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Graham vs tensura characters + low 2C / 2-C characters

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Also how many layers required to bypass unconventional resistance or can infinite layers bypass the unconventional resistance ?
 
Demon_King said:
Also how many layers required to bypass unconventional resistance or can infinite layers bypass the unconventional resistance ?
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No, depends on what the unconventional resistance is. Example maou characters have unconventional resistance to mind and soul manipulation because if you can't affect their source then you can't affect their mind and soul. As long as you can't affect the source, even higher tier hax won't affect them
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Conceptual, just look up the non existence physiology page
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Oh
Anos is core is non-conceptual right since he overcomed destruction of his own source (concept) which makes him immnue conceptually mentally spiritually right ?
Then anos core itself is nothingness
Non-conceptual + nothingness = non-conceptual nothingness
Correct if i am wrong
 
Demon_King said:
Oh
Anos is core is non-conceptual right since he overcomed destruction of his own source (concept) which makes him immnue conceptually mentally spiritually right ?
Then anos core itself is nothingness
Non-conceptual + nothingness = non-conceptual nothingness
Correct if i am wrong
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No. Anos has NEP because he absorbed graham. Graham has a concept that doesn't exist which Anos absorbed.
 
Demon_King said:
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Wdym
Litterly one guy from wiki said MEOCD can destroy both concepts and non-concepts
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Literally no such thing. There is nothing like non-concepts. Whoever told you that either doesn't know what they were saying or you misunderstood them.

This is from the NEP page
Nature of Nothingness
In which fashion characters are nonexistent in the aspects in which they are:

Material Nonexistence: The character doesn't exist in a conventional sense. In terms of binary, this would be a 0, where existence is 1 and nonexistence is 0. In simple terms that means that the characters simply lack the aspect, in the same way that a stone lacks a soul.
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Idealistic Nonexistence: The character doesn't exist in a sense further beyond conventional nonexistence. In terms of binary, this would be something that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence. Characters of this type often have some low degree of Transduality due to their lack of binary existence. Characters of this type have to behave at least as nonexistent as those with Material Nonexistence, but might display even further showings such as preceding or opposing existence.
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Paradoxical Nonexistence: Characters still exist, but paradoxically behave as if they don't when attacked. Equivalently, characters qualify which don't exist, but behave as if they do in some aspect other than their interaction with attacks and abilities. To qualify for this type, a character needs to be stated to be immune to manipulations of the aspects they are nonexistent in due to their nonexistence. An example of that would be a character who is able to think, and hence has a mind, but is stated to be immune to regular mind manipulation as said mind is paradoxically nonexistent in nature. The character doesn't necessarily behave exclusively nonexistent in regard to attacks, but that is the only requirement necessary to gain this type. In terms of binary, where existence is 1 and nonexistence is 0, this would be part 0 and part 1 simultaneously.
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EldemadeDityjon said:
Dude he literally sees everything with his eyes. He manifests body when he fights. Also pretty sure unless you give him information on Graham's abilities he wouldn't turn into Slime.
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No, rimuru's body is always a slime. He only shape shifts to my general knowledge but once you cut off any part of him it turns back into a slime. Anyway if the body part still keeps its shape the I guess graham really negs his head.
 
Tatsumi504 said:
No, rimuru's body is always a slime. He only shape shifts to my general knowledge but once you cut off any part of him it turns back into a slime. Anyway if the body part still keeps its shape the I guess graham really negs his head.
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Rimuru is slime but when he turns into human he does has head.
 
In low 2-C, space ishtar should be able to kill him, god in fate can connect themself to the Root who is acau 5 and transdual type 3 + with the new revision that was accepted she have a big layered negation resistance to hgr
 
Regidian said:
In low 2-C, space ishtar should be able to kill him, god in fate can connect themself to the Root who is acau 5 and transdual type 3 + with the new revision that was accepted she have a big layered negation resistance to hgr
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Too many layers of NEP 2
 
Regidian said:
Not really it was not accepted to be many nep2 layer in the last crt + nep2 comming from [] is way above the one from maou
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Anos literary has Adaptation where he needs to Adaptation infinite times and breaks thru Graham's nothingness infinite times to neg him only shows if he has infinite layers of NEP type 2 or especially considering Each time Graham's nothingness turning into even deeper nothingness.

Anyone who actually read the series can tell if Graham NEP type 2 is infinite layers or not. Well Maou Gakuin had no Knowledgeable staff members like Fate can't be helped. We would be getting some support when Anime comes back let's see then.

Regidian said:
In low 2-C, space ishtar should be able to kill him, god in fate can connect themself to the Root who is acau 5 and transdual type 3 + with the new revision that was accepted she have a big layered negation resistance to hgr
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Acausality type 5 character new revison states Acausality type 5 can't be changed no matter what. I hope the character you are talking about don't get nuked. Unlike Graham's who still exist inside Anos Source.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Anos literary has Adaptation where he needs to Adaptation infinite times and breaks thru Graham's nothingness infinite times to neg him only shows if he has infinite layers of NEP type 2 or especially considering Each time Graham's nothingness turning into even deeper nothingness.

Anyone who actually read the series can tell if Graham NEP type 2 is infinite layers or not. Well Maou Gakuin had no Knowledgeable staff members like Fate can't be helped. We would be getting some support when Anime comes back let's see then.



Acausality type 5 character new revison states Acausality type 5 can't be changed no matter what. I hope the character you are talking about don't get nuked. Unlike Graham's who still exist inside Anos Source.
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The first one was not accepted and in that same case [] NEP 2 is infinity layered.

[] Will never be changed, you can't even think about it
 
Demon_King said:
If go through statements then doesn't that Venzdonor should get higher ap ?
Since it is stated that it can destroy anything that is in creation no matter how eternal or infinite it is
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that just scales to the cosmology


Demon_King said:
If you don't mind
Can you copy paste that dimentionality requirements here coz i can't find them and i am too lazy to read everything in that page
:(
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bruh 💀😭 read it urself dawg
 
eliaspower1234 said:
that just scales to the cosmology



bruh 💀😭 read it urself dawg
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the only reason why vs

battle wiki don't make rimuru LN low 1-C is bc they need a specific translation.

But rimuru have make velgrynd able to jump in a world

beyond space time with no direction at all

And have also over overcome suspended world wich is that: Supended world feats:

-it's a 5D < time stop (possibly more) wich affect not only one world but all world, while regular time stop are only on a low 2-C structure suspended world work on a low 1-C structure.

- was able to stop velgrynd who is a 5D being who can leap in an world beyond space-time.

-stop all fundamental aspect of law of physics: the strong force, the weak force, the electromagnetic force, and the gravitational force.

That mean defense against it is impossible unless you are

6D being or 5D with time stop resistance and unbound by

the law of physics.

-by stopping every world suspended world stop also the the world beyond space-time A world with directions and time.


Not mine


So how i counter this
 
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