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{Grace} Waltuh White vs The Succ (0 - 7 - 0)

Well but it is an explosion, so he doesn't have to throw it exactly right, it's an incon though unlikely that he'll get a hit in, so it's not a stomp.
 
Redite250 said:
Is that the most likely thing to happen here?
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Anything that would damage the lab is out of character for Walt, but a wincon beingh aout of character don't mean It's a stomp, if walt want he could just set explosives at the door to trigger the moment the succ enters so he isn't this much affected, but he will not sinse There is a chance of damage the lab
 
And Walt is a logical guy, he would probably assume the Succ is affected by poison and would prefer the option of filling up the lab with toxic gas rather than blow everything up imo, which would backfire because the Succ has no biology
 
Redite250 said:
And Walt is a logical guy, he would probably assume the Succ is affected by poison and would prefer the option of filling up the lab with toxic gas rather than blow everything up imo, which would backfire because the Succ has no biology
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Yup, Not a stomp just a decisive win thanks to Walter character
 
Redite250 said:
I don't think we see the whole layout of the lab in the show, but isn't it underground with the only exit being a single door? Assuming this is where the Succ comes from, how would Walt outmaneuver it to leave the lab? If he doesn't play his cards right he would blow himself up along with the Succ
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There's a regular entry door behind one of the dryers in the laundry facility, then there's a freight elevator that supplies come in from, which is where he entered from when freeing Jesse. He can theoretically rig up the entrances with explosives and tiptoe out of one when he hears the succ beginning to break in through the other
 
SheevShezarrine said:
There's a regular entry door behind one of the dryers in the laundry facility, then there's a freight elevator that supplies come in from, which is where he entered from when freeing Jesse. He can theoretically rig up the entrances with explosives and tiptoe out of one when he hears the succ beginning to break in through the other
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Alright so that makes it a lot easier for Walt if he decides to go nuclear and blow up Gus' lab, question is would he do that? He would also need to time it so that just as the Succ is within range he would set off the explosives and be outside of their range, so probably something like the trick he used to blow up Gus' lab in the actual show with the exposed wire
 
if your only wincon is out of character and your in-character action is completely useless then yeah i think it becomes a stomp

waltuh should probably be bloodlusted
 
BigSmoke4269 said:
if your only wincon is out of character and your in-character action is completely useless then yeah i think it becomes a stomp

waltuh should probably be bloodlusted
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To be fair, Walt used explosions more than he used gas poison, so both are pretty likely to happen, he just definitely loses if he goes with gas, and probably loses if he decides to blow shit up.
 
BigSmoke4269 said:
wheres that from
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2 things:
  1. This has been a thing sinse I entered the wiki and has a good amount of added battles that fall on this situation
  2. Never is stated that this is a stomp thread condition
  1. There is a great a mount of battles where one of the characters had only Out of character wincondition, this has been reinforced(at least in the battles I have seen so far) sinse I been in the wiki

  2. Examples of a Stomp​

    • Aeon (Castlevania) versus Dialga with speed equalization. Both may have a similar time manipulation emphasis, but the sheer difference in tiers makes the level of their power completely different. Note how even a small tier gap can be massive (Like 2-A to 2-B or low end 5-B to 5-A).
    • Superman (Red Son) versus Doctor Doom with speed equalization. Both may have the same statistics, but their abilities make it one-sided towards Doctor Doom.
    • High 6-A Golden King versus X-Man with speed equalization. While both have similar statistics and incredible abilities, Golden King's passive abilities make it so that no matter the circumstances or chance, Golden King will always win.

  3. Common Examples of a Decisive/Non-Stomp Match​

    • Both characters have several methods of winning, including options that allow them to win instantly. However, one character can reliably use/activate their winning move(s) first.
    • One character has more ways to win than the other, but the other character wins more times than not due to matchup specifics that allow/cause them to use their winning move(s) immediately.
    • Both characters are otherwise evenly matched in terms of statistics and abilities, but one has regeneration that the other can possibly, but not easily, surmount.
    • One character having a level of regeneration that prevents them from being killed, but the other has an ability that would allow them to win despite the former's level of regeneration, such as mind manipulation, soul manipulation, etc...
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His destroying the lab would cripple his empire, so altough he would do it if he absolutely had to it certainly wouldn't be the first thing in his mind
 
Redite250 said:
His destroying the lab would cripple his empire, so altough he would do it if he absolutely had to it certainly wouldn't be the first thing in his mind
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Him not destroying it and dying would likewise cripple his empire, and if he kills it and destroys the lab, all he has to do is ask Gus to rebuild it. But it's already over, so do what you wish
 
Tou_aperceber said:
Him not destroying it and dying would likewise cripple his empire, and if he kills it and destroys the lab, all he has to do is ask Gus to rebuild it. But it's already over, so do what you wish
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Walt had options other than destroying the entire lab, such as poison, shooting it, localized explosions, that he would rather use before the nuclear option of blowing up the whole lab. Also it cost Gus like a bajillion dollars to make the lab and a large explosion in a place where regular people work would call way too much attention from police
 
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