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Introduction
Another God of War CRT i made. Hopefully, this one will go as smoothly as possible.

Redeemed Warrior
  • Fire Manipulation (with Blade of Ares, Lance of Ares, capable of creating Wave of Fire, Flamethrower)
  • Life Manipulation (Gaining life with every encounter)
  • Statistics Amplification (with Lance of Ares, has an aura that increases physical attack power)
  • Magic, which consists of:
  • Fire Manipulation (via Flame of Barrier, is able to create a flame barrier, and his physical attack is buffed for a short time)
  • Explosion Manipulation (via Incineration, unleash an explosion on the enemies)
  • Accelerated Development (via Relic of Determination, gain Magic and Physical damage overtime, and each attack improves skill and power)
  • Forcefield Creation (via Eye of the Wolf, Protects against incoming attacks by creating a protective barrier)
  • Statistics Amplification (via Ares’ Fury, Physical and Defence Power are greatly increased)
  • Healing and Damage Boost (via Battle Horn of Restoration, restore health and increase the weapon's power)
  • Soul Manipulation (able to crush/cleave/summon/strip souls)
  • Curse Manipulation and Pain Manipulation (the Scythe Lance’s cursed foes with eternal pain of the Underworld, Send a wave of souls that curse all enemies)
  • Corruption (the Soul of the dead can be used to corrupt an environment)
  • Life Manipulation (with Blade of Hades, has the ability to drain the health of the living)
  • Portal Creation (with Gauntlets of Hades, can perform Portal-Attacks)
  • Teleportation (with Maul of Hades, Allows for teleporting attacks against the nearest enemy)
  • Magic, which consists of:
  • Life Manipulation (via Life Steal and Desecration, strip an enemy's life and steal the life of the enemy, who got hit by the Arms)
  • Soul Manipulation (via Desecration, enables him to summon the rotting arms of tortured souls from Tartarus)
  • Selective Intangibility (via Wraith Fang, turning into a mist and anyone who gets too close will have their health drained)
  • Invicibility (via Hades’s Helm, can become Invisible)
  • Status Effect Inducement and Curse Manipulation (via Death’s Wail, Stunned and cursed all nearby enemies with an energy Shockwave)
  • Accelerated Development (gaining physical strength when one's health is low, increasing speed after using Magic)
Blade of Olympus
Ability Addition
Ability Removal
Currently, Blade of Olympus has Conceptual Manipulation based on; affecting Hope itself and releasing Hope from Kratos into the world.

For starters, it was Kratos’ power, not the Blade’s. According to the profile, he performs Conceptual Manipulation by Channeling “Hope” to any weapon he employs (Is capable of using Hope as a weapon)

Summing up it can be said that the Blade of Olympus didn’t affecting “Hope” it’s Kratos’s own doing. This, of course, would remove its Conceptual Manipulation.
 
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Death Manipulation (with Blade of Zeus, Scorched by the Flames of Olympus, which kills anyone who touches it instantly, even Pandora, a being who is neither alive nor dead)
Isn't this negate immo 5 too
For starters, it was Kratos’ power, not the Blade’s. According to the profile, he performs Conceptual Manipulation by Channeling “Hope” to any weapon he employs (Is capable of using Hope as a weapon)
He can use hope as weapon, but not sure he can releazing hope from his body. I think is the ability of that blade it self

Btw i agree with this
 
Not really, no? Pandora is definitely bound by death
In kratos' profile he gets immo 5 negation from that
Immortality Negation (Type 5 and 8; Is capable of bypassing Fear Zeus' immortality, and is far superior in potency than the Flame of Olympus, which can kill Pandora, a being that is neither alive nor dead
Kratos used Hope to get Hope out of himself.
Is that possible??? I mean what the logic behind that???
 
In kratos' profile he gets immo 5 negation from that


Is that possible??? I mean what the logic behind that???

Not sure if KOL is putting that correct, I think he means Kratos getting a powerup from the concept of hope or emotion of hope.
 
In kratos' profile he gets immo 5 negation from that
He prolly shouldn't. Pandora can easily die to the spikes and almost got choked out in the tank. Our Immortality Type 5 description explicitly states as such:

Characters who exist unbound by conventional life or death, or do not exist at all, and thus cannot be traditionally killed. Typically, abilities such as Existence Erasure are needed to destroy them.

Pandora can get traditionally killed and doesn't need Existence Erasure.

Is that possible??? I mean what the logic behind that???
Obviously, Kratos couldn't commit suicide with just his bare hands while still having Hope inside of him. The Blade of Olympus acts as a filter through which he can channel his own power.
 
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Hope is a emotion and/or concept though.

After all, “When all else is lost, we fight with hope” since that the statement we got it from.
Yeah but the point is, Hope isn't just an emotion, it's also the literal concept which Kratos wields and weaponizes as the power needed to demolish Zeus .
 
Ye, it's both. It's an emotion, a literal concept (Like Fear wielded by Zeus), all being weaponized.
Yeah, but anyway, after getting a look into the rest, I think it seems reasonable, but I have to check if there is also any sources to back it up too.
 
Introduction
Another God of War CRT i made. Hopefully, this one will go as smoothly as possible.

Redeemed Warrior
Explosion Manip: Looks fine

Chaos Manip: Could be potentially Madness Manip but looks fine at a glance.

Soul Manip: Seems fine, but Barbarian Hammer is the best example yet. Reference it properly and we good.

Illusion Manip: Seems fine.

Fire Manip: Straightforward enough

Electricity Manip: Looks fine, Hephaestus's Hammer has even stronger connections to it thanks to his ring also possessing electrical properties

Forcefield Creation: Looks good

Healing: Looks good, but it also adds Stat Amp via speed increase and Forcefield Creation on top as well

Invisibility: Looks good, another weapon with Forcefield Creation. Damn, a lot of these weapons abuse Forcefields to a considerable degree

Statistics Amplification: Seems good, should apply to Kratos as well

Light Manip: Looks good at a glance

Attack Reflection: IDK, isn't this just countering with your own combos?

Shockwave Creation: Nemean Cestus scan missing, Scan fixed, but then again, we stopped applying Vibration Manip for being able to make shockwaves with just punches, those would just be side-effects.

Limited Flight: Looks fine at a glance

Earth Manipulation: Nope, this is just Shockwave Generation, side effect from slamming the hammer hard. Earth Manip is only granted when you are shown to be able to manipulate the Earth into shapes and the like or create rock formations, like Ares creating gigantic rock pillars and making them move at Kratos at rapid speed

Paralysis Inducement: Works, also could add it in as Status Effect Inducement

  • Fire Manipulation (with Blade of Ares, Lance of Ares, capable of creating Wave of Fire, Flamethrower)
  • Statistics Amplification (with Lance of Ares, has an aura that increases physical attack power)
  • Magic, which consists of:
  • Fire Manipulation (via Flame of Barrier, is able to create a flame barrier, and his physical attack is buffed for a short time)
  • Explosion Manipulation (via Incineration, unleash an explosion on the enemies)
  • Accelerated Development (via Relic of Determination, gain Magic and Physical damage overtime)
  • Forcefield Creation (via Eye of the Wolf, Protects against incoming attacks by creating a protective barrier)
  • Statistics Amplification (via Ares’ Fury, Physical and Defence Power are greatly increased)
  • Healing and Damage Boost (via Battle Horn of Restoration, restore health and increase the weapon's power)
Fire Manip: Not even a question to be had. Anything related to Ares will undoubtedly give you Fire Manip. Just ask the Rage of Ares. Lance of Ares is textbook Fire Manip. Same with the Flame barrier.

Stat Amp: Looks fine. Works on the Flame of Barrier

Magic: Do I even need to say anything more on this? Full agree.

Explosion Manip: Looks fine.

Accelerated Development: Could just be limited Statistics Amplification, since it seems to last for a certain duration. As this seems to be automatic instead of being activated with a certain move, this is fine.

Forcefield Creation: Looks fine.

Another Stat Amp: Looks good.

Healing and Damage Boost: Looks fine.

  • Soul Manipulation (able to crush/cleave/summon/strip souls)
  • Curse Manipulation and Pain Manipulation (the Scythe Lance’s cursed foes with eternal pain of the Underworld, Send a wave of souls that curse all enemies)
  • Life Manipulation (with Blade of Hades, has the ability to drain the health of the living)
  • Portal Creation (with Gauntlets of Hades, can perform Portal-Attacks)
  • Teleportation (with Maul of Hades, Allows for teleporting attacks against the nearest enemy)
  • Magic, which consists of:
  • Life Manipulation (via Life Steal and Desecration, strip an enemy's life and steal the life of the enemy, who got hit by the Arms)
  • Soul Manipulation (via Desecration, enables him to summon the rotting arms of tortured souls from Tartarus)
  • Selective Intangibility (via Wraith Fang, turning into a mist and anyone who gets too close will have their health drained)
  • Invicibility (via Hades’s Helm, can become Invisible)
  • Paralysis Inducement and Curse Manipulation (via Death’s Wail, Stunned and cursed all nearby enemies with an energy Shockwave)
  • Accelerated Development (gaining physical strength when one's health is low, increasing speed after using Magic)
Soul Manip: Textbook. Fine.

Curse and Pain Manip: Looks fine. Also counts as Absorption.

Life Manip: Life Absorption

Portal Creation: Looks fine.

Teleportation: Looks fine.

Life Manipulation via Life Steal and Desecration: Again, Life Absorption.

Soul Manip via Desecration: Summoning

Selective Intangibility: Looks fine, Life Absorption in the mix too

Invincibility: I think you mean Invisibility, which is fine via Perseus using the helmet himself

Paralysis Inducement and Curse Manip: Paralysis Inducement should just be Status Effect Inducement. Curse Manip is fine.

Accelerated Development: Looks fine I suppose.

Ice Manip: Perfecto. I accept. Also works for Obliteration.

Water Manip: Looks fine

Air Manip: Isn't this Water Manip? Since it blatantly states "Hydro-Tornado"?

Aura: Looks good.

Accelerated Development: Looks fine.

Madness Manip: Yep. Sirens do exactly that as per the guidebooks.

Selective Intangibility via Breath of Amphitrite: Looks good. It's also Stat Reduction since it slows down enemies.

Healing: Looks fine.

Stat Amp and Forcefield Creation: Looks good.

Energy Manip and Paralysis Inducement: Energy Manip is fine and Healing should be added. Stunning is Status Effect Inducement for the most part.

A scan showing them using the Blade of Olympus would be fine. As for the rest...

Death Manip: Yeah this is fine.

Lightning Manip: Not even worth asking. This is the same exact Gauntlet Kratos uses in Chains of Olympus. Plus, it's Zeus's gauntlet bruh. Accepted.

Aura: That's the Spear of Zeus LOL, not the Lance of Zeus. Well that's fixed. Looks good.

Power Null: Looks fine.

Lightning Manip: Anything related to Zeus is bound to be heavily lightning-based, Annihilation and Thunderous Triumph state that verbatim. Agree.

Attack Reflection: Looks fine.

Healing: Honestly you don't even need the Chalice for this, just the 2010 Comics will tell you what the Ambrosia is. Agreed.

Yeah this is fine. The Underworld has been proven many times to be a separate dimension from the other realms, there's William Weissbaum, and then there's the Domain of Death in Ghost of Sparta nestled in between the Mortal World and the Underworld.

Blade of Olympus
Ability Addition
Ability Removal
Currently, Blade of Olympus has Conceptual Manipulation based on; affecting Hope itself and releasing Hope from Kratos into the world.

For starters, it was Kratos’ power, not the Blade’s. According to the profile, he performs Conceptual Manipulation by Channeling “Hope” to any weapon he employs (Is capable of using Hope as a weapon)

Summing up it can be said that the Blade of Olympus didn’t affecting “Hope” it’s Kratos’s own doing. This, of course, would remove its Conceptual Manipulation.
Life Manip: Life Absorption, which I think is already in the blade's power lists?

Ability Removal: Agreed. This is completely Kratos. The Blade of Olympus by the end of GOW2 is nothing more than a hunk of metal that he can simply filter his power through for maximum effect.

Immortality Type 5 Negation should also be preferably removed as per my above reasonings. Pandora is not unbound from conventional life and death and is treated as being able to die to spikes and the water tank. One could chalk this up to be gameplay, but it's not since you have to keep her safe in order to progress through the game. Well this didn't stick.

I would also like to propose additional powers.

Power Nullification, Immortality Negation (Types 1, 2 and 3) and Regen Negation: It drained Athena of her Godly Powers and rendered her mortal. GOW2 Novel Chapter 49

Overall, good job. Add all the scans to imgur, reference them properly, and we should be good to go.
 
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Also before you ask why imgur or gyazo or straight to the wiki itself, I didn't make the rules bruh, it's just that website shutdowns happen often these days so uh...

YEAH.
 
Immortality Type 5 Negation should also be preferably removed as per my above reasonings. Pandora is not unbound from conventional life and death and is treated as being able to die to spikes and the water tank. One could chalk this up to be gameplay, but it's not since you have to keep her safe in order to progress through the game.
isn't it game mechanics tho ?

edit : oh nevermind

edit : ohh but i am still believe................................................................................................. it can be considered traversal game puzzle mechanics...
 
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Immortality Type 5 Negation should also be preferably removed as per my above reasonings. Pandora is not unbound from conventional life and death and is treated as being able to die to spikes and the water tank. One could chalk this up to be gameplay, but it's not since you have to kee
Not a good reason. That could be said for every obstacle Kratos has to go through. Even Kratos dies to same stuff. Pandora's sectio is nothing but hostage situation on top.

Narratively Pandora is explicitly stated to be neither dead nor alive, and that's because she is born from Flame itself... she is just returning back to it when she """dies""" when Kratos let's go off her during Zeus battle.
 
Not a good reason. That could be said for every obstacle Kratos has to go through. Even Kratos dies to same stuff. Pandora's sectio is nothing but hostage situation on top.
Except, Kratos has Immortality Types 1, 2 and 3 to speak of.

Narratively Pandora is explicitly stated to be neither dead nor alive, and that's because she is born from Flame itself... she is just returning back to it when she """dies""" when Kratos let's go off her during Zeus battle.
But Immortality Type 5's standards state you'd need to not be killable in the traditional sense and that only hax like Existence Erasure can kill an Immortal Type 5.
 
Everything is fine.
Barbarian Hammer stuff should also go to Kratos as well.
All kinds of Soul Hax, Stats AMP, size manip etc.
Goes without saying that all this Barbarian stuff should also go to Hades, since he gave those powers in first place... although he has feats for it himself. But good for support.
  • Fire Manipulation (with Blade of Ares, Lance of Ares, capable of creating Wave of Fire, Flamethrower)
  • Statistics Amplification (with Lance of Ares, has an aura that increases physical attack power)
  • Magic, which consists of:
  • Fire Manipulation (via Flame of Barrier, is able to create a flame barrier, and his physical attack is buffed for a short time)
  • Explosion Manipulation (via Incineration, unleash an explosion on the enemies)
  • Accelerated Development (via Relic of Determination, gain Magic and Physical damage overtime)
  • Forcefield Creation (via Eye of the Wolf, Protects against incoming attacks by creating a protective barrier)
  • Statistics Amplification (via Ares’ Fury, Physical and Defence Power are greatly increased)
  • Healing and Damage Boost (via Battle Horn of Restoration, restore health and increase the weapon's power)
Also goes to Ares as well. AD makes sense considering Ares had same stuff. I believe I also have officially video conformation for this. I'll try to find. Whatever Ares gets... Kratos gets too.
  • Soul Manipulation (able to crush/cleave/summon/strip souls)
  • Curse Manipulation and Pain Manipulation (the Scythe Lance’s cursed foes with eternal pain of the Underworld, Send a wave of souls that curse all enemies)
  • Life Manipulation (with Blade of Hades, has the ability to drain the health of the living)
  • Portal Creation (with Gauntlets of Hades, can perform Portal-Attacks)
  • Teleportation (with Maul of Hades, Allows for teleporting attacks against the nearest enemy)
  • Magic, which consists of:
  • Life Manipulation (via Life Steal and Desecration, strip an enemy's life and steal the life of the enemy, who got hit by the Arms)
  • Soul Manipulation (via Desecration, enables him to summon the rotting arms of tortured souls from Tartarus)
  • Selective Intangibility (via Wraith Fang, turning into a mist and anyone who gets too close will have their health drained)
  • Invicibility (via Hades’s Helm, can become Invisible)
  • Paralysis Inducement and Curse Manipulation (via Death’s Wail, Stunned and cursed all nearby enemies with an energy Shockwave)
  • Statistic Amplification (gaining physical strength when one's health is low, increasing speed after using Magic)
Same as above. I'll try to find official Multiplayer info on YT.
Blade of Posiedon stats amp should just be Reactive PL/Evo.
Also goes to Posidon as well.
Same, goes to Zeus as well.


Agree with everything else as well.
 
Except, Kratos has Immortality Types 1, 2 and 3 to speak of.
That still doesn’t explain why he just doesn't bulldoze, leap or blitz through all the trap.
Pandora isn't any different.

But Immortality Type 5's standards state you'd need to not be killable in the traditional sense and that only hax like Existence Erasure can kill an Immortal Type 5.
Nothing about Flame of Olympus is traditional anyways....so I don't see where the problem is.
 


Life absorption, Reactive Evo and AD skill for Ares.


Can soul and life hax, corrupt, stealth mastery, invisibility, empowerment via nearby deaths, curse manip,



Via success in battle Can regenerate magic and and can increase godly power for themselves and team mates. Another AD/RE feat.



Can slow or freeze enemies with magic fields, they also regen health or warrior and teammates.
 
Overall, good job. Add all the scans to imgur, reference them properly, and we should be good to go.
Most if not all of these wouldn't have reference beyond Ascension Multiplayer and God Allegiance. It's not like a novel or manga.
Power Nullification, Immortality Negation (Types 1, 2 and 3) and Regen Negation: It drained Athena of her Godly Powers and rendered her mortal. GOW2 Novel Chapter 49
OP should also add this and what I pisted above into OP comment proposal.
 
Shockwave Creation: Nemean Cestus scan missing, Scan fixed, but then again, we stopped applying Vibration Manip for being able to make shockwaves with just punches, those would just be side-effects.
It's not your typical Shockwave that appears as a result of the attack; the scan says it's a technique of ability itself, hence the name "Nemean Roar"
Attack Reflection: IDK, isn't this just countering with your own combos?
Capable of repelling an attack
Air Manip: Isn't this Water Manip? Since it blatantly states "Hydro-Tornado"?
Yea, it's confused me too. I don't know, maybe it could've be both?

As show here
Life Manip: Life Absorption, which I think is already in the blade's power lists
Nah
 
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This looks fine, though some of the stat amping abilities should be accelerated development since they activate in response to the low health.
 
This looks fine, though some of the stat amping abilities should be accelerated development since they activate in response to the low health.
Wouldn't they be just stat amp? I thought AD was passive.
 
not exactly, stat amps would imply they'd use a move to increase their stats like the kaioken. This here is just automatically works the moment their health is in critical condition, which works for reactive power level, or AD as it's called nowadays.
 
Sword of Poseidon's charge and Zeus's gods power amplification are also RE/AD not stat amp. Since they occur in response to external stimuli. Its for consecutive hits in Posiedon's case and something similar in Zeus's case as well.
 
Looks very good so far...
not exactly, stat amps would imply they'd use a move to increase their stats like the kaioken. This here is just automatically works the moment their health is in critical condition, which works for reactive power level, or AD as it's called nowadays.
Ohhh so Norse Kratos has plenty of AD variation....
 
This looks fine, though some of the stat amping abilities should be accelerated development since they activate in response to the low health.
I see. Which ones in particular?

EDIT: NVM, seems like the stat amping parts have been handled.
 
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Okay so I'll work on adding the abilities to the Redeemed Warrior then, as well as some of the abilities to Kratos (Since he's wielded the Barbarian Hammer and all), and the BoO revisions. Is that fine with y'all?
 
BTW, Redeemed Warrior has Limited Teleportation with the Essence of Hyperion. This is false, Essence of Hyperion does not allow you to teleport nor is it a teleportation-based attack, it merely allows you to channel the power of a Hyperion portal by opening one and then charging hard at your opponent (The description very clearly states "Advance on your enemy", not "teleport to your enemy"), and it is also merely a nerfed version of Zeus's own godly dash as per WoG, and it allows you to dash across the arena rapidly, this was already noted down in the Greek Mythology blog. So Teleportation should be straight up removed.
 
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