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Grand cross profiles creations(nnt)

No, what the ****? Close it because it's not going anywhere?

There's an ACTIVE DEBATE. You can't just ignore the arguments people bring and start making stuff. That's genuinely RVR worthy.
 
Axxtentacle said:
No, what the ****? Close it because it's not going anywhere?

There's an ACTIVE DEBATE. You can't just ignore the arguments people bring and start making stuff. That's genuinely RVR worthy.
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I am not ignoring arguments I am trying to address them and you keep saying show scans when it’s a game. Like I said makai was the one who came up with this idea and told me to make the crt so if you need information ask HIM.
 
Axxtentacle said:
That's not confirmably what they are, though. They're abilities the character's have that are passive. We don't assume those to be laws that apply to reality by default.

You need actual proof for that. My point still stands.
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Can you give me a break? I was hit by a car a while back I also lost some of my memories and now have long term memory loss. So please throw me a bone or two.
 
speedster352 said:
I am not ignoring arguments I am trying to address them and you keep saying show scans when it’s a game. Like I said makai was the one who came up with this idea and told me to make the crt so if you need information ask HIM.
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It is YOUR CRT. YOU should have the information, NOT HIM. Get the information from him so you can argue it. Better yet, HE can come argue it himself since you apparently don't know anything.

You can show scans for a game.

There are no in-game descriptions for what Uniques are as far as I can see. The simplest explanation is that they're simply passive abilities the characters have.
 
speedster352 said:
That’s not happening you know how passives work and I asked in the p and a thread so enough of the nit
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Oh you're admitting that you have no proof that passives work the way you claim they do? Cool, then it can be removed from the CRT.

speedster352 said:
It’s been explained by makai

Ask makai for more info
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Maybe you should have the proof before making a thread.


So I did not see Makai's imgur collection of screenshots until now. This does not count for Law Manipulation to my knowledge. These function as conditional abilities and not Law Manipulation. Some of these abilities might qualify for Law Manipulation, but certainly not all of them until you provide something saying ALL passives are rules the user imposes upon the world.

speedster352 said:
I am not ignoring arguments I am trying to address them and you keep saying show scans when it’s a game.
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You can show scans for games. Even mobile games. Just take screenshots of conversations or text blurbs. You have already provided videos and screenshots of conversations.
speedster352 said:
Can you give me a break? I was hit by a car a while back I also lost some of my memories and now have long term memory loss. So please throw me a bone or two.
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Sorry to hear that, but I'm not agreeing with you because you were hit by a car.
 
Is there anything that is legitimately being considered to be accepted on this thread?
 
Mr._Bambu said:
Is there anything that is legitimately being considered to be accepted on this thread?
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I put down what I agree with and disagree with in this post:

Boils down to Grand Cross characters scaling to manga. Corrosion Inducement, Damage Boost, Resistance to status effect inducement for Meliodas (Grand Cross) courtesy of his Blue Demon Mark unit.

And then potentially Planet destroyer statements stuff courtesy of the Ragnarok story line.

Edit: replaced a comma with a period for clarity.
 
Mr._Bambu said:
Is there anything that is legitimately being considered to be accepted on this thread?
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The creation of certain grand cross profiles. I am getting a headache over this and it’s worse since I was hit by a car yesterday. So can you please close this?
 
You're able to unwatch the thread by clicking at the top. As it stands, while this was a conversation you started, if it has merit then I think we ought not to close it.
 
Mr._Bambu said:
You're able to unwatch the thread by clicking at the top. As it stands, while this was a conversation you started, if it has merit then I think we ought not to close it.
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It’s not going anywhere it’s just the same thing provide proof not that proof not that proof either. It’s just giving me a headache.I know what’s accepted and can be used so the crt is pointless.
 
speedster352 said:
This is getting annoying if you haven’t played the game go do. Stop ignoring info and asking me a hundred questions it’s getting annoying and in the grounds for and rvr.
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You can't be asking him to go find proof when it's your burden to do so

It's getting quite annoying when you keep telling him to go find scans to fulfill your burden
 
I believe this thread is stressing Speedster out, so it would be best to just accept that whatever he has not provided proof for will not be considered.

Is there something that this thread can reasonably achieve under that pretense?
 
Well, i'll give my take on that then.

The in-game statistics shouldn't be used for indexing, I don't believe any of that should be used. No uniques, no stats, nothing. None of that is canon to any of the stories, and they vary wildly between the exact same person with the exact same form and power active at the time, because they're different "characters" within the game. For example, Strength (red) Attritbute Demon Meliodas has a passive that increases his crit chance by 50% when an ally of his dies. HP (green) Attribute Demon Meliodas refills his Ultimate Gauge by the amount of orbs the person he kills holds. And Speed (blue) Attribute Demon Meliodas is immune to having his attacks disabled till he has his Ultimate.

All 3 of these characters are literally just Meliodas using his demon magic.

They have no canonical basis. I'd say it's best, if we make profiles for the games, to use strictly the abilities they showcase within their respective stories. The game mechanics are just game mechanics that go on top of the story, but aren't actually a part of any of the stories. Anywhere.

For example, Sigurd's passive within the game itself makes him qualify as part of the Demon race because he wields Legendary Sword Gram. This has no actual canonical basis, he's never stated to be technically a demon because of the weapon, or anything.

I am aware that this changes the indexing significantly, but I believe it's the only way to honestly index these characters without genuinely indexing full on game mechanics.
 
speedster352 said:
Can you give me a break? I was hit by a car a while back I also lost some of my memories and now have long term memory loss. So please throw me a bone or two.
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speedster352 said:
The creation of certain grand cross profiles. I am getting a headache over this and it’s worse since I was hit by a car yesterday. So can you please close this?
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@speedster352

I am very sorry to hear that. I hope that you will fully recover soon.
 
Mr._Bambu said:
I believe this thread is stressing Speedster out, so it would be best to just accept that whatever he has not provided proof for will not be considered.

Is there something that this thread can reasonably achieve under that pretext?
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Majinere566 said:
I guess creating a sandbox for grandcross characters that aren't in the main universe
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Mr._Bambu said:
Then by all means, discuss that. Do leave Speedster out of it though.
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Axxtentacle said:
Well, i'll give my take on that then.

The in-game statistics shouldn't be used for indexing, I don't believe any of that should be used. No uniques, no stats, nothing. None of that is canon to any of the stories, and they vary wildly between the exact same person with the exact same form and power active at the time, because they're different "characters" within the game. For example, Strength (red) Attritbute Demon Meliodas has a passive that increases his crit chance by 50% when an ally of his dies. HP (green) Attribute Demon Meliodas refills his Ultimate Gauge by the amount of orbs the person he kills holds. And Speed (blue) Attribute Demon Meliodas is immune to having his attacks disabled till he has his Ultimate.

All 3 of these characters are literally just Meliodas using his demon magic.

They have no canonical basis. I'd say it's best, if we make profiles for the games, to use strictly the abilities they showcase within their respective stories. The game mechanics are just game mechanics that go on top of the story, but aren't actually a part of any of the stories. Anywhere.

For example, Sigurd's passive within the game itself makes him qualify as part of the Demon race because he wields Legendary Sword Gram. This has no actual canonical basis, he's never stated to be technically a demon because of the weapon, or anything.

I am aware that this changes the indexing significantly, but I believe it's the only way to honestly index these characters without genuinely indexing full on game mechanics.
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@Mr._Bambu @Majinere566 @Axxtentacle
 
Majinere566 said:
Literally nothing. I have no idea about anything in grandcross
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Camila

Camila「カミラ」 is the Guardian Deity of the Beastmen and a member of the Seven Catastrophes appearing in The Seven Deadly Sins: Grand Cross. Camila is a tall woman with dark skin, long and wavy brown hair and has a pair of horns and ears of a goat. Camila usually displays a calm and serious...
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Lillia

Lillia「リリア」 is a former apprentice of Merlin and the leader of the Seven Catastrophes appearing in The Seven Deadly Sins: Grand Cross. She holds the title of Lillia of Desire, representing her will on destroying the world as a way to prove herself as a mage capable of surpassing her former...
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Majinere566 said:
Literally nothing. I have no idea about anything in grandcross
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Edit Here are some of the world-destroying statements There are a few others that I can’t find like the 7DS X Tensura Évent one where Lillia is stated to be able to destroy the world by herself in her evolved form so I am proposing small planet level likely planet level for full power lilia and camila and those that scale to them.
 
Lilia, on her normal state, managed to endure battling Meliodas, King, Ban and Merlin alone.

Valenty managed to equally fight against Merlin.

Eastin and Lilia managed to defeat Ban and Gowther.

Shin defeated Howzer, Gil and Griamore alone with ease.

Camila endured keep battling Escanor from high-noon unitl he reverted back to his skinny state.
 
Okay. That is good then. Feel free to link to your draft sandboxes in our wiki after your have finished with your preparations.
 
Well, then it is unlikely that you can produce wiki pages of nearly sufficiently high enough quality to not be deleted. My apologies.
 
Well, just because I could call for some experienced members interested in the NNT manga and anime series, this does not mean that they are interested in this particular game, and know enough about it to create pages for its characters.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, just because I could call for some experienced members interested in the NNT manga and anime series, this does not mean that they are interested in this particular game, and know enough about it to create pages for its characters.
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I just need crash course on how to make sandboxes and makai help
 
Can you link to your wiki account page please? I can create a sandbox page for you afterwards.
 
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