Goku vs Gohan

[Mickey1940]

I find it hilarious that no one has done this yet

ToP Mastered UI Goku vs Beast Gohan

SBA but no speed equal

Win via death

Goku:
Gohan: 2
Incon:

 

[AizenSosuke]

Gohan

 

[Mickey1940]

I'm allowed to vote so imma say this here

Goku probably stomps. His stamina issue isn't an issue here since he will in character put Gohan down at every opportunity, and considering how he has the advantage in literally everything, he should win before his 10 mins are up, esp since both are sextillions of times MFTL+

 

[Mickey1940]

Gohan

elaborate

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Gohan ignore the match and destroys the OP for making a spite thread with a winner in mind

 

[Mickey1940]

Gohan ignore the match and destroys the OP for making a spite thread with a winner in mind

who are you voting for?

 

[Mickey1940]

bump

 

[Mickey1940]

bump

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Chadhan stomp

 

[Mickey1940]

Chadhan stomp

nice argument

 

[Mickey1940]

bump

 

[Kin201]

Add Jiren and Gohan still solos tbh.

 

[TauanVictor]

GOHAN

 

[Mickey1940]

I'm not counting these votes cuz no one is providing evidence

They both scale above Beerus-level characters

except in Goku's case, he beat someone (Jiren) who was already stronger than Beerus in Base, and then got a massive amp on top of that by breaking his limits. Both these characters are so strong that one of their auras alone was about to 1 shot everyone in the ToP audience, including the likes of Beerus and Belmod

in Gohan's case, he beat someone who at full power is stronger than Broly who's on par with Beerus, but when Gohan actually fought him he was already massively weakened to the point where massively weaker characters like Orange Piccolo could harm him, plus Gohan hit him in the weak point

y'all are just voting Gohan cuz he showed up later in the story even though there's no direct scaling saying otherwise

 

[Gohanblanco217]

I'm not counting these votes cuz no one is providing evidence

They both scale above Beerus-level characters

except in Goku's case, he beat someone (Jiren) who was already stronger than Beerus in Base, and then got a massive amp on top of that by breaking his limits. Both these characters are so strong that one of their auras alone was about to 1 shot everyone in the ToP audience, including the likes of Beerus and Belmod

in Gohan's case, he beat someone who at full power is stronger than Broly who's on par with Beerus, but when Gohan actually fought him he was already massively weakened to the point where massively weaker characters like Orange Piccolo could harm him, plus Gohan hit him in the weak point

y'all are just voting Gohan cuz he showed up later in the story even though there's no direct scaling saying otherwise

Gohan one shoting someone who stated to be stronger than Goku and Vegeta is more than enough proof nothing more nothing less, Gohan simply stomp and this thread should be closed since it's a clear cut mismatch

 

[SlendVeny]

Gohan > Cell Max > Piccolo, who could oneshot guys who were on par with Goku and Vegeta while holding back.

 

[Mickey1940]

Gohan one shoting someone who stated to be stronger than Goku and Vegeta is more than enough proof nothing more nothing less, Gohan simply stomp and this thread should be closed since it's a clear cut mismatch

Gohan > Cell Max > Piccolo, who could oneshot guys who were on par with Goku and Vegeta while holding back.

Piccolo = SSGSS Goku

not MUI Goku

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Gohan stomps because he is shown to be stronger than Broly and Broly fought Whis

Did goku fought Whis? No, he is fodder, Gohan is a chad, jaque mate

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Piccolo = SSGSS Goku

not MUI Goku

1) no proof about that

2) as stated in Gohan profile the fight between him cell max is considered "the strongest battle in his story" which would already put even a weakened Cell max massively above Broly and MUI Goku

 

[SlendVeny]

Piccolo = SSGSS Goku

not MUI Goku

Piccolo oneshotted a Goku-Tier

 

[Mickey1940]

Piccolo oneshotted a Goku-Tier

Gamma 1 and 2 aren't on par with SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta

According to Piccolo's, Goku's, and Vegeta's pages, Orange Piccolo = SSGSS Goku or Vegeta

 

[Mickey1940]

1) no proof about that

2) as stated in Gohan profile the fight between him cell max is considered "the strongest battle in his story" which would already put even a weakened Cell max massively above Broly and MUI Goku

1. Read Goku's and Vegeta's profiles, and make a CRT if you're unsatisfied

2. this is from the same guy who considered the God Scale canon. I've said this in several threads before and I'll say it again: Any argument that involves author statements in DBZ should be taken with a chunk of salt

 

[Mickey1940]

You guys are also forgetting that Jiren beat Gohan in this thread

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

The scaling according to the profiles is that Gohan is the strongest in history. UI Goku isn't even top 3 considering the existence of Cell Max, Orange Piccolo, and DBS:SH SSB

Also the Gohan vs Jiren match is outdated because it the scaling wasn't up to date at the time

 

[SlendVeny]

Gamma 1 and 2 aren't on par with SSGSS Goku and SSGSS Vegeta

According to Piccolo's, Goku's, and Vegeta's pages, Orange Piccolo = SSGSS Goku or Vegeta

Nah, that would be on par with SSJBKK and SSJBE

 

[Mickey1940]

Nah, that would be on par with SSJBKK and SSJBE

make a CRT about it then

 

[SlendVeny]

make a CRT about it then

Don't need to, it says "On par with Goku and Vegeta," so that would be their strongest forms.

 

[Mickey1940]

Don't need to, it says "On par with Goku and Vegeta," so that would be their strongest forms.

Goku and Vegeta's pages say that reg SSGSS is enough to be on par with Orange Piccolo

 

[Gohanblanco217]

make a CRT about it then

This isn't needed when Gohan's profile pretty much says that his battle with Cell max is the strongest in history again it's written on Gohan's profile

 

[Mickey1940]

This isn't needed when Gohan's profile pretty much says that his battle with Cell max is the strongest in history again it's written on Gohan's profile

once again, Jiren won against Gohan on this wiki, and Goku beat Jiren

 

[Livinmeme]

So much for the "schoolars" if they can't make an argument

 

[Mickey1940]

Gohan's best feat is killing someone on Orange Piccolo's level, who isn't on MUI Goku's level.

Cell Max at his strongest can surpass Broly, but he was heavily weakened by the time he fought Gohan, and Gohan also attacked him in the weak point, which can be damaged by far weaker characters

Goku was able to fight on par with an eventually overpower someone whom even in Base could blow away all of Universe 11 and 7's bleachers simultaneously with the exception of the Angels, including Beerus and Belmod, all with just his aura alone. Any of the GoDs individually are already on par with Broly, and by extension Cell Max's, level

With this in mind, claiming that Gohan just 1 shots when there is zero evidence to assume such besides his "strongest warrior" claims is foolish and completely ignores all of Goku's advantages compared to him

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Don't need to, it says "On par with Goku and Vegeta," so that would be their strongest forms.

No, Piccolo was refering to Kid Goku and Vegeta the king, obviously

 

[SlendVeny]

once again, Jiren won against Gohan on this wiki, and Goku beat Jiren

Appeal to Tradition

 

[Gohanblanco217]

once again, Jiren won against Gohan on this wiki, and Goku beat Jiren

Once again I could care less about that, Gohan's AP justification makes it clear, the same Gohan who is aware about Goku MUI form and yet he still think that he would have trouble beating Cell max

 

[SlendVeny]

Gohan's best feat is killing someone on Orange Piccolo's level, who isn't on MUI Goku's level.

Gohan > Cell Max > Orange Piccolo > Oneshotting Blue Goku and Vegeta

 

[SlendVeny]

Hell, when Orange Piccolo shows up in the manga, he'll probably be considered > TUI Goku, so I'm hyped.

 

[Mickey1940]

Once again I could care less about that, Gohan's AP justification makes it clear, the same Gohan who is aware about Goku MUI form and yet he still think that he would have trouble beating Cell max

Gohan can't sense god ki, in which all of the characters in the series at that level with the exception of Broly and Cell Max use God Ki, and Goku scales far above both of them

 

[Gohanblanco217]

Hell, when Orange Piccolo shows up in the manga, he'll probably be considered > TUI Goku, so I'm hyped.

 

[Mickey1940]

Gohan > Cell Max > Orange Piccolo > Oneshotting Blue Goku and Vegeta

one shotting Blue Goku and Vegeta is nothing impressive compared to MUI Goku

also considering how Orange Piccolo is stated to be on par with them, not 1 shotting them

read Goku and Vegeta's profile and make a CRT if you don't like it