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No disrespect Dipper but what in the wide world are you gonna do to Bill? Lmao
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Gravity Falls General Discussion Thread
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No disrespect Dipper but what in the wide world are you gonna do to Bill? Lmao
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Fr, didn’t Alex himself say he had trouble finding a way to defeat bill so they needed to put a billboard saying “how to kill god”
Tf is dipper gonna do
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Surviving the start of puberty… man, Bill be better never coming back.
Wait fr?
Read Journal 3 for so long that Bill will get bored and cancel Weirdmageddon.
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Writers room had a whiteboard which had all capital: “HOW TO KILL GOD”
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“Doesn’t sleep, doesn’t dream, but he can still hear their screams.”
(Immunity to Dream Manipulation, as he lacks dreams to manipulate.)
(Immunity to Dream Manipulation, as he lacks dreams to manipulate.)
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Has bill actually ******
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Presumably. He’s had multiple exes, actually. Like Bloody Mary. Speaking of, immersion because he can slip in and out of mirrors into the mirror dimension.
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When you find a hax just add it to the sandbox with scans
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I’m adding them in without scans first. I’d put in the scans, but the pages for some just aren’t great (like that dude’s review). I’m waiting for clearer images and better recorded versions of the solved ciphers. (Or to get my own copy…)
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I mean the Book of Bill suggests we might be his kids since he "befriended" our moms.
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Some thoughts on Sandbox
Also could have added from AMA how he calls Deadly Sins his “babies” to make it consistent. And shouldn’t he have Resistance to Sleep Manip cuz he doesn’t sleep or it doesn’t work this way?
And I already said my problems with Immeasurable speed.
And how is this HDE, he is blatantly 2D-3D in the whole show. It’s just a hyperbole
This is more of Immunity Negation via Rage Power, since his abilities are not layered, but he rather can overcome his weaknesses when in rage.
Shouldn’t it be limited? Since it works only on birds?
Also could have added from AMA how he calls Deadly Sins his “babies” to make it consistent. And shouldn’t he have Resistance to Sleep Manip cuz he doesn’t sleep or it doesn’t work this way?
And I already said my problems with Immeasurable speed.
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I agree
Eeh not sure, I guess that could work but it seems like when enrahed his powers get more powerful and gain layers
It is never specifically stated it works on Birds. We give death hax to characters who make roses wither
Yep
Yep
What are they? I think Imme is pretty straight forwards
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Actually, given he “killed his whole family,” and the 7DS are his “babies,” does that not mean he killed them? Giving him offensive concept manipulation?
Already put it hours ago.
Which are?
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Iirc the book reveals that he accidentally killed his family by trying to show them the 3rd dimension. He didn’t get mad and destroy it normally.
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I thought he just got mad when he realised how small he was and destroyed them, acting like he tried to “save” and “liberate” them
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Nah. Only a few words can be made out, but his plan was to show them the 3rd Dimension, except it didn't work out and everyone but him died.
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True, but that's referring to others of his species. The 7DS came after "His Early Years."
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No the book apparently reveals he killed them all while trying to show them the 3rd dimension. Hence why there’s so much grief implied such as ford noticing that bill looked depressed when saying a monster destroyed his home and him imagining his mom on the phone asking where they went. Really f*cking sad
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Rereading Hax and Resistance Negation pages I think your option makes more sense
I am pretty sure that none of the scans imply he does it via sheer movement, it can pretty much be his hax. Killing Time Baby just made his already existing control over time far stronger, it doesn’t really imply he couldn’t manipulate it before, given he Time Stopped birds in the very beginning of the Weirdmageddon.
Damn… it also makes sense with what Axolotl said to D&M
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Yep.
“I have control over space, matter and now that dumb baby is out of the way… TIME ITSELF! But I wasn’t always like this”
That was because of the Nightmare Realm not Bill tbh
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I see only Resistance to Dream Manip, not Sleep Manip
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Bill also specifically refers to time as a thing you can measure/treat as vectors (akin to 3-D) space.
"Temporal Radius" and "Temporal Perimeter." He also told Time Baby to "meet him outside the Timeline." Also, Bill specifically states "NOW that that dumb baby's out of the way, Time itself." Implying he did not have it before.
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Why would be have resistance to sleeping (Inducement)? Not sleeping isn't the same as not being able to be forced to sleep.
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Bill killing the Time Baby indeed give him control to all of time, however, this doesn´t says that he didn´t have any ability related to time in the past. Being able to travel through time with abilities =/= being able to control or manipulate time
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Time Baby would NOT allow Bill to travel through time like that, thats why Bill only had control when he was dead
I think Time Baby is the gate keeper for Time hax
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This is specifically his mindscape form, though.
Personally, given how it is just slightly vague enough, I'd say do a "possibly" rating. The vector statements, his own navigation claim, and his time travel feat in series (when he mildly implies he didn't have time powers before) is pretty compelling, to me. The only time power Bill demonstrated himself to stopping time-Once in the Mindscape in the Heads of everyone watching (meaning he didn't actually stop time) and when Weirdmaggedon happened, and given he controls that you can fully attribute that to him, but Weirdmaggedon is also the Nightmare Realm filling up ours (a realm with unstable and nonexistent time). Bill also outright solely says "Time is dead," when he does this, meaning it could lead to either interpretation.
He is, actually. In SOME sort of way. Time Baby is the source of power for all Time Travel by the Time Police. When he was defeated, Bill was given free rein to do as he pleased. As Bill puts it: “With the baby out of the way, I had more than enough of the only resource I need. Time.” It’s also why Bill needed to defeat him, because Time Baby has his army constantly within Time (check earlier scan) defending Earth from time based tomfoolery.
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This sounds good tbh. Also can add that he blasted Time Baby to the past. I think possibly/likely Immeasurable would work.
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Do note he did this whilst inside the Nightmare Realm, and Outside of Time.
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I just remembered someone having resistance for that, but idk.
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Fair enough
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Scan for that?
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Maybe i am being dumb, but i don´t really see anything on the scan that talks about Bill sending Time Baby to the past, but just about him sending Time Baby to the Earth
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They were fighting Outside the Timeline/Nightmare Realm (meaning he was necessarily knocked into Time, and thus the past relative to the present day). Also, the whole point was specifically defeating Time Baby because he was monitoring all of time around Earth in a billion year temporal radius and it's temporal perimeter. It should be noted that Time Baby only becomes active after he is thawed in the future, where he takes over and creates his Time Police to begin with, as far as we know. (Which then leads into his battle with Bill, as the Time Police existed by the time he fights Bill, so on and so forth.)
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Time Police was “stuck in their century” aka future and Time Baby was sent to dinosaurs period.
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Also, does anyone has a picture of that page of Bill trying to order his food from that resturant? The clerk claims they stopped selling what he wanted because they caused infinite time loops, and given Bill isn't, y'know, trapped in an infinite time loop, it means he can escape those.
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Bill apparently went by Lucifer ('Wiilliam Lucipher') at one point. That's massively funny and makes so much sense, especially since one of the Ciphers outright compares him to a Fallen Angel: "PRAISE THE FALLEN ANGLE."
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The Number Works. Bill can now laugh at your pain IRL. Amazing.
Also, what does getting rid of Gus do for his scaling, I wonder? Outer Bill? (
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PFHAHAHAHA THIS IS BRILLIANT
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