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Godzilla possibly Upgrade!
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ZeedKZ proposed to add a new key for Godzilla's 4th dimensional or also called True form. This key is the one merging the timelines, so the 2-B feat doesn't scales to Ultima.
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I love it!I think the following warrantes Disease manipulation to Godzilla Ultima:
Archetype aka Red Dust is also stated and shown to be outright toxic to living beings of our dimension, causing breathing issues, and eventual death.
And the second upgrade is a BIG one to Universe level+
All duly supported in this blog of mine.
Before continue I should note that is absolutely necessary people here to read my blog. It explains at detail how Godzilla works as a singularity and what he can do with the Red Dust and the Archetype.
Take your time to read it before continue.
But in short the explanation is that:
Archetype
Archetype is a molecule from a higher dimensional plane of existence. This allows time and space bending properties that flat out break laws of physics of our universe.
Archetype is shown to trap light and energy in itself, all the wile increasing the energy trapped till exploding. This is stated done by pulling photons of the future into the present.
Archetype is stated able to bend time, space, and laws of physics.
Archetype in large amounts make unidentifiable bio matter whose presence alone bend space, and alter bio organic matter in vicinity.
Godzilla is a singularity that can destroy the universe.
Archetype and Godzilla as a singularity shows the future and all possible futures lead to the end of the universe abruptly. Where the future ceases to exist.
Archetype pouring into our planet again stated would alter the earth in such a way to resemble hell, and then flat out deny existence to the universe.
The Archetype leading to the end of our universe is describe more due to time paradox were time is re written and everything after does not exist.
Thoughts?
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You need to read my blog... seriously like you're definitely ignoring a lot of stuff and all that info is already on my blog.
Godzilla and all the kaiju in Singular Point come from a 4th Dimensional space. BB on episode 8 explained the users of the Archetype aka the monsters are merely a shadow of their true selves that reside on Higher-Dimensional space.
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The Archetype is made by the kaiju and they're 4D
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That doesn't mean that they have a 2-B true form
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The True form is 4D and is that form the one making the timelines merge into one.
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The true form still shouldn't have 2-B stats. Rather, 2-B ap
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2-B AP... ok.
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Yeah cause durability/striking strength would be unreasonable as he never tanked 2-B attacks and never struck with 2-B force.
Anyways could you show me the exact scan that proves 2-B? Cause otherwise it will be 2-C
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It's some comments above....
It mentioned a million universes
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- The point of Godzilla being higher-dimensional is more implied in episode 1, which is full of Ashihara's material which studies the Singular Points, it mentions non-euclidian geometry, dimensional topology, category theory and abstract algebra. Since Godzilla's plot is being a ontological paradox, the answer exists even before it were made.
- The Singular Points can be understood as higher-dimensional structures that are manifesting it in our dimension, like atoms which in some theories, are higher-dimensional objects. Apex's blog pretty much supports this.
- Attempts to foresee the every possible outcome to how they're going to defeat Godzilla, the result is always the same. This is, again due to his paradox existence. The ontological paradox proposes that some events or objects are not created in time and space, but instead they are constant eternals. This is really similar to Kamen Rider Decade, his fate cannot be normally changed because he is always destinated to be that, it is like the "6=9" plot, existence itself twists the fate and turns it into a sealed tape.
- This scene explains of how the Godzilla we see is nothing compared to its true form, it is literally an analogy of higher-dimensional beings and Singular Points. In the same scene with Japanese subs, it describes as an angle from a higher dimension. "高次元" means "higher dimension".
- Godzilla's true form itself is a transtemporal phenomenon (supported by Apex's blog), it should be at least transcendent to the concept of linear time.
- Something that is really interesting, it is heavily implied that Godzilla's true form is larger than our universe. This is supported in the original JP sub of the same scene, "成長し続けた神が宇宙よりも大きくなって" to "A god that kept growing and growing, and became bigger than the universe."
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Thanks for these scans, I'm gonna add them to the blog and give you the respective credit for them.
So this warrantes Resistance to Fate Manipulation, Large Size Type 8 and confirms again he has a "True Form" that scales to merging three billion universes/timelines..
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I clearly wrote Resistance to Fate Manipulation..
Certanly you need to be very careful when reading the stuff ZeedKZ and me posted here.
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All these powers are for "The True Form", right?
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Okay
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i don't care i am wondering where did any relation to fate come from? Fate is a more spiritual, non mathematical thing, Godzilla would simply resist clairvoyance. Maybe have some form of acausality.
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It is not clairvoyance since all of the outcomes were successfully viewed, however they cannot change the outcome, as I said before like, 3 times. The whole Godzilla's plot is being a ontological paradox which inherently gives him resistance to fate abilities just like Decade.
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There are multiple types of paradoxes, what belongs to Godzilla is linked to him being him, it doesn't stop them to see what is going to happen, his fate cannot be normally changed because he is always destinated to be that. He is like 6=9, his own existence twists fate and turns it into a sealed tape.
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I believe Acausality Type 4 for his true form, he is treated as an entity who is unbound by our very laws of the universe, when we speak about cause and effect, we speak about purity grades, only beings of the highest order (i.e. transcendent beings) exist outside it completely.
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Godzilla's true form should also have a form of Abstract Existence, when they talk about mythical creatures, most of these creatures are hypothetical, abstract (Ashihara studied abstract algebra to understand the Singular Point), they live in people's imaginations, but hypothetically it means that they cannot be refuted by the falsifiability principle.
Let's take a example, we're discussing the creation of the universe. X says that the Big Bang created the universe, and Y says that it was God.
You cannot use science to refute God because science starts by the falsifiability principle and it cannot refute God while a metaphysical existence, can discuss the physical implications of God, but never God's metaphysics.
Let's take a example, we're discussing the creation of the universe. X says that the Big Bang created the universe, and Y says that it was God.
You cannot use science to refute God because science starts by the falsifiability principle and it cannot refute God while a metaphysical existence, can discuss the physical implications of God, but never God's metaphysics.
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Godzilla Ultima
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Oof this Godzilla is really gonna end very broken
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This seems fine
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Seems ok. Nothing seems to stick out as wrong, though, I wonder about Fate
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I might need to look at it in more depth later.
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