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That's silly because not even Gogeta SSJB was able to put down Broly until his Kamehameha, so MUI Goku doing better is just a reach. And being a better fighter or having better control of your power isn't an argument at all, cause in the end, power triumphs over all of that. Jiren LB and MUI are above Beerus, but by how much is unknown, if FP Jiren was still going toe to toe with Omen Goku who is said to be int he state of the destroyers then FP Jiren is destroyer level, if not higher. Broly is alredy => Beerus. Jiren FP still held his own against MUI at the start of episode 130.AntorusTheBurningThrone said:Here's the thing: Broly's power is still new. He's strong, but he hasn't adapted to is yet, nor has he managed to utilize it in full capacity. Meaning, he's not controlled, nor skilled in his SSJ form (Let alone FP).
U.I Goku's basically both amazing Power, Speed, Dodge, Intellect, Stamina, Agility, and Skill combined into 1 single genius Martial Artist, who's also reached the realm of the Gods.
Broly can't beat that. I'm sorry, but it's true. Goku and Jiren also have FAR more feats than Broly. Broly MIGHT be stronger than Beerus, while Goku and Jiren ARE stronger than Beerus.
If Broly trains with Goku a little more, and if he can control his power, then yeah, he could be able to defeat U.I Goku. Hell, SSJ2 Broly (Not even FP) might even 1 shot U.I Goku to near death, and that's not even CONTROLLED SSJ2 Broly.
But, as it stands rn, nah b. U.I Goku claps until Broly either controls/masters both his power, as well as his martial prowess (Which will give him a even greater boost in literally all his stats), or turns into an SSJ2.
You can invert them since UI is not as strong as people believe it is, Gogeta Blue should be way more powerful due to the fusion formula and them being post TOP, i.e Broly has the feats and statements and UI has mostly headcanon that its more powerful than Gogeta and BrolyJackJoyce said:Goku's powersource = Feats+Statements
Broly's powersource = Hype+Headcanon
lolInfiniteBlack123 said:In the manga which is the official canon
Toei are natural born stuff upsInfiniteBlack123 said:Whis never said Belmont or Beerus had an arm wrestling match.
In the manga which is the official canon, Beerus only lost to Quitella.
There is no confirmed arm wrestling match between the clown and the cat. So no you are lying by saying Whis implied Belmont is above Beerus. Especially in the battle royal of Gods Belmont couldn't do shit to Beerus.