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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

Tyranno223 said:
That doesn't sound right. Thor is near equal to Ragnarok Kratos in raw strength. If the gap between his full power and bloodlust is not massive, there's no way he could equal Starkdar in strength.
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Serious Ragnarok Kratos. Bloodlusted Ragnarok Kratos would be equal to his GoW3 Pre-Hope self in terms of physicals.

As per our current scaling chain...

Bloodlusted Ragnarok Kratos (Bloodlusted) = Endgame GoW3 Pre-Hope Kratos > Endgame GoW3 Post-Amp Zeus > Endgame GoW3 Pre-Amp Zeus >= Odin (Overall package) > Serious Ragnarok Kratos (Not Bloodlusted) = Freya > Thor = Hercules (Debatable) > Brother Kings

Tyranno223 said:
Thor absolutely refused to fight the giant due to his might (while being willing to fight Kratos after already witnessing his enraged state), suggesting a gigantic gap.
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Kratos was already holding back on his rage and mollywhopped Thor with nothing but a slight strength edge and significantly more combat skill. Take the gap up a few people and you can see where this goes. Like yeah, it's not one-shot big, but it's still quite noticeable to have a decisive effect.

Tyranno223 said:
Doesn't change the fact Kratos outhaxes, but he shouldn't physically match him.
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Bloodlusted Kratos already scales a bunch above the other heavy hitters of the verse, who in turn scale above Thor, and then there are the power creeps that Kratos and Zeus undergo in the final legs of GoW3 barring the Great Evils and Hope, whom absolutely no one scale to. At the very least, Starkadr would end up being of similar power to GoW3 Kratos, but slightly weaker, while the former would have a significant combat skill and mobility advantage plus far greater versatility even without hax, the AD and RE would eventually cause Kratos to jump to one-shot territory within seconds flat and it wouldn't even be a fight anymore.
 
KLOL506 said:
Serious Ragnarok Kratos. Bloodlusted Ragnarok Kratos would be equal to his GoW3 Pre-Hope self in terms of physicals.

As per our current scaling chain...

Bloodlusted Ragnarok Kratos (Bloodlusted) = Endgame GoW3 Pre-Hope Kratos > Endgame GoW3 Post-Amp Zeus > Endgame GoW3 Pre-Amp Zeus >= Odin (Overall package) > Serious Ragnarok Kratos (Not Bloodlusted) = Freya > Thor = Hercules (Debatable) > Brother Kings


Kratos was already holding back on his rage and mollywhopped Thor with nothing but a slight strength edge and significantly more combat skill. Take the gap up a few people and you can see where this goes. Like yeah, it's not one-shot big, but it's still quite noticeable to have a decisive effect.


Bloodlusted Kratos already scales a bunch above the other heavy hitters of the verse, who in turn scale above Thor, and then there are the power creeps that Kratos and Zeus undergo in the final legs of GoW3 barring the Great Evils and Hope, whom absolutely no one scale to. At the very least, Starkadr would end up being of similar power to GoW3 Kratos, but slightly weaker, while the former would have a significant combat skill and mobility advantage plus far greater versatility even without hax, the AD and RE would eventually cause Kratos to jump to one-shot territory within seconds flat and it wouldn't even be a fight anymore.
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I think saying that he'd grow to one-shot levels within seconds is a big exaggeration.
 
The thing is, Kratos passively grows stronger every second with his God Of War powers, especially as he fights and he already has a slight headstart.

So maybe it's an exaggeration, but it's not inaccurate.
 
Eseseso said:
I think saying that he'd grow to one-shot levels within seconds is a big exaggeration.
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Nope. It happens right in the novel, where the Colossus brought to life with his powers was literally stated to be passively growing stronger, faster and more capable with every passing moment. That's just for him doing absolutely nothing. The effects are considerably maximized with him being in combat.

It's a hefty advantage he has over Zeus' AD, problem is, Zeus' AD, while relatively slow, gives him much bigger gains as compared to Kratos, hence explaining why he was able to straight up stalemate the God of War (Even with the latter having Hades' soul in hand) in the final stages of the GoW3 ending fight.

Heck, his GoW power growth already trumps that of his Demigod and Norse selves, the latter being able to turn the fight around against Baldur within seconds, albeit it's degraded considerably because of his old Godly magic having gone kaput and what have you.
 
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KLOL506 said:
Nope. It happens right in the novel, where the Colossus brought to life with his powers was literally stated to be passively growing stronger, faster and more capable with every passing moment. That's just for him doing absolutely nothing. The effects are considerably maximized with him being in combat.

It's a hefty advantage he has over Zeus' AD, problem is, Zeus' AD, while relatively slow, gives him much bigger gains as compared to Kratos, hence explaining why he was able to straight up stalemate the God of War (Even with the latter having Hades' soul in hand) in the final stages of the GoW3 ending fight.
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GODDAMN NOVELS.
 
Planck69 said:
KLOL try not to wank AD challenge (Impossible)

Kratos power growth is very great but no, he's not Saitama or smth.
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Seethe, bask in the glory of the God of War

Saitama's power growth is way faster and has bigger gains anyway, far, far beyond the one-shot gap on first try alone. Not like he'll get to High 3-A with that anytime soon.
 
Speaking of AD, it's actually hilarious how Saitama and Kratos have the most straightforward showcases of AD in their respective places of said showcases.

Kratos' is text-based but direct and blatant. Saitama's literally just shows a graph chart which is visually more recognizeable. But if Saitama wasn't there to show it, it'd be pretty ironic to see Kratos' example get accepted on the AD page just for kicks.
 
KLOL506 said:
Speaking of AD, it's actually hilarious how Saitama and Kratos have the most straightforward showcases of AD in their respective places of said showcases.

Kratos' is text-based but direct and blatant. Saitama's literally just shows a graph chart which is visually more recognizeable. But if Saitama wasn't there to show it, it'd be pretty ironic to see Kratos' example get accepted on the AD page just for kicks.
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Planck69 said:
KLOL try not to wank AD challenge (Impossible)

Kratos power growth is very great but no, he's not Saitama or smth.
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Fools, Kirby has better development than either!

Not really, but in RtDL he went from needing the Super Abilities (which before Magolor were vastly stronger than his normal abilities) to break Magolor's Super Shield to his normal copy abilities easily matching a stronger Magolor who had the same Super Abilities as Kirby.
 
Sonic has cracked AD too.

He gets stronger off from not doing anything for 6 months, his power tends to jump x2 and even x6 in the course of an adventure, he jumped from 5-A to 4-A in the span of a Game, etc.
 
BlastX said:
Sonic has cracked AD too.

He gets stronger off from not doing anything for 6 months, his power tends to jump x2 and even x6 in the course of an adventure, he jumped from 5-A to 4-A in the span of a Game, etc.
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That's a good argument, but have you considered that Kirby is just better?

Ask the 2022 GOTY Awards.
 
Why would you want the invulnerability curse? it sucks bc there literally won't be no game and remember the part were heimdall called freya "ms.mistletoe" anyone?
 
KLOL506 said:
Dante lurking in the corner somewhere but Tony is absent
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I was playing God Of War 1 and I noticed that Kratos went to the underworld with just his soul and that this time he wasn't taken with his whole body, but only his soul, after that we see him leaving from the underworld and he left with just his soul or we can suggest that he regenerated his body upon leaving the underworld
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I was playing God Of War 1 and I noticed that Kratos went to the underworld with just his soul and that this time he wasn't taken with his whole body, but only his soul, after that we see him leaving from the underworld and he left with just his soul or we can suggest that he regenerated his body upon leaving the underworld
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I honestly don't know. Underworld works wacky sometimes.
 
KLOL506 said:
I honestly don't know. Underworld works wacky sometimes.
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Indeed, in the description it is described that Kratos' soul was thrown into the underworld, after that I think it would be possible to upgrade to a regeneration

almost at the end talks


If we look at the book which is more detailed does it not mention that Kratos had his body regenerated?
 
LuffyRuffy46307 said:
I was playing God Of War 1 and I noticed that Kratos went to the underworld with just his soul and that this time he wasn't taken with his whole body, but only his soul, after that we see him leaving from the underworld and he left with just his soul or we can suggest that he regenerated his body upon leaving the underworld
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I think it needs more than that, honestly.
 
I really don't think kratos catches up to heimdall's foresight as the red bar stays red even on the second phase of his fight and giving that the entire point of the spear is to overload his senses, yeah I don't he was using it.
 
in what way did he catch up to his intution and foresight cuss the only time I remember is when he hit his bracelet.
 
Chianli said:
I really don't think kratos catches up to heimdall's foresight as the red bar stays red even on the second phase of his fight and giving that the entire point of the spear is to overload his senses, yeah I don't he was using it.
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The red bar is there to prevent you from triggering his stun state.
 
What Diamentus said. It's not as if stunning him did Kratos any favors since Heimdall still recovered far too fast for it to actually take effect for long enough. We know for a fact that Heimdall eventually becomes completely unable to read Kratos' mind by the time the first leg of the fight is done. He was also completely unable to read Kratos' intention to use the Spear the way he did for the entire fight itself.
 
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Considerating the conceptual Absorption onlt shown working on thanatos do we have every olypiam With like conceptual Absorption or there is context i am missing?
 
KLOL506 said:
I mean, they do become embodiments in case they defeat or kill their predecessor, case in point, Cronos and Zeus. But they don't necessarily have to absorb the concept into them for it to take effect.
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Okay i worded bad
Meant why kratos doesn't seemingly absorb the olympians concepts which is why things get ****** uo when Olympians die
 
Because while Kratos can't control the Conceptual aspect of his Absorption, he can still decide whether or not to absorb in the first place. In most of the Olympian's cases, he just didn't see the need to absorb them completely, he wanted nothing to do with the domains that the other Gods had control over. There's no "passing over" bullshit happening here, hence that's why the Greek World goes apeshit when each of the Gods die.
 
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