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Goku Black vs Bergamo

Bergamo at full strength is above Black because he clashed with Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken Goku Kamehameha, which is superior to Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta, which stomped Goku Black.
 
I did not said that Goku defeated Black, Vegeta did. If Goku was holding back he could have not used kaioken to defeat Bergamo and Goku wanted only to fight and not to please Zen'o.
 
Vegeta didn't defeat black he beat him pretty good than black got angry got his scythe and started to beat both Goku and Vegeta
 
Well black got another powerup after vegeta defeated him and the tables turned and also daishinkan warned goku if he holds back zeno will wipe out the universe immediatly
 
Bepo4151 said:
And started to beat both Goku and Vegeta.
Goku Black formed dozens of mist clones, which were starting overwhelm Goku and Vegeta, but not the original being and they could have won even in that situation.
 
Watch ep 64 again black said he will only fight goku and vegeta after zamasu kills bulma trunks and mai and enrage them he is confident he could take on enraged goku amd vegeta
 
Goku and Vegeta could have stomped Black, since they forced Black to fuse with Zamasu and shortly later Kaioken Goku was able to surprise and damage Fused Zamasu.
 
Goku and vegeta didnt force black to fuse it was because trunks used mafuba on zamasu but zamasu escaped and fused
 
No, it's because both Black and Zamasu knowed that if that they fought Goku and Vegeta, they would have lost, so they opted for the fusion, but Kaioken Goku and his kamehameha damaged and reduced him to his mutated form.
 
That's because of his personality, if he fought them he would have ended up defeated because Goku Black is weaker than Fusion Zamasu.
 
9then why didnt they defeat him they got owned by clones if they were powerful they would have defeated him faster black was also confident he could take on enraged goku and vegeta
 
Goku and Vegeta were destroying a lot of mist clones, but the fact they reformed and increased their numbers started to annoy and oppress Goku and Vegeta, but since they were able to survive a fight with Fusion Zamasu, it's obvious that they could have won that situation. Goku Black being confident means nothing since Fusion Zamasu lost a beam struggle against Trunks, Vegeta and Goku.
 
Ok this ones not as bad as the Toppo one but it's still bad.

Yes Bargamo manage to hold back power from SSBKK Post Black Arc Goku but we don't know by what at most it was x10KK but we no Black is stronger then SSB in his Rose form.

Bargamo may be able to turn the damage he takes into power but he becomes a bigger target and loses his speed, Black on the other hand gets stronger just like him but doesn't grow in size and actually gains speed, Black has a scythe that ignores durability and can create a portal that summons non stop clones who can all regenerate and lastly he possesses all of Goku's techniques.

Black wins as he is just a better Bargamo with better hax
 
Dark649 said:
Goku and Vegeta were destroying a lot of mist clones, but the fact they reformed and increased their numbers started to annoy and oppress Goku and Vegeta, but since they were able to survive a fight with Fusion Zamasu, it's obvious that they could have won that situation. Goku Black being confident means nothing since Fusion Zamasu lost a beam struggle against Trunks, Vegeta and Goku.
The only reason why zamasu lost the beam struggle was because of his iwn arrogance he thought himself as almighty and he didnt use enough energy to defeat the mortals he thought he didnt need to use more energy to defeat goku and vegeta
 
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