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God of Highschool Major Upgrade CRT!! Multiversal Mori is REALLL!

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To keep things short and simple:

Essentially Mori Dan's profile is heavily outdated and does not include his new powers/abilities along with his new keys that have been staff approved. Many major upgraded are needed to be added to Mori's profile and a few other characters as well such as Mubong as well as Xuangzang, but this has been put off on for now as the chapters for which the justifications for these upgrades are in haven't been made publicly available on webtoon, until now that is.

This sandbox has been worked and talked upon for the past little bit with all of Mori's new updated abilities and keys already put in place and is now ready after it’s revision. And so far this just needs the ok to apply to Mori's own profile. Which is what the CRT is about, so all it needs is just the go ahead to apply these changes on Mori's new updated profile. Thanks in advance.

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azontr said:
Since I "helped"(I didn't do much) work on this, I obviously agree wholeheartedly.
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I disagree, without you I’d have no one to vet for abilities every time someone from the god of highschool general thread said “add this ability, no add this ability.” 🦍

The perfect inspector for double checking the abilities listed.
 
To my understanding, being a governer of reality doesnt equate to having potency capable of destroying it, nor is it implied he could create it. I don’t think this is viable. And add scans to the sandbox
 
TimmyTurnero said:
To my understanding, being a governer of reality doesnt equate to having potency capable of destroying it, nor is it implied he could create it. I don’t think this is viable. And add scans to the sandbox
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The ratings were discussed and this point was already brought up and settled by DMUA and Ovens in which embodying creation as the Buddha is well within the ranges of a 2C feat applicable for the rating. So it should be viable.
 
Maitreya said:
The ratings were discussed and this point was already brought up and settled by DMUA and Ovens in which embodying creation as the Buddha is well within the ranges of a 2C feat applicable for the rating. So it should be viable.
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Can you link the thread then? I dont read GOHS I was just looking at some threads and clicked on his sandbox. The justification would look weird to anyone and with the lack of scans would make anyone question it. The reasoning alone just doesn’t seem to justify the rating
 
TimmyTurnero said:
Discussed by members? I’m pretty sure those type of things are discussed in CRTS. Can you link the discussions?
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This particular point was discussed between Ovens and DMUA where it was ultimately determined that Mori’s ascension to Buddhahood along with the statements in the series that it was applicable for his current rating.

Here’s the discussion if you’d like.
 
To make clear: All the keys that is listed in the sandbox has been asked and approved by staff members. This CRT is mostly for approval for applying to the profile or other specific changes to the sandbox.
 
Following this ooh aah thread and i agree since this was discussed in the thread like back and forth from 2-C to Low 1-C or someshit tier 1.
 
Scans where exactly

I thought I put in a good few scans in the ability section for his new key. 🥲
 
Maitreya said:
To make clear: All the keys that is listed in the sandbox has been asked and approved by staff members. This CRT is mostly for approval for applying to the profile or other specific changes to the sandbox.
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Specific changes: mori lifting with Buddha crap should 100 percent be removed it be crazy if the sandbox gets accepted and still be there 💀.

My friend just said why is overlapping shit even there??


Can y’all reword the rating it looks weak.
 
If you’re talking about scans in his “nirvana” key I think I should just put in “possesses all borrowed powers of gods, humans, and demons in the series.” In the notes section.
 
I agree on some but there are some things I'm less sure about and disagree as to.

Immortality: Just because he has acquired all forms of Immortality does not guarantee at all that Mori will obtain all types of Immortality. At least he got Types 1, 3 & 4. He is immortal, has regeneration and also reincarnates. Besides, the scans aimed at the justification that Mori couldn't be killed upon reaching Nirvana don't show that at all either.

Acausality (Types 3 & 4): Scan showing that it can't be seen from various possible futures that occurred during the fight between Q, Dean and Sujin against Mubong. Even though actually I think it's more about Resistance to Precognition than Acausality. Then destroying the karmic cycle I think is also hyperbole and too vague, unless there is a supporting statement that Mori really destroys and is free from the karmic cycle. And to go beyond that time is also not enough to get Acausality, after all being at that point's time is only Multilocation unless it is in one Mori's consciousness then it will get Acausality (Type 3)

Transduality (Type 2): No ideas for this, I think just embodies isn't enough.

Omniscience: This should be at least Nigh-Omniscience, there is no evidence to suggest that Mori truly knew everything when he was in Nirvana and saw all creation from the future, present and past.

Omnipresence: There is no evidence that Mori's Omnipresence resides in any of creation. He only exists above Nirvana and sees all creation from there.

Multilocation & Time Travel: He only put his avatar in the past to save others. When he attained Nirvana he could see into the past as well. Xuanzang did something similar when he created his avatar to save Mori from Satan. And this is just Avatar Creation only.

Law Manipulation: The scan isn't even aimed at Law Manipulation at all. It's more about Creation and Regeneration.

Mind Manipulation: Actually it's just Aura, Empathic Manipulation, Perception Manipulation. Because Mori showed his aura to Mubong when he became the True God of Propechy and made the Tathagata cry and bow down to Mori.

Fate Manipulation: I don't think it can scale from Tathagata to Mori just because he has obtained the True God of Propechy.

Resistance to Law Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation: As I explained before, that's too hyperbolic and vague.

And yes, the 4D justification for Mori's abilities is not needed because basically Mori has already obtained a Higher-Dimensional Existence.

The justification for AP overlapping multiple dimensions must be removed because it is more about Spatial hax and also range.
 
Actually that stuff must be disscussed on CRT rather than verse disscussion Thread, since we can get many opinion from neutral staff and member beside on supporter
 
We don’t want to bog a CRT with so many posts with so many debates because it makes it more difficult for people to have to go through all of it.
 
^^^^

If you had all of these issues you should've brought them up in the discussion thread before the CRT was posted.
 
Megaraptor149 said:
I agree on some but there are some things I'm less sure about and disagree as to.
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Megaraptor149 said:
Immortality: Just because he has acquired all forms of Immortality does not guarantee at all that Mori will obtain all types of Immortality. At least he got Types 1, 3 & 4. He is immortal, has regeneration and also reincarnates. Besides, the scans aimed at the justification that Mori couldn't be killed upon reaching Nirvana don't show that at all either.

Acausality (Types 3 & 4): Scan showing that it can't be seen from various possible futures that occurred during the fight between Q, Dean and Sujin against Mubong. Even though actually I think it's more about Resistance to Precognition than Acausality. Then destroying the karmic cycle I think is also hyperbole and too vague, unless there is a supporting statement that Mori really destroys and is free from the karmic cycle. And to go beyond that time is also not enough to get Acausality, after all being at that point's time is only Multilocation unless it is in one Mori's consciousness then it will get Acausality (Type 3)

Transduality (Type 2): No ideas for this, I think just embodies isn't enough.

Omniscience: This should be at least Nigh-Omniscience, there is no evidence to suggest that Mori truly knew everything when he was in Nirvana and saw all creation from the future, present and past.

Omnipresence: There is no evidence that Mori's Omnipresence resides in any of creation. He only exists above Nirvana and sees all creation from there.

Multilocation & Time Travel: He only put his avatar in the past to save others. When he attained Nirvana he could see into the past as well. Xuanzang did something similar when he created his avatar to save Mori from Satan. And this is just Avatar Creation only.

Law Manipulation: The scan isn't even aimed at Law Manipulation at all. It's more about Creation and Regeneration.

Mind Manipulation: Actually it's just Aura, Empathic Manipulation, Perception Manipulation. Because Mori showed his aura to Mubong when he became the True God of Propechy and made the Tathagata cry and bow down to Mori.

Fate Manipulation: I don't think it can scale from Tathagata to Mori just because he has obtained the True God of Propechy.

Resistance to Law Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation: As I explained before, that's too hyperbolic and vague.

And yes, the 4D justification for Mori's abilities is not needed because basically Mori has already obtained a Higher-Dimensional Existence.

The justification for AP overlapping multiple dimensions must be removed because it is more about Spatial hax and also range.
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all the forms of immortality were discussed you can go read up. Rest don’t really care about for now i guess.
Wait what it’s stated that he would know and it was suggested but we have no proof??
I’m too tried for this.
Buddha in lifting should 100 percent be removed tho for the 6th time now if it hasn’t.
 
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azontr said:
^^^^

If you had all of these issues you should've brought them up in the discussion thread before the CRT was posted.
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Anyway why should I bring them all to the discussion thread. After all, what's the point of creating a CRT if we don't listen to their opinions before we change Mori's profile when everything is approved on CRT. After all, if everything has been agreed in the discussion thread, why not just change Mori's profile from yesterday without bothering to make a CRT.
LIFE said:
all the forms of immortality were discussed you can go read up. Rest don’t really care about for now i guess.
Wait what it’s stated that he would know and it was suggested but we have no proof??
I’m too tried for this.
Buddha in lifting should 100 percent be removed tho for the 6th time now if it hasn’t.
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I already give my opinion before in disscussion thread, its not be better we argue this on this CRT.
 
Megaraptor149 said:
I agree on some but there are some things I'm less sure about and disagree as to.

Immortality: Just because he has acquired all forms of Immortality does not guarantee at all that Mori will obtain all types of Immortality. At least he got Types 1, 3 & 4. He is immortal, has regeneration and also reincarnates. Besides, the scans aimed at the justification that Mori couldn't be killed upon reaching Nirvana don't show that at all either.

Acausality (Types 3 & 4): Scan showing that it can't be seen from various possible futures that occurred during the fight between Q, Dean and Sujin against Mubong. Even though actually I think it's more about Resistance to Precognition than Acausality. Then destroying the karmic cycle I think is also hyperbole and too vague, unless there is a supporting statement that Mori really destroys and is free from the karmic cycle. And to go beyond that time is also not enough to get Acausality, after all being at that point's time is only Multilocation unless it is in one Mori's consciousness then it will get Acausality (Type 3)

Transduality (Type 2): No ideas for this, I think just embodies isn't enough.

Omniscience: This should be at least Nigh-Omniscience, there is no evidence to suggest that Mori truly knew everything when he was in Nirvana and saw all creation from the future, present and past.

Omnipresence: There is no evidence that Mori's Omnipresence resides in any of creation. He only exists above Nirvana and sees all creation from there.

Multilocation & Time Travel: He only put his avatar in the past to save others. When he attained Nirvana he could see into the past as well. Xuanzang did something similar when he created his avatar to save Mori from Satan. And this is just Avatar Creation only.

Law Manipulation: The scan isn't even aimed at Law Manipulation at all. It's more about Creation and Regeneration.

Mind Manipulation: Actually it's just Aura, Empathic Manipulation, Perception Manipulation. Because Mori showed his aura to Mubong when he became the True God of Propechy and made the Tathagata cry and bow down to Mori.

Fate Manipulation: I don't think it can scale from Tathagata to Mori just because he has obtained the True God of Propechy.

Resistance to Law Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Fate Manipulation: As I explained before, that's too hyperbolic and vague.

And yes, the 4D justification for Mori's abilities is not needed because basically Mori has already obtained a Higher-Dimensional Existence.

The justification for AP overlapping multiple dimensions must be removed because it is more about Spatial hax and also range.
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These are valid concerns. I was also confused on a lot of the abilities and scans put in that sandbox.

You guys can't just use your discussions in a separate thread as reasoning to apply these changes. People need to see the evidence and reasoning in the sandbox and in this thread.

How do you expect staff and others who weren't involved to understand where you're coming from?
 
Evidently, based on the general reception, the lack of scans is a problem that should've been fixed before the CRT was posted(which was something I most likely should've addressed before this CRT was even made)
 
Phoenks said:
These are valid concerns. I was also confused on a lot of the abilities and scans put in that sandbox.

You guys can't just use your discussions in a separate thread as reasoning to apply these changes. People need to see the evidence and reasoning in the sandbox and in this thread.

How do you expect staff and others who weren't involved to understand where you're coming from?
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Most of the stuff in the sandbox was already previously done and made by Sir_Ovens and before posting the CRT I wanted to check if they sandbox was good for the most part with him. Which he said it was.

The things that I added was type 9 immortality, Mind Manipulation, Fate Manipulation, Law Manipulation, the resistances, Transduality, or I either expanded upon or added links to the explanations and justifications Ovens had in the sandbox when there previously was one.

Other than that I can make a list of each point of contention and then can provide the justifications for them and then go from there.
 
azontr said:
Evidently, based on the general reception, the lack of scans is a problem that should've been fixed before the CRT was posted(which was something I most likely should've addressed before this CRT was even made)
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There were no scans before 🗿
 
azontr said:
🗿 🗿 🗿

WHERE WERE THESE CONTENTIONS IN THE DISCUSSION THREAD
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There were none in the discussion thread because these things weren't in the sandbox when I made it.

Do you understand now why I didn't want to make this CRT? I wanted to better illustrate why the additions the people in the discussion thread wanted didn't make sense but I was too busy to formulate an actual counterargument to each individual thing and decided it was best to just let all of these be addressed at once.

In addition, this is an incredibly rushed CRT because nobody thought about adding scans to the relevant power additions and justifications. Also this CRT completely left out the ripple effect of the dozens of other characters that need to be revised due to the changes. This thread also doesn't go into whether or not Tathagata scales, or if Mujin scales, or the Class G LS I told you to remind me to add for Arc 3 characters.
 
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Better just add the scan from now on. Then there are some that need to be replaced or deleted in the sandbox as per my opinion.
 
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