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Godzilla possibly Upgrade!
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Looks fine to me.
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Ok. I'm gonna apply the updates then..
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I've applied the changes but I think your english is way better than mine so maybe you wanna correct minor things?
Godzilla (Godzilla Singular Point)
Godzilla (ゴジラ Gojira) is a kaiju who appears in the 2021 Toho animated series, Godzilla Singular Point. He began life as a fully aquatic creature, Godzilla Aquatilis (ゴジラアクアティリス), who was first teased in episode 3 of the series and later appeared unobscured in episode 6. Aquatilis evolves into a...
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If Godzilla is apparentaly beyond time, wouldn't that make him Immeasurable?
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When I made the profile I thought his name was Godzilla Ultima... like Shin Godzilla or Godzilla Earth. XD
But you can request this in the all purpose request thread.
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what about this?
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Beyond time and space don't grant immeasurable last I checked
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Shouldn't Godzilla's True form have Multiversal durability and Striking strength?
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No, he can cause all the timelines to fuse together via ap but he's never struck anyone with the power to do so and he has never tanked anything on that level of power. He should only have 2-B ap.
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Uwah! Nice thread! I have planned to make some revisions too since I ended the anime. To be exact, Godzilla's nature as singularity on topological scale which implied to be a being who would destroy the universe that include macrocosm of higher dimension is a possibly for that rating. But I can't say for sure, because the potential of Universe destruction is because of enviromental effects.
And if you think the last episode of Godzilla S.P could be considered as Godzilla resetting timeline, I won't say that. Because, the factor that actually happen is about Jet Jaguar that become a neutralize for Godzilla's singularity effect.
I agree with all of abillities and resistance. But disagree for Multiversal Tier.
And if you think the last episode of Godzilla S.P could be considered as Godzilla resetting timeline, I won't say that. Because, the factor that actually happen is about Jet Jaguar that become a neutralize for Godzilla's singularity effect.
I agree with all of abillities and resistance. But disagree for Multiversal Tier.
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the multviersal tier is based on the fact that godzilla CAN completely manipulate and merge millions to billions of timelines into one
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Well I can argue for that to be:
1. It's a potential that can be thwarted (the last episode could be evidence for this too).
2. The series has many metaphors that we cannot take it in raw. Even Godzilla's attack potency for now hasn't reach planet level.
3. It's a possibly rating and we have yet seen it's full credibelity.
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I know. But I still disagree because of it's metaphorism.
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what? it is the literal calculation of the future made using SHIVA that Godzilla's whole thing is that he'll mix a bunch of timelines together and ruin the whole thing. there is no metaphorism
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anyways seeing your arguments it feels like you are either extremely new here or don't get the whole thing at all.
Just because some attack was thwarted doesn't mean it wouldn't happen. If your punch can bust up a planet but someone blocks it with a shield doesn't mean that it will stop being planet level.
Just because some attack was thwarted doesn't mean it wouldn't happen. If your punch can bust up a planet but someone blocks it with a shield doesn't mean that it will stop being planet level.
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They weren't metaphors though... we're talking about scientists who are basically geniuses doing a calculation on a Super Calculator that is also a Singular Point that shows three billion of futures being merged by Godzilla's True Form.
The Catastrophe was gonna destroy the universe, otherwise why would geniuses of around the world be trying to stop at all cost a metaphor?
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Why should we have to?
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That is a huge mistake.. Jet Jaguar didn't neutralized Godzilla's singularity effect...
Our heroes prevent the Catastrophe by creating their own Singular Point in Jet Jaguar. As the amalgamation of multiple timelines stretching back 50 years, it "cuts off" all timelines where the Catastrophe happens by rendering all red dust inert at a single point in time.
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He never used 2-B attacks, just affected the timelines in a 2-B manner
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Nay, I can understand your point clearly senpai. What I want to emphasize here is about the existence of Godzilla which is still developing and has not fulfilled the singularity narrative about the destruction of the universe.
Because we know that this singularity creates a red dust that surrounds the surrounding area so that nature is destroyed. Which means we can conclude that in order to create a large-scale singularity-- universe scale, Godzilla would have to produce Red Dust of that size as well.
This is because of the Kaiju's existential paradox with the laws of physics that require a new particle from another (higher dimension) universe and creating red dust to defy our dimensional space/time laws, potentially manifesting forms to them because they are extradimensional beings (kaiju).
In episode 7, it is said that S.P creates red dust (basic archetype), and in episode 8, they explain that Singular Points function as Super Dimensional Calculators that can process large amounts of information and defy time/space, and are also manifestations of their universe itself (Which intersects with our universe).
The metaphor I mean can be seen in the sentence "Let's your soul stand cool and composed before a million universe." - The sentence can be interpreted as a readiness to overcome the singularity that will be generated by Godzilla. Regarding Shiva's calculations, I understand it more as a form of calculation and a "hyperbole" that any rational calculation that exists to prevent the singularity will end up failing.
This does not mean that the calculation confirms the existence of pluralists from Multiversal scale who are experiencing the same crisis, but rather a form of hypothesis to overcome the singularity point. If I had to guess, they mentioned that it's like a black hole. The implications of this can be seen in Episode 8.
S.P's words are reminiscent of an information singularity-- perhaps Godzilla grew so far apart that it became a singularity that collapses our existence into itself, effectively erasing our universe by consuming it.
And, this is already being done in Episode 12/13 - dimensional fields are warped and geometry is being deformed, just as high gravitational forces can physically bend the fabric of space-time. This is according to a scan of the thread on the evolution of Godzilla.
But it didn't materialize which made me disapprove of the "Multiverse Level" rating. Rather than the multiversal tier which I think is so exaggerated, I'm more likely to accept the Universe+ tier as a possibility. This is because throughout the series Godzilla is always narrated as a creature who will destroy the universe.
No. The problem is that attack that you mean isn't yet achieve the level of such Tier. That mean when it deflected, it's attack can't be considered as the end-result. That's why it should be considered as a possiblity and it is easy enough to disprove.
An example for this would be like when C charging a magic attack to destroy the city but soon before it ready, it had been thwarted at the start. It's destruction rate will be greatly reduced as the focus of it's energy development is disrupted. The case of Godzilla is the same as this.
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Yes. I didn't explain it in detail before. The intended neutralization effect is the result of the Orthogonal Diagonalizer which contains another version of the archetype that can disable red dust.
Not multiple timeline. But it did produce a blue crystals at the end. In episode 13 that is also a form of Archetype, and is the result of a "completed" OD (the red crystals are the prototype of the blue crystals, essentially). These blue crystals are stable and permanent, unlike the red crystals, which destabilize and revert to red dust after some time. Transforming the red dust into red or blue crystals neutralizes the physics breaking effects of the red dust, which is why the OD is the lynchpin to defeating the kaiju, who seem to rely on the red dust to alter reality and manifest themselves.
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The 2-B is actually based on the scans Apex provided above showing multiple timelines twisting into one point
it is also based on the fact that there were 3 billion+ timelines diverging in the final episodes causing Pelops to overload
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I have seen every scans actually. But I can't really find the Multiversal context others than point of metaphors that I have explained above and the calculation to prevent Singularity which should just be a "hypothesis" instead of being true. Because of such mathematical calculations, they are only "possible" rather than immediately real.
In short, can I see the others scan for support the Multiverse Level?
In short, can I see the others scan for support the Multiverse Level?
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