Goku Black vs Ruby Rose (grace)

[Spinoirr]

• Future Trunks Saga (Final Future Trip) ruby is being used, meaning she has no access to anything scaling to 6 universes as that only happened in the ToP arc
• fight takes place on patch on remnant
• Using What-If #9 Goku Black

Ruby Rose: 4

Goku Black:

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[Spinoirr]

Ruby's version of Goku and Vegeta mastered super saiyan blue by the time of the Universe 6 tournament and have been training alongside her and Raditz, thus making them stronger then cannon and ruby is stronger then them and could fight on par with fused Zamasu of her timeline who is a stronger fused zamasu and she did this in Ultra Synergy after using Ultra Synergy while fused with Vegeta gave both of them a boost in power

 

[NishizumiShiho]

I look up into Goku Black profile, his speed is equal to that of Base Jiren and we all know Goku Black reactive evolution is crazy.

If Ruby didn't finish the fight as fast as she could, Goku Black would catch up.

 

[Spinoirr]

I look up into Goku Black profile, his speed is equal to that of Base Jiren and we all know Goku Black reactive evolution is crazy.

If Ruby didn't finish the fight as fast as she could, Goku Black would catch up.

Thankfully Ultra Synergy let's Ruby grow stronger and faster without limit

Also Ruby's aura forcefield kinda protects her from 70 hits from those comparable in power and thank to Ultra Synergy, her aura that acts like a health bar acts like a regenerating health bar in a video game, meaning black needs to do rapid massive damage to ruby to break it or just one shot it with a attack that's 70 times stronger then her

 

[Spinoirr]

Ultra Synergy: Ultra Synergy is a state which grants Ruby god-like traits, by mixing God Ki with Preservation Energy. By activating more of her godly ki, Ruby's power increases to a whole other level from what it was before. However it can let the user grow stronger with no limit so long as they think about protecting others, as the form is fueled by the desire to preserve life and lets the user use Preservation energy much better

Empowerment (Ultra Synergy fuels itself with Ruby's strong desire to preserve life, becoming stronger as she fights to protect)

Ultra Synergy let's the user grow stronger without limit also by self preservation, however it's power growth is slower with only Self Preservation as shown with Ruby Black

However given Ruby see Black as a massive threat, she'll basically grow stronger without limit to be able to keep up fine

 

[Another_Council]

Black isn’t stupid so he would likely recognize that Ruby is a strong opponent. This in mind, his starting move is obviously powering up as much as possible and spamming ki attacks. In addition, he would likely form a duplicate of himself in the battle to try and discern her weaknesses. There’s also the space-time teleport spam thanks to the Time Ring.

 

[Spinoirr]

she already knows Goku Black, immortal Zamasu and even Ruby Black due to her own experiences in her timeline (thus knowing about the time rings)

While Goku Black would be going in blind against her, so he would try trial and error against her to test her

 

[Another_Council]

I think it’s likely that Black would recognize Ruby’s growing strength, and he’s already experienced something like that before with Broly. He’s definitely gonna go for an insta-kill. Funnily enough, What if 9 implied Black is capable of using Super Saiyan Rose 2, and further stacking his power with Kaioken. In addition, his teleportation spam is not like any teleportation, which would make it difficult for Ruby to find him.

Edit: Oh yeah, unless Ruby’s first move is destroying the time ring, Black can just transport himself to another timeline, heal, and come back stronger. It’s literally his entire strategy when he’s cornered.

 

[Spinoirr]

I think it’s likely that Black would recognize Ruby’s growing strength, and he’s already experienced something like that before with Broly. He’s definitely gonna go for an insta-kill. Funnily enough, What if 9 implied Black is capable of using Super Saiyan Rose 2, and further stacking his power with Kaioken. In addition, his teleportation spam is not like any teleportation, which would make it difficult for Ruby to find him.

Thankfully Ultra Synergy let's Ruby grow stronger and faster without limit

Also Ruby's aura forcefield kinda protects her from 70 hits from those comparable in power and thank to Ultra Synergy, her aura that acts like a health bar acts like a regenerating health bar in a video game, meaning black needs to do rapid massive damage to ruby to break it or just one shot it with a attack that's 70 times stronger then her

Yeah to one shot her he'd need a attack that's 70 times stronger then her or deal massive damage and make sure she can't dodge and good luck with that with her class T lifting strength to break out of telekinesis and given her limitless growing power that let's her keep up with him, yeah that's going to be hard + her having the ability to turn into a cloud of molecules that grant a speed blitz amp and teleportation

Not to mention some of her her elemetal magic he doesn't have a resistance too

Ruby is a genius in battle and a leader that comes up with strategies on the spot, so she'll probably come up with a plan to beat Black or Black just forces her to go Ultra Instinct Sign 1

 

[Another_Council]

Goku Black is a genius as well, the dude’s fought against other combat geniuses like Gohan and Vegeta and outsmarted both multiple times in their fights. He’s capable of doing the same thing as Ruby, in terms of intelligence.

Again, one of his first starting moves is spamming his teleportation. Again, it’s not normal teleportation. It’s teleporting him a couple moments into the future in a different location. He can just keep doing that to overwhelm her. He ain’t afraid of doing dirty moves to win, after all.

He can always just deal with her elemental attacks with his barriers and defenses too, so that becomes a moot point. In addition, he can always just amp himself with Kaioken x10 and just use that overwhelming speed and teleportation spam to deal with her forcefield.

 

[Spinoirr]

Goku Black is a genius as well, the dude’s fought against other combat geniuses like Gohan and Vegeta and outsmarted both multiple times in their fights. He’s capable of doing the same thing as Ruby, in terms of intelligence.

Again, one of his first starting moves is spamming his teleportation. Again, it’s not normal teleportation. It’s teleporting him a couple moments into the future in a different location. He can just keep doing that to overwhelm her. He ain’t afraid of doing dirty moves to win, after all.

He can always just deal with her elemental attacks with his barriers and defenses too, so that becomes a moot point. In addition, he can always just amp himself with Kaioken x10 and just use that overwhelming speed and teleportation spam to deal with her forcefield.

Well yeah, but here he has no back up plans at all other then escaping with the time ring and if she ever uses her class t lifting strength to hold his arm and take his time ring and deteoy it then he wouldn't have any back up plans

Aka no more time jumps

 

[Spinoirr]

Also she can just auto lock freeze or auto lock hit Black's physical body through his forcefield with her elemetal magic just by putting up a hand and auto locking onto his body

 

[Another_Council]

Black does still have options to escape the timeline via dragon balls. But, that just ends in Ruby’s win. That’s, like, one of the many Ls Black takes during this fight. The other two are him getting shat on by UI Ruby or being stunlocked by her elements.

Fine, I’m voting Black taking the third L in his lifetime.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

How exactly is Black supposed to win this? He's completely and utterly ****** because he can't deal with Ruby's Aura meanwhile she has insta-gib hax and 'I'm actually hacking the game' AD.

 

[Another_Council]

The only considerable way he could win is being bloodlusted to all hell and back to the point of insta-using Rose Kaioken x10 and using the time ring’s teleportation to catch her off-guard and destroy her the moment the fight begins.

 

[Another_Council]

The only considerable way he could win is being bloodlusted to all hell and back to the point of insta-using Rose Kaioken x10 and using the time ring’s teleportation to catch her off-guard and destroy her the moment the fight begins.

Since this is in-character however, Black wouldn’t do that.

 

[Spinoirr]

Since this is in-character however, Black wouldn’t do that.

Unless he notices she is growing stronger without limit like a GoD with Ultra Ego (the technique) and try absolutely as hard as he can to kill her

Which will be hard given Ruby's fighting style is fast and ruthless, giving her foe no breathing room with her Cresent rose

 

[Another_Council]

Well, the moment Black recognizes that Ruby begins growing in power, he would start using Kaioken multiple times in succession. Ruby's fighting style would similarly be matched as Black is known for doing the same thing, including using various Ki weapons and Ki trickery. Like I said earlier, he is capable of creating ki duplicates of himself and it is entirely possible he would be able to trick Ruby a couple of times. Problem is, he doesn't have an answer to that stupid broken AD.

 

[Spinoirr]

Just like Ultra Ego and Ultra Instinct, Ultra Synergy's power does depend on the mindset of the user, as its a state of mind just like the other Ultra Forms, meaning it NEEDS Ruby to stay focused on what she wants to protect and think about what she wants to protect while in battle, she just trained over two decades to tap into thus mindset quicker and quicker in life or death moments

But sense getting Ultra Synergy, she had to learn to Tap into that mindset for longer instead and had Ultra Synergy for 3 years and multiple months by this point

 

[Another_Council]

Well, considering how quick Black is to deduce the weakness and strengths of various characters, he would likely be able to figure out Ultra Synergy's weakness. So there is a definite possibility he could capitalize on its weaknesses. In addition, he would be able to use Kaioken to at least keep up with her during those moments. It's also entirely possible he could use the same techniques as his canon counterpart. Which allows him to summon clones from that rip in space-time. So those would be a distraction for him to figure out how to win. That being, using Kaioken or trying to hit her with the scythe.

 

[Spinoirr]

Well, considering how quick Black is to deduce the weakness and strengths of various characters, he would likely be able to figure out Ultra Synergy's weakness. So there is a definite possibility he could capitalize on its weaknesses. In addition, he would be able to use Kaioken to at least keep up with her during those moments. It's also entirely possible he could use the same techniques as his canon counterpart. Which allows him to summon clones from that rip in space-time. So those would be a distraction for him to figure out how to win. That being, using Kaioken or trying to hit her with the scythe.

Yeah, but she can just dodge it like Vegeta did

Also he never used them in the what if videos I'm pretty sure. He just has them because his cannon self does, but he could use it

 

[Another_Council]

Yeah, that's pretty much what would happen anyways. At the very least, the rift can be used for the clones.

 

[Spinoirr]

Yeah, that's pretty much what would happen anyways. At the very least, the rift can be used for the clones.

Yeah, that's true

It's just Ruby wins most times then most

 

[Spinoirr]

Anyway Ruby fra

 

[Spinoirr]

Bump

 

[Spinoirr]

OK so ssj rosè goku black is above ssj blue goku from the FT arc in power

8:34

Goku black with kaioken times 10 ssj rosè is above mastered ssj blue goku who's on par with fused Zamasu and is below base jiren in power
9:20

Although Black with ssj rose kaioken times 10 can take hits from SSJ4 Broly, who was stated to be on par with Full Power Jiren. But he was clearly getting stomped by him and needed fusion to beat broly

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Ruby FRA

 

[Volt12121]

Ruby fra