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No, of course he doesn't ovo.
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Gogeta Super Saiyan 4 runs the Super gauntlet.
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No statements said the mechanics of Dragon Ball varies in continuities. People legit used "dozens" of times from GT to justify how strong M12 Gogeta is & everyother metamoran smh.The Calaca said:
By your logic Super Saiyan is not 50× in every continuity.
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Not the same when you're talking about SS which was created before GT, and not 20 years later.
Super's Metamoru Fusion > Toei's Metamoru Fusion unless you have some evidence and not headcanon to support it.
Super's Metamoru Fusion > Toei's Metamoru Fusion unless you have some evidence and not headcanon to support it.
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U know Gotenks in Super & in Kai would still be an SSGSS×SSG increase lol
Metamoran was made years before GT & not 20 years later. But the timing is irrelevant. You either apply all forms as the same way or you don't. Until then with presupposition Meta is the same across continuities until stated otherwise just like Super Saiyan. You don't get to nitpick what stays the same or what's different buddy.
Metamoran was made years before GT & not 20 years later. But the timing is irrelevant. You either apply all forms as the same way or you don't. Until then with presupposition Meta is the same across continuities until stated otherwise just like Super Saiyan. You don't get to nitpick what stays the same or what's different buddy.
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We do if the continuities are completely different, especially when there's no implication of what you are talking about.
Not to mention that Gogeta is that powerful in Super because the components of the fusion are far above the God Tiers in GT, and can access their forms which are leagues above hen it comes to power up.
GoGTa has none of those and as such, can't scale to an alternate version of himself from a different setting and different scaling.
It's not that Metamoru > SSB. It's that SSB Metamoru > SSB individual. That's howthe fusion works.
Not to mention that Gogeta is that powerful in Super because the components of the fusion are far above the God Tiers in GT, and can access their forms which are leagues above hen it comes to power up.
GoGTa has none of those and as such, can't scale to an alternate version of himself from a different setting and different scaling.
It's not that Metamoru > SSB. It's that SSB Metamoru > SSB individual. That's howthe fusion works.
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Oh I see where you are confused. Actually Metamoran was shown shown in Base to be above SSGSS Goku. Godgeta was tanked by Semi Wrath form Broly. He completes Wrath & powers up more & Goku in Base is able to tango with him for a bit. This puts him no less than Godgeta bare minimum. Because Meta was stated to be A+A×C this puts Base Meta above SSGSS×SSG since SSGSS Goku ~ Broly < SS Broly < SS Gogeta thus Base Gogeta was stronger than SSGSS Goku if not arguably SS Broly level since he's dodging his blast without haste until Goku but of course that's just arguably so I would ride that arguement all the way.
So in conclusion we have a more direct Multiplier that says Meta > SSGSS×SSG
So in conclusion we have a more direct Multiplier that says Meta > SSGSS×SSG
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Maybe, but that works for Super Gogeta, not GoGTa.
Mainly because GT Goku and Vegeta are much weaker than their Super counterparts. And they don't scale to them either.
Meaning that in the end, even if we apply such thing to them (which I doubt), they would be overall for two factors:
Mainly because GT Goku and Vegeta are much weaker than their Super counterparts. And they don't scale to them either.
Meaning that in the end, even if we apply such thing to them (which I doubt), they would be overall for two factors:
- The components are way weaker.
- Multipliers can't let you jump from Tier 3 to Tier 2.
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Their power levels are irrelevant to the multiplier.
technically in Dragon Ball finite power is able to reach these infinite power tiers. Which actually explains why they can be outclassed by those of the same infinite power, limited speed, percentages, multipliers that still makes their infinite power level greater, limited lifting, etc etc. Basically if you reach a certain power level u can commit a certain feat. So mere comparison of calc scaling can make a character in DB just as strong as another even with greater feats but small calculations that lead up into those feats.
technically in Dragon Ball finite power is able to reach these infinite power tiers. Which actually explains why they can be outclassed by those of the same infinite power, limited speed, percentages, multipliers that still makes their infinite power level greater, limited lifting, etc etc. Basically if you reach a certain power level u can commit a certain feat. So mere comparison of calc scaling can make a character in DB just as strong as another even with greater feats but small calculations that lead up into those feats.
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Still not on a CRT to get a proper discussion.
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Multipliers are not recorded here. Let alone calc scaling.
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Meaning it can't be used.
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Uh no. Y'all just don't put in the work to make it happen. You'd just be inaccurate & under scaling characters. Y'all have maybe like a few multpliers here & there but not the entire set. So it's not that it can't be used.
Of cousre as a calc scaler we only work with bare minimums. No highballs allowed thus safe to use.
Try not stray away from the debate. I saw how you tried to sneak in rules & regulations even tho you took part in said non regulation discussion just to get away from argueing the topic at hand.
Of cousre as a calc scaler we only work with bare minimums. No highballs allowed thus safe to use.
Try not stray away from the debate. I saw how you tried to sneak in rules & regulations even tho you took part in said non regulation discussion just to get away from argueing the topic at hand.
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Excuse you? The only thing I said is that you need to follow our rules to apply what you think the profiles should have listed.
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I'm aware of that. It's just the rules were not the topic of debate between us in this thread. It was multipliers.The Calaca said:
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Hey pal!Mulgara said:
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We only accept two multipliers tho. SSJ1's and Kaio Ken's.
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Technically Super Saiyan Grade 1 is arguably not 50× when calculating the attacks used but there's a post on amino about it http://aminoapps.com/p/xt5fbv but it's all irrelevant to the discussion we were having initially.
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After learning some things, Gogeta ssj4 clears this list and possibly solos Super. GT scales from Buuhans vice shout, and nohring suggests it ISN'T a 4D feat, which would put him in the same tier as Infinite Zamasu. GT has base Goku break thru dimensional barriers in base and Super Babvy Vegeta 2 warping dimensions which blasted Goku outside of the entirety of U7.
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I can't tell if it's ironic or not.
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I ∞ percent agree with you!TheMerchant66 said:
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Broke: Buu Saga is part of Dragon Ball Z
Woke: Buu Saga only occurs in Dragon Ball GT
Woke: Buu Saga only occurs in Dragon Ball GT
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I ∞ percent agree with you!
No it's like this. Garlic can create a dimension thus having 4D aspects of Ki. Boohan has Universal AP like you said via Vice Shout Potency. That makes him Universal+ & everyone else in DBGT follows suite.
No it's like this. Garlic can create a dimension thus having 4D aspects of Ki. Boohan has Universal AP like you said via Vice Shout Potency. That makes him Universal+ & everyone else in DBGT follows suite.
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Lmao
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Can someone close this? This has massively derailed from the main topic and isntead become a wank fest.
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