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Nolmao wait, dosent bde 2 basically mean arcues is 1a?
Well even after bde is revised, type 2 basically seems like 1a.I am under the impression that BDE is not related to tiers and if so then I would be completely against it.
Well even if it is not tier based, what would you require to interact with bde 2? 1a range, or some other ability?
So even High 3-A characters can qualify.These characters aren't necessarily superior to spacetime on every level, but just within the scope which they are shown
Hmmph? How does BDE make you harder to interact with. I was under the impression it only makes you immune to space-time hax for type 2Well even if it is not tier based, what would you require to interact with bde 2? 1a range, or some other ability?
Well even after bde is revised, type 2 basically seems like 1a.
Neither the type nor the ability itself specifies that it relates to tier 1 specifically. So seems fine atm.Type 2: Characters whose nature is defined by lacking spatiotemporal features and being superior to them in nature. These characters aren't necessarily superior to spacetime on every level, but just within the scope which they are shown. Due to transcending this spacetime they are immune to Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation of it. They furthermore inherit any benefits of Type 1.
Well even if it is not tier based, what would you require to interact with bde 2? 1a range, or some other ability?
Nothing moreDue to transcending this spacetime they are immune to Spatial Manipulation and Time Manipulation of it. They furthermore inherit any benefits of Type 1.
I guess that makes sense.Neither the type nor the ability itself specifies that it relates to tier 1 specifically. So seems fine atm.
Nothing more
Yuri & DT clearly rejected Transduality... The only thing that was not concretely rejected is BDE.
@QuasiYuriI know, as I said previously they have rejected everything more than once although there seems to be a small exception with BDE. If I had to decide then only BDE could be applied here, although I don't know what type it would be (seems to be type 2). But it is not up to me to decide so I will leave it up to a staff member.
Quasi probably won't be returning, but agrees to what DonTalk said
I agree with him tbh, granting a character td just because he predates a concept is too 'vague? ( can't remember a proper term. )"TD is inapplicable. Even if they were predating the concepts of spacetime (which is conjecture at best) that wouldn't imply transduality. Tranduality is about being in a logically paradox state, which a lack of a concept isn't indicating.
That's why someone like Noah doesn't have it despite predating literally every Type 1 concept of the multiverse."
That's what DonTalk said
No. Arceus is like discount Swirl Of Root. The entire reality are just extensions of his being and he transcends them altogether, existing outside of it and it's systems. unless the fact that they both are a part of him is a anti-feat.
1. Still disagree with regeneration for reasons said.
2. NEP clearly deosn't pass our requirements in the slightest. Proof of complete physical nonexistence has to be given to have it and we have more than enough proof of a lack of complete physical nonexistence. Whether or not the matter behaves weirdly is of no consequence here. Neither that it was a riddle, especially since the distortion world in other non-related depictions (e.g. anime and manga) isn't a complete void either.
3. TD is inapplicable. Even if they were predating the concepts of spacetime (which is conjecture at best) that wouldn't imply transduality. Tranduality is about being in a logically paradox state, which a lack of a concept isn't indicating.
That's why someone like Noah doesn't have it despite predating literally every Type 1 concept of the multiverse.
4. This would be fine if the components it grants aren't contradicted. Wasn't timetravel successfully used against Arceus in the Pokémon movie?
So is somebody who knows what they are doing willing to apply what our staff have decided here please?Quasi probably won't be returning, but agrees to what DonTalk said
DontTalk's agrees. He did have an issue with contradictions but it was resolved.
Gyro Agrees to TD and BDE. But TD is rejected so BDE remains
Overall, they'd likely not return.
BDE at least, looks good to go
You could ping others, Or just close the thread. It's up to you I guess.....
I just want us to draw to a conclusion.Unlike the other Pokémon crts that are ready to go on for another decade
after seeing the attempts on Anos' life i don't trust free editsI asked, but in any case I am keeping an eye on it.
Just Arceus, and the thread can be closed.Can somebody link to all of the Pokemon pages that need to be locked here please?