Counter-Earth, and the movie does not show any explosive devices. What the movie does show is that the vast majority of High Evolutionary's city-sized ship was buried underground. The ship took off and then the planet started exploding, as the city-sized ship burst out of the ground with the speed and power to achieve interstellar blast off.

And, again, all these people who are not me agree that the planet literally blew up. None of them are talking about mere surface level explosions:

https://screenrant.com/everyone-who-dies-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-3/

"Obeying the High Evolutionary's orders reluctantly, Ayesha sends Adam Warlock to recover Rocket Raccoon while Counter-Earth explodes."

https://collider.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-ending-explained/

"Gamora is saved from Adam’s wrath due to the planetary explosion because the Warlock abandons the Guardians ship to try to save his mother."

https://thedirect.com/article/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-spoilers-explained

"Counter-Earth is destroyed on screen, and with it, millions, possibly billions, of living sentient lifeforms are extinguished."

https://www.themarysue.com/lets-tal...near-misses-in-guardians-of-the-galaxy-vol-3/

"The High Evolutionary decides to give up on the Counter-Earth experiment and just … blows the whole thing up."
 
Marvel_Champion_07 said:
Does anyone have a clip of the scene so that we can actually determine what happens?
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I don't, but here's a scene of Adam flying as the planet starts to explode:

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Now, if High Evolutionary were going to plant enough explosive power to only surface wipe a planet, why would he do it by beginning with a series of small house-sized blasts each spread a few of houses apart? That makes zero sense. It's inefficient and pointless, given the ultimate outcome of genocide.

What makes much more sense is that his city-sized ship bursting out of the ground destabilized the planet and caused the planet to explode. Remember when Krypton exploded in Man of Steel? It began with a series of several explosions, then Krypton went bust. This is not planted explosives either:

 
Why would a city size hole destabilize earth? Even more one that is smaller than knowhere that is about 5km. A nuclear bomb can easily surpass that hole and they could throw a bunch and wouldn't be enough to destroy earth.

Busting a planet is more attractive so the media likes to say it because clicks, and there were a lot of cases where they use "destroy world" but actually they just wipe out humanity which would be only the surface.

Why would the ship leaving cause a bunch of small explosions? If it was big enough I guess it would be a bunch of earthquakes and cracks all over the world. Even more the area around the ship was fine even after the bombs started to explode logic says that the explosions would have happened close to the ship and then spread to all sides.

The small explosions kinda supports the surface destroying only because he used a bunch of small explosives to cause destruction on the entire planet surface instead of actually blowing up the entire planet.

Anyways this doesn't less nowhere until we can get actual clips of the movie
 
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