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Graham vs tensura characters + low 2C / 2-C characters

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Demon_King said:
the only reason why vs

battle wiki don't make rimuru LN low 1-C is bc they need a specific translation.

But rimuru have make velgrynd able to jump in a world

beyond space time with no direction at all

And have also over overcome suspended world wich is that: Supended world feats:

-it's a 5D < time stop (possibly more) wich affect not only one world but all world, while regular time stop are only on a low 2-C structure suspended world work on a low 1-C structure.

- was able to stop velgrynd who is a 5D being who can leap in an world beyond space-time.

-stop all fundamental aspect of law of physics: the strong force, the weak force, the electromagnetic force, and the gravitational force.

That mean defense against it is impossible unless you are

6D being or 5D with time stop resistance and unbound by

the law of physics.

-by stopping every world suspended world stop also the the world beyond space-time A world with directions and time.


Not mine


So how i counter this
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none of this gets to 5D ????????
 
eliaspower1234 said:
none of this gets to 5D ????????
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Velgrynd continued to travel.

Yesterday, today, and tomorrow too. The footsteps never stopped, and Velgrynd kept moving forward.

At that time, the place where Velgrynd and Rimuru had flown to was an otherworld that had transcended even time, and after she had successfully merged with the 'parallel existence' that had been knocked out by Feldway, she found herself in the middle of an otherworld with no direction at all.

An other :

Velgrynd can now find pieces of her beloved Rudra's soul, no matter how remote or far away they are, even beyond time and space. It is a perfect combination of Spacetime Manipulation and Dimension Leap, a technique that is only Possible with the Ultimate Skill's ever-growing power.

A last one:

As an aside, Velgrynd's 'Scorch Dragon Cardinal Acceleration' had caused damage in places unrelated to this world.

Beyond dimensions, the aftermath of the 'Spacetime Continuous Attack' had even reached Cornu, the master of the demon possessed by Pulcinella. His attempt to open the Underworld Gate had taken a toll on him, and he had lost his entire army and was injured so badly that it would take him decades to recover.

but this is the LN (not

finished yet) we debate the WN who is weaker.

Anos cant stand infront of suspended world this almighty ability stopped almost everything in every world of tensura.

Here is Supended world feats:

-it's a 5D << time stop » (possibly more) wich affect not only one world but all world, while regular time stop are only on a low 2-C structure suspended world work on a low 1-C structure.

-was able to stop velgrynd who is a 5D being who can leap

in an world beyond space-time.

-stop all fundamental aspect of law of physics: the strong force, the weak force, the electromagnetic force, and the gravitational force.

That mean defense against it is impossible unless you are 6D being or 5D with time stop resistance and unbound by the law of physics.

-by stopping every world suspended world stop also the the world beyond space-time A world with directions and time.


What about this ?
How can anos defend himself from suspend world ?
 
Demon_King said:
Velgrynd continued to travel.

Yesterday, today, and tomorrow too. The footsteps never stopped, and Velgrynd kept moving forward.

At that time, the place where Velgrynd and Rimuru had flown to was an otherworld that had transcended even time, and after she had successfully merged with the 'parallel existence' that had been knocked out by Feldway, she found herself in the middle of an otherworld with no direction at all.

An other :

Velgrynd can now find pieces of her beloved Rudra's soul, no matter how remote or far away they are, even beyond time and space. It is a perfect combination of Spacetime Manipulation and Dimension Leap, a technique that is only Possible with the Ultimate Skill's ever-growing power.

A last one:

As an aside, Velgrynd's 'Scorch Dragon Cardinal Acceleration' had caused damage in places unrelated to this world.

Beyond dimensions, the aftermath of the 'Spacetime Continuous Attack' had even reached Cornu, the master of the demon possessed by Pulcinella. His attempt to open the Underworld Gate had taken a toll on him, and he had lost his entire army and was injured so badly that it would take him decades to recover.

but this is the LN (not

finished yet) we debate the WN who is weaker.

Anos cant stand infront of suspended world this almighty ability stopped almost everything in every world of tensura.

Here is Supended world feats:

-it's a 5D << time stop » (possibly more) wich affect not only one world but all world, while regular time stop are only on a low 2-C structure suspended world work on a low 1-C structure.

-was able to stop velgrynd who is a 5D being who can leap

in an world beyond space-time.

-stop all fundamental aspect of law of physics: the strong force, the weak force, the electromagnetic force, and the gravitational force.

That mean defense against it is impossible unless you are 6D being or 5D with time stop resistance and unbound by the law of physics.

-by stopping every world suspended world stop also the the world beyond space-time A world with directions and time.


What about this ?
How can anos defend himself from suspend world ?
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1-I dont see any 5D feat
Stopping the time of multiple worlds is not 5d unless they explain that all this 4D space-time follow a greater time and that they stopped this greater time
2- stopping time doesn't work vs immeasurable speed from what i know
 
Yohata said:
1-I dont see any 5D feat
Stopping the time of multiple worlds is not 5d unless they explain that all this 4D space-time follow a greater time and that they stopped this greater time
2- stopping time doesn't work vs immeasurable speed from what i know
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He also said that
and I litteraly low Baling the

feat of velgrynd I can wank it to low 1-A and even more
they have say that in the first

scan transcendent space and time this is enough to make you at worst 5D
 
Demon_King said:
He also said that
and I litteraly low Baling the

feat of velgrynd I can wank it to low 1-A and even more
they have say that in the first

scan transcendent space and time this is enough to make you at worst 5D
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low 1-A...absurd wank
its not at worst 5D...it depends always ALWAYS on the context
also anos folds rimuru and the verse, even thats accepted on this wiki, u shouldnt waste ur time debating people coping over this pointless shit

Demon_King said:
But then didn't that logic manipulation also super wiki
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dont know, dont care, u dont need the logic manip argument for anos to win against rimuru
 
eliaspower1234 said:
low 1-A...absurd wank
its not at worst 5D...it depends always ALWAYS on the context
also anos folds rimuru and the verse, even thats accepted on this wiki, u shouldnt waste ur time debating people coping over this pointless shit


dont know, dont care, u dont need the logic manip argument for anos to win against rimuru
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Okie
He also said
100% défensive event stated by a quantum computer have


failed the scan:

However, even if you can easily outperform the speed of

quantum computers, the reason is still unknown.

Gone with the Wind. It should be 100% defensible according

to projections. The "King of Wisdom" couldn't help but say what he didn't

have to say.

It's hard to believe that the 'King of Wisdom' is trying to

justify it.

A distinct skills actually defended itself, something that

would have been an impossibility, without anyone noticing it. It's still a battle and not an occasion for

leisurely validation. The 'king of wisdom' of chaos was rebuked by Rimuru.

"Now is not the time to be dumb! Veldora,

there's the King of Investigation. As I recall, there's

something called "probability manipulation" or something

like that, right? Hearing Rimuru say that, the 'King of Wisdom'

That easily give meta probability manipulation and meta miracle manipulation for veldora the storm dragon a subordinates of Rimuru

And I think you have not understand it well for what suspended world did.

he stopped all countless world of tensura wich is a 2-B feats but in tensura there is also a world that transcend space-time and when velgrynd has jumped in the author say beyond dimension so this is at worst low 1-C (5D) and an beyond dimensional existence type 1
 
Demon_King said:
Now it's 1500 actually
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Still debating with yt guys ?
Last time i debated with someone from tiktok it was the the worst debate ever
He told me that goku is 5D because he destroyed the space-time wich is 4D

He Said goku is outer using a scan that state this : kaios are in a higher dimension (anyone that watched db know that this is the place of this dimension [the human worlds exist below it ] and it doesn't mean higher D ) transcending the dimensions unseen by humans ( they argue that the dimensions unseen by humans are 4D 5D 6D ..... To ∞D and transcending them is outer 😂) meanwhile the meaning of this is that you need to transcend ( travel through and pass ) a entire dimension to reach them and humans can't see other dimensions ( worlds /realms /universes )
 
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Lmao
True lol
I found someone called cosmic scaler in yt
He said goku is outer and zeno is boundless by 2 layers
I asked him to debate in vs wiki and he said i don't think they can beat me in debate lol
Yohata said:
Still debating with yt guys ?
Last time i debated with someone from tiktok it was the the worst debate ever
He told me that goku is 5D because he destroyed the space-time wich is 4D

He Said goku is outer using a scan that state this : kaios are in a higher dimension (anyone that watched db know that this is the place of this dimension [the human worlds exist below it ] and it doesn't mean higher D ) transcending the dimensions unseen by humans ( they argue that the dimensions unseen by humans are 4D 5D 6D ..... To ∞D and transcending them is outer 😂) meanwhile the meaning of this is that you need to transcend ( travel through and pass ) a entire dimension to reach them and humans can't see other dimensions ( worlds /realms /universes )
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eliaspower1234 said:
lol
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I have some doubts
Who wins anos or novel wang ling ?
In anti spiral vs anos battle since anti spiral is 11D and anos is infinite 4D anos can't kill anti spiral but anti spiral can't interact with nep 2 so can he still kill anos ?
Can anos counter someone with meta miracle manipulation and meta probability manipulation and how
Will anos be higher dimensional character in future ? What are reasons ?
"Anos overcomed destruction of his source (concept) which makes him immune conceptually mentally spiritually"
So shouldn't anos will be immune conceptually mentally spiritually ?
What is the difference between concepts and ideal concepts
 
Can venuzdonor destroy all concepts ?
To get conceptual ensure or conceptual transcendence
Does Venzdonor need to be capable of destroying both concepts and ideal concepts or destroy concepts is enough ?
 
Demon_King said:
I have some doubts
Who wins anos or novel wang ling ?
In anti spiral vs anos battle since anti spiral is 11D and anos is infinite 4D anos can't kill anti spiral but anti spiral can't interact with nep 2 so can he still kill anos ?
Can anos counter someone with meta miracle manipulation and meta probability manipulation and how
Will anos be higher dimensional character in future ? What are reasons ?
"Anos overcomed destruction of his source (concept) which makes him immune conceptually mentally spiritually"
So shouldn't anos will be immune conceptually mentally spiritually ?
What is the difference between concepts and ideal concepts
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irrelevant in the thread
 
Demon_King said:
Can venuzdonor destroy all concepts ?
To get conceptual ensure or conceptual transcendence
Does Venzdonor need to be capable of destroying both concepts and ideal concepts or destroy concepts is enough ?
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Also irrelevant, you can ask in the general thread for Rimuru verse
 
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