Goku Black vs Superboy Prime (Redux)

[The_Calaca]

The first one was closed due to Retcon Punch argue so I'm gonna resurrect it to end this debate.

Pink Saiyan-God vs Spoiled Brat

Both 3-A (Black Rose).

Speed equalized.

Please be a decent DB vs DC thread.

Goku *****: 3 (Asuka, Akreious, Standuser).

SuperBOI: 0.

 

[Akreious]

Didn't this already happen and it was only inconclusive/loss for Goku black because of Retcon punch, which has since been debunked?

so...

Goku Black for reasons before...?

 

[Standuser081]

If Goku Black wins this, Prime might go on a rampage and try to kill Toriyama.

 

[The_Calaca]

Here is the thread.

Have fun ovo.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Goku Black takes this just as easy as Goku Blue did back when this thread was first made.

But this time, Black is far, far above baseline and his Ki farmer item thingy that cuts thru dimensions will give him a clear win.

 

[Akreious]

Yeah the only reason I see for Superboy winning/stomping is retcon punch, which has since been retconned (KEK!).

Goku Black FRB (For Reasons Before)

 

[The_Calaca]

Burakku: 2 (Asuka, Akreious).

Puraimu: 0.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Also, even IF the Boyo had the retcon punch, Black has the Time Ring.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Sorry, but Goku Black is taking this BOY to school.

I don't see a patent anywhere.

 

[The_Calaca]

I think plot manip=/=time manip/paradox resistance.

 

[Standuser081]

Ya'll better pray that Prime isn't actually part of this wiki

Goku Black FRA

 

[The_Calaca]

Sorry, but Goku Black is taking this BOY to school.

I don't see a patent anywhere.

Beatiful...

Standuser: Vote counted.

 

[The_Calaca]

Bump.

 

[Fast_Gen]

Nega Goku FRA

 

[Straika]

Black for reasons above

 

[The_Calaca]

Blackson Five.

 

[HrishikeshM]

black fra

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

fabolous fra.

 

[The_Calaca]

It's unanimous then. This can be added.

 

[Schnee_One]

Not exactly a meaningful vote

But The actually well written villain spanks FRA

 

[JackJoyce]

How high above Baseline is Superboy?

 

[The_Calaca]

It tanked a 3-A being depowered while Black is far above baseline scaling to Goku.

 

[Endless_Astrograph_Sorcerer]

Goku Black has a significant AP+Dura advantage and in character will troll Superboy and put him on tilt, spam clones which also have a significant AP advantage that can easily immediately regen from as little as smoke forming even more clones, and will eventually kill him once he gets bored and realizes that Superboy isn't going to damage him enough to exploit zenkai and continue his evolution.

 

[Akreious]

Superboy seems to be somewhere along the lines of...

3-A Powered > Superboy Prime > 3-A Depowered

Even assuming Superboy prime is stronger than said 3-A Powered character, Goku Black is...

Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black (Post Adaptation to Rage Goku) > Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta (Post Returning to the Past) > Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black (Pre-Adaptation to Rage Goku) > Super Saiyan Rose Goku Black (Initial Encounters) > Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta (Initial Encounters) > Goku Black (Base Form) >= Super Saiyan 2 DBS Goku > Base DBS Goku >= Super Saiyan God Goku (Baseline 3-A)

As you can see...

Goku Black basically shrekts in terms of AP and Durability.

 

[JackJoyce]

I don't think SSG is 3-A

Anyways Goku Black conquers with Reactive evolution, clones & ki blades

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

it is

 

[Akreious]

I don't think SSG is 3-A
Anyways Goku Black conquers with Reactive evolution, clones & ki blades

3 punches from Super Saiyan God Goku and a Holding-Back Beerus is Universal (Technically it's at least 1.2x Baseline Universal since the DB Universe is larger than our own). Goku after powering up and mastering Super Saiyan God was able to make a Kamehameha that would've been able to blow up the universe due to it's clash with Beerus it if weren't for the fact that Beerus nullified it.

 

[JackJoyce]

3 punches from Super Saiyan God Goku and a Holding-Back Beerus is Universal (Technically it's at least 1.2x Baseline Universal since the DB Universe is larger than our own). Goku after powering up and mastering Super Saiyan God was able to make a Kamehameha that would've been able to blow up the universe due to it's clash with Beerus it if weren't for the fact that Beerus nullified it.

How is he universal if it took 3 punches from 2 characters to destroy it? SSG is 0.20x Universal at best.

However it was 3-A at the TOP considering training & stuff

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

>SSG is 0.20 universal at best


OH MY GOD.

 

[Akreious]

3 punches from Super Saiyan God Goku and a Holding-Back Beerus is Universal (Technically it's at least 1.2x Baseline Universal since the DB Universe is larger than our own). Goku after powering up and mastering Super Saiyan God was able to make a Kamehameha that would've been able to blow up the universe due to it's clash with Beerus it if weren't for the fact that Beerus nullified it.

How is he universal if it took 3 punches from 2 characters to destroy it? SSG is 0.20x Universal at best.
However it was 3-A at the TOP considering training & stuff

Uh. No. You seem to think these 2 characters were working together and pouring all their power into their strikes to generate a Universal Shockwave. It was merely a side effect of their fists clashing, not even their actual AP which is logically MUCH higher (Due to how shockwaves work).

It took 3 punches from two characters TESTING eachother (Not even going 100% yet) to destroy a Universe. PLUS you ignored the part where I said a single Kamehameha was Universal, which Beerus casually blocked.

Also, correction, my bad. The Dragon Ball Universe isn't 1.2x Universal. It's 2.2x minimum (Otherworld is as big as the Mortal World, and Hell + The Realm of the Kais are a fraction of the size of the mortal realm).

 

[The_Smashor]

Goku Black FRA.

Also narrowly avoiding the Goku vs Superman rule. After all, this is a God in Goku's body vs Alternate Timeline Superman. Nice.

 

[The_Calaca]

It's already finished but isn't added.

 

[The_Smashor]

I'll add it to Black's profile. Nevermind it's locked. I thought it wasn't because he's only 3-A.

 

[PsychoWarper]

Goku Black FRA

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Parece que temos um br aqui n├úo é mesmo?

 

[JackJoyce]

Parece que temos um br aqui n├úo é mesmo?

você não fala inglês?

 

[JackJoyce]

Superboy has been upgraded to Low 2-C. Someone close this

 

[Final_Mr.Fear]

Eu sei falar inglês