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God Tier 0 (Seekers into the Mystery)

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Ultima_Reality said:
Is that comic related to Seekers?
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It’s creator-owned by DeMatteis. It follows the life of an angel, where God is the director, and the movie playing is Creation. It mentions layers of dreams, that God comes in many forms mainly Krishna, and that God was nameless.

It's not really connected to Seekers, but it follows the same premise, essentially. It's like Seekers was intended for God to the projectionist to a play, while Last One is more so director to a movie. Regardless, I think a Cosmology blog could be made for that as well.
 
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VeryGoofyToddler said:
It’s creator-owned by DeMatteis. It follows the life of an angel, where God is the director, and the movie playing is Creation. It mentions layers of dreams, that God comes in many forms mainly Krishna, and that God was nameless.

It's not really connected to Seekers, but it follows the same premise, essentially. It's like Seekers was intended for God to the projectionist to a play, while Last One is more so director to a movie. Regardless, I think a Cosmology blog could be made for that as well.
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Yeah, so, scans from it shouldn't be used for Seekers, of course.

I suppose I could read that and make a thread for it later. Seems DeMatteis really is basically the cheat code to getting a Tier 0 verse.
 
Well, DeMatteis continuously bases his stories on how he understands real world spirituality as a disciple of the Enlightened Satguru Meher Baba.

Regardless, I think that your suggested profile page draft seems fine to apply. 🙏
 
God should also have light and fire/heat manipulation.
Issue # 13, P. 12
The Magician's the one who's interested in ripping the truth out of you... In stripping the layers of dreams and dragging you into a light that's so bright--it will blind you and burn you alive.
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You also kinda forgot that god also should have transduality/nondualism
And nonexistence physiology/life physiology? (For being nothing but also everything all at once).
 
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Gasper said:
God should also have light and fire/heat manipulation.
Issue # 13, P. 12


You also kinda forgot that god also should have transduality/nondualism
And nonexistence physiology/life physiology? (For being nothing but also everything all at once).
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The power page called "Nonduality"'s current relation with Tier 0 is only nominal, so I left it out. Tier 0s for all intents and purposes are beyond NEP and that's technically already covered by Omnipotence and justified by the AP alone.

Light Manipulation and Fire Manipulation are obviously metaphorical in that instance, so like, yeah. I mean, God can no doubt control fire and light, but if we start listing all possible effects of a Tier 0 character's omnipotence on their profiles we'd be in for a very redundant task.
 
Ultima_Reality said:
The power page called "Nonduality"'s current relation with Tier 0 is only nominal, so I left it out. Tier 0s for all intents and purposes are beyond NEP and that's technically already covered by Omnipotence and justified by the AP alone.

Light Manipulation and Fire Manipulation are obviously metaphorical in that instance, so like, yeah. I mean, God can no doubt control fire and light, but if we start listing all possible effects of a Tier 0 character's omnipotence on their profiles we'd be in for a very redundant task.
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I see. However, doesn't Acasuality type 5 also became redundant?
Tier 0 needs to be unchangeable in the first place.
 
Grabbing_dragon said:
that does not make him Acasuality type 5 your just saying he has it due to being tier 0 .
it said on that Acasuality type 5 feats he has shown
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Did you even read multiple quotes linked on his profile explaining everything or are you just going to ignorantly ignore all of that?
 
Ultima_Reality said:
A being that is eternal in the sense of "lasting forever" doesn't exist in the state described in the scan. "Eternal Now" indicates that 'before' and 'after' outright don't exist to him.
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Ok understand doesn't this also mean platonic forms have Acasuality type 5
this is the reason why i was asking
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Acausality type 5 question

https://vsbattles.com/threads/acausality-type-5-checklist.154606/ If a character predates spacetime itself and is eternal, wouldn't he,she be independent causality and unchangeable? Causality, events, and change depend on time.
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Ultima_Reality said:
The power page called "Nonduality"'s current relation with Tier 0 is only nominal, so I left it out. Tier 0s for all intents and purposes are beyond NEP and that's technically already covered by Omnipotence and justified by the AP alone.

Light Manipulation and Fire Manipulation are obviously metaphorical in that instance, so like, yeah. I mean, God can no doubt control fire and light, but if we start listing all possible effects of a Tier 0 character's omnipotence on their profiles we'd be in for a very redundant task.
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Would you also make a profile for Maya and Lucas Hart?
 
Gasper said:
Can this be applied now?
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Tier 0 transcends the concept of “now!”

Anyway, I believe the profile can be updated. I don't think we need to be too fixated on this topic since Seekers isn't large and I don't think an actual agreement would take place for the ratings. I talked with Ultima a while on Seekers Cosmology and at the very least the profile of God seems pretty cut and clear. Moving on from this would be great since there are more threads to be focused on since Seekers isn't everyone's cup of tea and I trust Ultima's judgment.
 
I agree with God being tier 0, but the magician is God in human form, I see no reason why it is High 1A since the entire purpose of tier 0 is that it cannot be watered down.
 
PrinceofPein said:
I agree with God being tier 0, but the magician is God in human form, I see no reason why it is High 1A since the entire purpose of tier 0 is that it cannot be watered down.
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Magician is God in a dream not in an actual human-flash form.
 
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I think a Tier 0 can have lower tier avatars/emanations without being an anti-feat. The best example I can think of is the God and its Aeons from Gnosticism (and other religions)
 
Ovy7 said:
I think a Tier 0 can have lower tier avatars/emanations without being an anti-feat. The best example I can think of is the God and its Aeons from Gnosticism (and other religions
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Yes, they are saying that Magician shouldn't be High 1-A+ because he's just an avatar.
If I understood that correctly, which isn't really true.
 
Ovy7 said:
I think a Tier 0 can have lower tier avatars/emanations without being an anti-feat. The best example I can think of is the God and its Aeons from Gnosticism (and other religions)
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As far as I know Tier 0 can create their own avatars, but the main point is that these avatars cannot communicate or interact with or go near to tier 0 being in any way.

Because there is no concept of "any place" for this being, it cannot be called "anything" because it lacks of all qualities and it is also superior/greater to them all. But of course Ultima knows better about it
 
Georredannea15 said:
As far as I know Tier 0 can create their own avatars, but the main point is that these avatars cannot communicate or interact with or go near to tier 0 being in any way.

Because there is no concept of "any place" for this, it cannot be called "anything" because it lacks of all qualities and it is also superior/greater to them all. But of course Ultima knows better about it
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And that's certainly not the case here.
 
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