Gravity Falls General Discussion Thread

[StrymULTRA]

Jokes aside, just writing a weakness on the profile that Bill can´t normally access anything besides the Mindscape and the NR on his first key should be ok

"Anytime a character can use their full power only in a specific location, we just write it as a weakness and not as their standard condition".

Come on now. We do this for Hela and Mephisto, why is Bill any different?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

"Anytime a character can use their full power only in a specific location, we just write it as a weakness and not as their standard condition".

Come on now. We do this for Hela and Mephisto, why is Bill any different?

Is that a rule for when making a profile?

Bill can´t even really access anything besides the Mindscape and the NR without possession, no? Why we should list it then?

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Come on now. We do this for Hela and Mephisto, why is Bill any different?

Those two have scaling outside of their in-realm counterparts, and people actually fight them outside of it?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Is that a rule for when making a profile?

Given that Bill before Weirdmageddon can't almost do anything but making Deals to actually interact with stuff, ye?

Bill can´t even really access anything besides the Mindscape and the NR without possession, no? Why we should list it then?

Tbh Bill even with that restriction could use his hax. But besides that, nothing stops the vs thread from just making the place of the fight the NR.

Those two kinda have scaling outside their in-realm counterparts, and people actually fight them outside of it?

Yeah? And Bill has showcased a similar situation (but in reverse).

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Given that Bill before Weirdmageddon can't almost do anything but making Deals to actually interact with stuff, ye?

I was talking about that in general

Tbh Bill even with that restriction could use his hax. But besides that, nothing stops the vs thread from just making the place of the fight the NR.

That´s problem of who made the VS thread

Just put this as a weakness on his profile and call it a day, that´s my opinion

 

[StrymULTRA]

Just put this as a weakness on his profile and call it a day, that´s my opinion

It's not even a weakness, it's just how he works tbh. Especially when the SBA says that the battle happens in the irl Central Park.

A weakness would be if Bill was something like a Darkner who is completely powerless outside the Dark World, but Bill ain't that lol.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

It's not even a weakness, it's just how he works tbh. Especially when the SBA says that the battle happens in the irl Central Park.

A weakness would be if Bill was something like a Darkner who is completely powerless outside the Dark World, but Bill ain't that lol.

Let´s put a note on his profile then

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Stanford Pines

Ford Pines was born in the late 1940s in New Jersey, 15 minutes before his twin brother Stanley. Gifted with six fingers on each hand and a high IQ, Ford was fascinated by science fiction and the supernatural.[1] In Gravity Falls, Oregon, Ford researched anomalies, partnered with the demon Bill...

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The rest of the profiles are very outdated and Bill´s profile gonna pass through that P&A revision, so....

Any match idea for Stanford?

 

[ShionAH]

Stanford Pines

Ford Pines was born in the late 1940s in New Jersey, 15 minutes before his twin brother Stanley. Gifted with six fingers on each hand and a high IQ, Ford was fascinated by science fiction and the supernatural.[1] In Gravity Falls, Oregon, Ford researched anomalies, partnered with the demon Bill...

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His Quantum Gun should have CM 2 Erasure and more Immo Negations now

 

[StrymULTRA]

Let´s put a note on his profile then

Jeee what's so wrong with putting Unknown? Is it because Bill would look weak (while accurate)?

I have no idea why you're so opposed to this.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Unknown is the most nothing rating there is tbh

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Jeee what's so wrong with putting Unknown? Is it because Bill would look weak (while accurate)?

I definitely ain´t the type of person who would disagree with your proposal for such a stupid reason

I have no idea why you're so opposed to this.

Because i think it ins´t necessary, Bill´s stats on the real world on his Pre-Weirdmaggedon key doesn´t have any notability to be indexed, he doesn´t even goes there

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

His Quantum Gun should have CM 2 Erasure and more Immo Negations now

His profile should be updated on the next revision related to the GF P&A sections then

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Jeee what's so wrong with putting Unknown? Is it because Bill would look weak (while accurate)?

I have no idea why you're so opposed to this.

Because it’s not needed. Literally who would use haxless guy with Unknown rating in matchups?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Unknown is the most nothing rating there is tbh

Putting just a note would be literally hiding the fact that Bill can barely interact with that world though.

Because i think it ins´t necessary, Bill´s stats on the real world on his Pre-Weirdmaggedon key doesn´t have any notability to be indexed, he doesn´t even goes there

How is it not necessary when for the whole series he's like that?

Literally who would use haxless guy with Unknown rating in matchups?

Who talked about haxless here? Bill can 100% use his hax, I'm talking about AP and Dura here.

 

[ShionAH]

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I think that should be ‘ not whatever that is

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Putting just a note would be literally hiding the fact that Bill can barely interact with that world though.

Weakness that Infinity stones do not function outside of their home world does not hide the fact that they’re useless outside of it.

Who talked about haxless here? Bill can 100% use his hax, I'm talking about AP and Dura here.

What has he ever shown outside of NR and Mindscape?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

How is it not necessary when for the whole series he's like that?

He never directly interacts with the real world on his Pre-Weirdmageddon key, that´s what i´m saying

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

hi guys, fast question, could bill get water manip because of this?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

hi guys, fast question, could bill get water manip because of this?

Not a real water

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

Not a real water

oh okay

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

hi guys, fast question, could bill get water manip because of this?

Soos casually resisting the Weirdness Wave transmutation effects, truly the goat

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

Soos casually resisting the Weirdness Wave transmutation effects, truly the goat

im still wandering why somethings get affected by the wave but others dont (plot armor soos is real)

 

[IamMadeOutOfStone]

Not a real water

how about this water?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Soos casually resisting the Weirdness Wave transmutation effects, truly the goat

Real

Waddles still solos tho

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

how about this water?

Where is water there?

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Where is water there?

He is talking about the "water" on Fiddleford´s cup

 

[StrymULTRA]

Weakness that Infinity stones do not function outside of their home world does not hide the fact that they’re useless outside of it.

The Infinity Stones are used almost all the time inside their home universe in the story. This is peak false equivalence.

What has he ever shown outside of NR and Mindscape?

Like... All his hax?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

how about this water?

Making a crack in the water is not Water Manip tbh

The Infinity Stones are used almost all the time inside their home universe in the story. This is peak false equivalence.

And Bill has been in NR for a trillion of years out of trillion and 12 years he lived? Lol. In-series wise, he was always shown in the Mindscape, the only exception being him flying as shadow when entering Stan’s mind and following Dipper and Mabel in the beginning of Sock Opera.

Like... All his hax?

What…

 

[StrymULTRA]

And Bill has been in NR for a trillion of years out of trillion and 12 years he lived? Lol. In-series wise, he was always shown in the Mindscape, the only exception being him flying as shadow when entering Stan’s mind and following Dipper and Mabel in the beginning of Sock Opera.

I give priority to in-series wise, yes.

What…

Yeah. Did you forget that almost all the BoB is about Bill interacting with humanity through its history?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

I give priority to in-series wise, yes.

Okay, so Mindscape

Yeah. Did you forget that almost all the BoB is about Bill interacting with humanity through its history?

It is mostly via Mindscape, and it is Mindscape who showed most of his haxes, lol

 

[StrymULTRA]

Holy damn y'all are spamming and jumping on me,.

Okay, so Mindscape

Yeah he has to interact with the world through the Mindscape. This is what the new tiering has to offer.

It is mostly via Mindscape, and it is Mindscape who showed most of his haxes, lol

When he took the Deer's teeth, when he possesses people, when he made the Bottomless pit...

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Holy damn y'all are spamming and jumping on me,.

Yes

Yeah he has to interact with the world through the Mindscape. This is what the new tiering has to offer.

Uh, if you wanna do this, I think it’s better to make Mindscape a separate key, and Pre-Weirdmageddon its own key, or smth like that. Because iirc Bill should not have his Mindscape P&A outside of Mindscape

When he took the Deer's teeth, when he possesses people, when he made the Bottomless pit...

Bro:

What has he ever shown outside of NR and Mindscape?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Uh, if you wanna do this, I think it’s better to make Mindscape a separate key, and Pre-Weirdmageddon its own key, or smth like that. Because iirc Bill should not have his Mindscape P&A outside of Mindscape

But he does showcase it outside the Mindscape, tf.

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

But he does showcase it outside the Mindscape, tf.

Stanley said “Word to the wise, kid. We're in the mind! You could do whatever you can imagine in here!”

This kinda implies that Bill’s abilities in Mindscape are thanks to the Mindscale itself (like Dipper and etc.) unless proven otherwise

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Also why Dipper has Mindscape key and nobody else does, lol