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Rules: This is Post Crisis Wally West with the entire Speed Force vs DBH Fused Zamasu. Speed Equalized. Otherwise SBA.
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Goku Black vs Reverse Flash but not
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Well this isn't a stomp (i hope) so it's better than that matchup be default.
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Interesting match up. Zamasu's wincons are going to be:
Using EE [The hakai can erase the soul and body, energy attacks, spirits and much more from existence] it has also void manipulation.
The EE would be very dangerous with his passive probability manipulation and negation [increases the prob his hits of landing, decreasing the prob opponents hit landing, plus he can negate others probability manipulation ability].
He has passive multiple stupid fuckton wall of stat [from increasing his own, decreasing the others, damage boost, damage boost reduction, damage reduction etc etc...] if zamasu didn't have the AP, with this it could possibly turn into a one shot .
He has acasuality type 1.
He has mid godly, and if some reason his body gets destroyed, he will turn into wall paper zamasu [which gives him nigh omnipresence across multiple timelines, AE type 1, Reality warping, fusionism, and higher dimensional existence]
Can bfr people, teleportation, use his slashes to cut through space time [it gives him durability negation, he can also summon multiple copies of himself that all have mid godly and his abilities ofcourse]
He can also absorbs energy, ki and life force.
Reactive power level why not
His normal attacks and ki blast can damage the opponents stamina too.
[He can also potentially summon chronoa and hearts since he has goku's abilities, that's why he has EE]
Using EE [The hakai can erase the soul and body, energy attacks, spirits and much more from existence] it has also void manipulation.
The EE would be very dangerous with his passive probability manipulation and negation [increases the prob his hits of landing, decreasing the prob opponents hit landing, plus he can negate others probability manipulation ability].
He has passive multiple stupid fuckton wall of stat [from increasing his own, decreasing the others, damage boost, damage boost reduction, damage reduction etc etc...] if zamasu didn't have the AP, with this it could possibly turn into a one shot .
He has acasuality type 1.
He has mid godly, and if some reason his body gets destroyed, he will turn into wall paper zamasu [which gives him nigh omnipresence across multiple timelines, AE type 1, Reality warping, fusionism, and higher dimensional existence]
Can bfr people, teleportation, use his slashes to cut through space time [it gives him durability negation, he can also summon multiple copies of himself that all have mid godly and his abilities ofcourse]
He can also absorbs energy, ki and life force.
Reactive power level why not
His normal attacks and ki blast can damage the opponents stamina too.
[He can also potentially summon chronoa and hearts since he has goku's abilities, that's why he has EE]
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I'm pretty sure the whole "Having all of Goku's abilities thing" would only be Goku during DBS, not CC Goku or Xeno Goku.
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Odd.
I don't think specifically summoning Chronoa would work for him though, considering they're enemies.
I don't think specifically summoning Chronoa would work for him though, considering they're enemies.
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Reminded that CC Goku is DBS Goku + some movies, though the game cards don't differentiate him from DBS Goku
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When did Fused Zamasu used EE?
Also, how is Flash going to deal with Fused Zamasu's Mid-Godly?
Also, how is Flash going to deal with Fused Zamasu's Mid-Godly?
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But does he use it in-character
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I don't think the flash can deal with multiple mid godly clones that will bomber him with dura neg, stat hax, EE, power null, prob manipulation and negation plus if he destroys thier bodies they just...ya know turn into will/soul and fuse with everything, multiple nigh omnipresence mid godly AE type 1 higher dimensional existence people less go-
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DBH Fused Zamasu is no longer in his IZ form. He's just regular Fused Zamasu again
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He can just turn into it by getting his body destroyed like what happened in canon-
What can flash do to counter it?
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Note at the bottom says he could access the form still, though.
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Alright, but then IZ would lose his regular abilities as Fused Zamasu, and Fused Zamasu doesn't have his IZ abilities in his regular form
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Flash resists conceptual EE, the end of time erased the concept of death and is generally just that impressive in DC.
Hax
Barry should probably have that too scaling from Wally, not that I necessarily agree with him getting all of Wally's resistances even though that's currently the case essentially.
If it gets blown up or atomized or even beyond that?
Yeah cause it's not like Barry outranges him since 1986 or before that.
Wally (and thus Barry) resists due to limitless energy essentially. Unless Zamasu can drain the entire SF or something... which he probably lacks the range for since it should be 2-A^2.
Phase through it I guess, Wally could take on the same vibrational frequency of 5D beings, I guess that'll be enough. If not I'll have to argue Supes' heat vision or punches higher on the NPI scale.
So what stops Barry from speed stealing (no idea if that's in-character for PC Barry btw, heck I don't even know if he has it at this point despite what his page says)?
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Should I change it to Wally since his abilities are more well-defined in Post-Crisis?
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I can hardly argue PC Barry (and I doubt anyone else here can) and he shouldn't even be 2-A since he doesn't have Wally's feat of absorbing the entire SF. So that'd be a good idea cause all my arguments would otherwisely be "Wally did this and page says Barry can do it too".
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Changed it to Wally.
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Fixed it
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Following. Let's do the thing with the green pointy haired guy and the fast spandex boyo.
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Most times speed steal and other times punches but depends on who his fighting.
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(JLA #75, pg. 41) Absorbs the kinetic energy of the stresses the other heroes were putting on the planet as they were pulling it. Image
He can speed steal Zamasu from the starting distance tbh. Keep in mind that Zamasu can match Wally's speed here and he absorbed the entire SF into him which is a last resort type of deal, so he has no reason to hold back here.
He can speed steal Zamasu from the starting distance tbh. Keep in mind that Zamasu can match Wally's speed here and he absorbed the entire SF into him which is a last resort type of deal, so he has no reason to hold back here.
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the link is done did. also bump
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Link's illegal apparently, the image at the end of the line still works though.
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Of course Dragon Ball Fanfiction is winning
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it’s not like this match can be used anymore since “dragon ball fanfiction” is being downgraded
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DBH Downgrade? Where?
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Flash has a 2-C key (for now), just saying.
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No but you see Zamasu has this one ability that stops all multipliers and considering the Speed Force equation/formula which created the SF has multiplication in it. Zamasu clearly just nullifies the SF and stomps everything in DC that relies on it to move. ~Orange
