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He teaching Luffy dura neg but cant use it either? but isnt in the scans I posted Hyo was performed the dura neg?
Luffy said it's definietly what he want aka the Dura Neg
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(GRACE) Post-Udon Luffy vs King
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Luffy said it's definietly what he want aka the Dura Neg
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No, that's the hitting with no touchingHe teaching Luffy dura neg but cant use it either? but isnt in the scans I posted Hyo was performed the dura neg?
Luffy said it's definietly what he want aka the Dura Neg
The dura neg is the later superior portion that he said he can't teach Luffy
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Like Tempest already explained he's teaching emission, striking your target without touching them which is what Luffy was trying to learn in the first place and hyogoro performed that.
Hyogoro admits when Luffy showcased the durability negating Ryuo that Luffy had achieved something not even Hyogoro could do.
Luffy wanted to learn emission (no touching) he saw hyogoro showcase that.
WrongIdea21
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Ok it's Something that I've missed then but my point is Zoro Shishi Sonson Is also Dura neg but cant bypass the Durability of King when the flame is on.
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It's not good dura neg, it's just allowing to cut things easier (although he can't cut everything), he needs to cut the outside
Luffy skips the outside
WrongIdea21
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I mean not good Dura neg is still Dura neg.
Dura Neg mean you ignored the Durability, the fact is that Zoro cant Ignored King's Durability.
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"Still dura neg" you have spatial manip dura neg, poison dura neg, internal damage dura neg, all types of dura neg. Dura neg isn't one thing that is usable in the context you're bringing up.
Zoro's dura neg is him cutting the body easier, which is harder against a harder body. Luffy ignores the body completely.
Zoro's dura neg allows him to cut steel armor. Luffy's dura neg allows him to completely go around the steel armor to hit the person wearing said armor.
2 different things, and a horrible comparison.
"King's body is too hard for Zoro to cut with a special move, so Luffy, who will ignore his body altogether, can't tear through his body".
WrongIdea21
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Mean his dura above Dura neg attack?
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Because his dura neg isn't good dura neg, it's limited by dura
WrongIdea21
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This make me more confused.
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Actually wait
It's not even considered durability negation anymore. It's just damage boost.
This argument is dook
It's not even considered durability negation anymore. It's just damage boost.
This argument is dook
WrongIdea21
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So, What Hyo performed isn't Dura neg? Okay I get it now.
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It looked like it since the anime showed him shooting his Haki through Alpacaman's neck, but it wasn't, it's just the hit without touching
The one Luffy and Rayleigh use (collar destruction thing) is the dura neg
WrongIdea21
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No wait, Hyo said he cant teach it to Luffy but he can did it so he show it to Luffy.
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He can't do it, he did a whole different one (the no touch), but he couldn't do the dura neg (collar destruction)
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but
in this scan is what exactly Luffy want to learn.He teaching Luffy dura neg but cant use it either? but isnt in the scans I posted Hyo was performed the dura neg?
Luffy said it's definietly what he want aka the Dura Neg
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Luffy wasn't trying to learn internal destruction (dura neg) he was trying to learn emission (no touch). He haki bloomed internal destruction on his own in a crisis and starting training that as well
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This, he did the internal destruction by accident, the whole time he was trying to do the no touch hit
WrongIdea21
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Nah, he didn't know or understand about internal destruction before he unlocked it. Either way Hyogoro makes it clear his level of Ryuo can't do the internal destruction that Luffy learned.
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Okay. I'm not gonna go against y'all, I belive yall have good sense of judgement.
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He quite blatantly said "I wanna punch them and knock them away without touching em"
Luffy implying it's that is the same things
Which is why on the next page, he references those doing the emission (not the dura neg)
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He's trying to learn the first part, but he subconsciously does the second part
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WrongIdea21
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Then he said he feel he can hurt Kaido that way.He quite blatantly said "I wanna punch them and knock them away without touching em"
Which is why on the next page, he references those doing the emission (not the dura neg)
He's trying to learn the first part, but he subconsciously does the second part
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That was what he thought with the emission.
And then when he learned the dura neg, he was certain he could hurt Kaidou
When he first thought about what to learn, he thought about Rayleigh and the elephant
When he learned the dura neg, he thought about Rayleigh and the collar
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Yup Grace Luffy has enough wincons in this key vs King
Future Sight, Internal Destruction and molly whoops completely with Gear 4 imo if his Base with G2/G3 wont be enough
Future Sight, Internal Destruction and molly whoops completely with Gear 4 imo if his Base with G2/G3 wont be enough
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Gear 4 is really the only gear that hurts King.
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WHAT
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Could Ryou work on someone who is already a ******* tank?
Kaido and BM got hit with dura neg, didn't kill them.
It'd hurt King but not enough to make up for the power gap.
Without G4 King kills him first.
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The way you compare Kaidou to King is incredible
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No offense, you're one of the top users here IMO, but you sound like a ******* idiot. It's not NLF to say he can use ID to kill King
And since King is basically a human in terms of how durable his organs are, I highly doubt he can resist the same attacks that could hurt even Kaidou's organs and knock him down. Literally the only reason this didn't kill Kaidou is because he's much more tolerant with pain, he is a literal damage sponge, meanwhile King is a wuss who got owned by Zoro once Zoro found out his weakness
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Necro, also that's kind of an association fallacy.
