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Granblue Fantasy Discussion thread 3

ok so basically
There is an Akasha prototype with its own will
and Half Astral and Half Skydweller cannot create a primal beast.
and Qilin is literally unstoppable when manifested.
The moment he manifest
all life slowly dies out with the exception ot Piju and Koku for being part of Huang long and Qilin.

And primal beast with powers like Akasha cannot self terminate their past and acts like a singularity
 
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Astral God upscale
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TheGreatJedi13 said:
ok so basically
There is an Akasha prototype with its own will
and Half Astral and Half Skydweller cannot create a primal beast.
and Qilin is literally unstoppable when manifested.
The moment he manifest
all life slowly dies out with the exception ot Piju and Koku for being part of Huang long and Qilin.

And primal beast with powers like Akasha cannot self terminate their past and acts like a singularity
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this is incorrect there simply someone beyondf laws doing shennanigasn
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Erm

Qilin 1 shotted everyone
Wedges, Primals, Angels, Captain, Crew, Skydweller, Astrals

also beyond the means of attack because it is an idea itself
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More like he sniffed the world out of existence which in turn sniffed everyone with even wedges included since they work side by side with skyrealm
 
Yh like I thought it's not 1A
He's unbounded by logic of the universe just like how Maxwell can rewrite logic but then again it's that ability only reality warping? it still has plot manipulation
 
3Pencil said:
Yh like I thought it's not 1A
He's unbounded by logic of the universe just like how Maxwell can rewrite logic but then again it's that ability only reality warping? it still has plot manipulation
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Maxwell can be attacked byt he can just write it off
The Biyao Mingyao cannot be interacted at all until it was dragged down on their level
 
3Pencil said:
Still shouldn't get 1A cuz afaik transcending the universe and it's logic is not 1A matter
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It can be, depending on how deep reason is in cosmology
In Granblue, it can be 1-A, like what Deonment said
But the problem is a disqualifier
but afaik, we might actually have reasonable answers for possible disqualifier

And if Omnipotent and Estalucia are 1-A
Biyao can be 1-A
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
It can be, depending on how deep reason is in cosmology
In Granblue, it can be 1-A, like what Deonment said
But the problem is a disqualifier
but afaik, we might actually have reasonable answers for possible disqualifier

And if Omnipotent and Estalucia are 1-A
Biyao can be 1-A
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Sounds plausible but we still have so many anti feats🥀

How would that happen tho ? Since transcending estalucia or the omnipotent shouldn't be possible unless done with the blue will and transcending the universe shouldn't apply to estalucia 🤔
 
3Pencil said:
Sounds plausible but we still have so many anti feats🥀

How would that happen tho ? Since transcending estalucia or the omnipotent shouldn't be possible unless done with the blue will and transcending the universe shouldn't apply to estalucia 🤔
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nah, it just means Biyao is on such a level. But doesn't mean he is stronger.

Estalucia is already cut off from reality due to being the one creating how the logic and reason of reality work. But just like Estalucia. another can transcend said reality, and they would be at a similar level.

The Otherworlders claimed to be outside reason and can do what they want. But that is incorrect because they cannot use their hax on anyone who stands as their vessel. they have to kill them manually and cannot even sustain a reality on their own.
my guess is that they can be above dimension and time & space. They cannot create it either to sustain reality, so it would just collapse without providence. AKA they really cannot create a reality like Estalucia/ Astral-God/Sky-God and Omnipotent can
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
nah, it just means Biyao is on such a level. But doesn't mean he is stronger.

Estalucia is already cut off from reality due to being the one creating how the logic and reason of reality work. But just like Estalucia. another can transcend said reality, and they would be at a similar level.

The Otherworlders claimed to be outside reason and can do what they want. But that is incorrect because they cannot use their hax on anyone who stands as their vessel. they have to kill them manually and cannot even sustain a reality on their own.
my guess is that they can be above dimension and time & space. They cannot create it either to sustain reality, so it would just collapse without providence. AKA they really cannot create a reality like Estalucia/ Astral-God/Sky-God and Omnipotent can
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🤔 Hmmmm
Guess it's okay since that would mean transcending the concepts all together

And this has being my thoughts since that chapter got released and Maxwell was bragging but tauluk proved him wrong, they can't sustain reality and they can't make one.
 
3Pencil said:
🤔 Hmmmm
Guess it's okay since that would mean transcending the concepts all together

And this has being my thoughts since that chapter got released and Maxwell was bragging but tauluk proved him wrong, they can't sustain reality and they can't make one.
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Yeah, cause even Qilin being created to be superior to wedges and primal beast is powerless, yet this qilin still cannot affect the being, which says a lot. Not even Koku, who has Qilin's power of Pijue, can do anything to Qilin and the being itself, despite Qilin being a failure but somehow working to such degree but not on the being either as the being is observing them the entire time
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Yeah, cause even Qilin being created to be superior to wedges and primal beast is powerless, yet this qilin still cannot affect the being, which says a lot. Not even Koku, who has Qilin's power of Pijue, can do anything to Qilin and the being itself, despite Qilin being a failure but somehow working to such degree but not on the being either as the being is observing them the entire time
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Tbh I thought the first time pijiu said smth like "not even the combined might of the 6 dragons would be able to stop qilin" I thought bruh was joking. And biyao straight up called both pijiu and qilin a failure since instead of being transcendent beings they are still bounded by the laws of the universe. And let's not forget qilin was created as a replicate of the omnipotent and why it's far from the omnipotent it's still strong enough to one tap wedges in their manifested form and one shot the skyrealm.

And funny how we just got L1A plot hax and 1A resistance to plot hax, I used to pray for times like this 🙏🙏🙏😭😭
 
Man Seofon is such a bum in Rising. ******* do nothing.

They suck Lucilius' dick nonstop in part 3. "Oh, he's a monster without equal.", "Oh, no one in the sky can challenge him"

The funniest is "Oh wow, he knocked down an island with one attack? WHAT A MONSTER"
 
Seofon stocks in Rising are trash cuz he's not playable, dawg.

They have to cry to Sandaphon because "he's the only one who can fight Lucilius"

The seofon agenda in ruins.
 
We literally saw how Seofon can tank Phoenix without getting into a critical state, while Sandalphon struggles.

And afaik majority of the primal beast and astrals isn't even aware of the boundary powers.
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
We literally saw how Seofon can tank Phoenix without getting into a critical state, while Sandalphon struggles.

And afaik majority of the primal beast and astrals isn't even aware of the boundary powers.
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Seofon was saying all Eternals should jump Belial :ROFLMAO:

Seofon is a bum in raising because he's not playable. He just do ..... nothing!
 
ZERO7772 said:
Beelzebub beating up Siegfried for 3 days straight is the highlight of raising tho.
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tbf beelzebub even while injured gravely and struggling to live was able to fight off lancelot charlotta, ilsa and twin archangel hal mal
they only beat him cause of cagliostro locking him up

don't think Sieg has any of that unless he is Post True dragon Sieg
 
Beelzebub says Sige could slaughter: Lancelot, Percival, Vane, Caligstro, Zita, Visraga, and Soriza all in one go in raising if he didn't step up.

It's just so funny seeing them fight for 3 days and Bubs being so nonchalant about it. He does beat him in the end, tho without getting any injury.

I definitely like him much more in raising. He's given way more screen time than the other 2 villains, and he teamed up with you more than once. It's funny to say but Bubs is the highlight of Raising Story.
 
So I was reading description
Versusia references a lot of life and death terms on different religion. specially on her doomsday weapons
Sky-god is mr worldwide

Yomotsu - Slope boundary between life and death
Samsara - Mundane cycle of life and death without beginning
Chatra - Holiness
Impermanence/Anitya - Buddhist concept
Jodo - Pure land In Buddhism
Divine Radiance/Halo/Nimbus -
 
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Beelzbub is Team Rocket.

Bro appeared out of nowhere in the post story, trying to sneak on and kill Sandlpahon, and started a fight with him, only to get his ass kicked anyway.
 
Raising story was pretty mid, but it did have hype and aura moments. They don't do anything new aside fom Versusia. Lucillius has like 10 min screentime in the whole story

Bubs is a massive bum who jobs to hype up characters, but he's cool.
 
So Angels are felt like primal beast for lyria.
Robomi's anti repulsion field can only affect a portion of AT field breaking it but not all of it meaning
AT field is superior
 
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