Added already but yeah. Kratos stomps
That's... not much of a problem. Because the moment he touches it, he'll erase the whole concept.
he cant touch him bro coz he dont got range
But it depends on where the war starts. If they start facing each other by default, Kratos stomps
kratos wouldn't even be able to face him coz hes too big. yan would literally cover up the entire universe and kratos gets squished
Kratos is the concept itself. No one without conceptual interaction can touch Kratos. Read this damn profile
so yan sen cant touch kratos and kratos cant touch yan sen
Nah, one touch will be enough for him. Range doesn't mean whether or not you can touch the opponent, only whether or not you can damage his whole body.
yuh, kratos would be hurting a very very very small portion of him
But the problem is that not every conceptual hax works like that. Unless it at least shows resistance or a superior regeneration feat, he can never get out of this conceptual shit.
1- Kratos has resistance to what you says (just read the profile, that's enough)
1. Kratos resist. The universe he’s in doesn’t so he gets bfr’d via being in a bfr’d universe/space or whatever.
As I said, Kratos has a portal-based BFR and also is not affected. Also, the PoH key has resistance to Athena's sealing. And if you can't seal a conceptual being, you can't seal Kratos.
The problem is that as long as the concept of Hope exists, it completely protects Kratos' body, soul and mind like a shield. Therefore, you cannot effect/touch Kratos physically, spiritually, mentally or conceptually, or even interact with him. If you are trying, good luck trying to touch and effect Kratos an any way.
I cannot say anything about Ymir as the Low 1-C revision is currently ongoing and has not yet been finalised. I am also thinking of opening a revision for "at least likely Low Complex range" since it can affect Athena, a 5-D existence, to Kratos. However, if Ygg Low 1-C is accepted, this battle will be pointless because some runic magics we already use are completely scaled to Yggdrasil.
As I said, Yan-Sen cannot harm Kratos physically, mentally, spiritually or conceptually, or even touch him. Because of his conceptual immunity and Invulnerability. And his entire body, soul and mind are completely protected by the concept of hope.
Yan Sen's BFR isn't portal based (Not that he couldn't use portal BFR). He's BFR'ing the universe the fight takes place in. The sealing he possibly resist isn't the same as Yan Sen's sealing and therefore doesn't apply as resistance for Kratos.
Kratos is interactable. He's just hard to kill. Fear Zeus could touch his fist filled with hope with Kratos but was overpowered. Regardless Yan Sen doesn't have to interact with Kratos himself or hope itself to win.
Hope all goes well
I don't feel the need to reiterate my opinion on the first part of your closing. But Kratos' abilities outside of a few can't be used since they're via weaponry that are destroyed such as soul manipulation with the Claws of Hades being destroyed on top of the issue with even reaching Yan Sen still being an issue for Kratos.
Kratos has a portal-based BFR. I think he can escape this universe. Also, his immunity and untouchability make him nearly impossible for Yan-Sen to even sense Kratos.
Kratos "literally" is a being that cannot be interacted with. Neither physical, nor mental, nor spiritual, nor conceptual. That's what all the revisions were for, and that's exactly what "Good luck trying to interact with Kratos and touch him in any way" means.
Thanks man.
Even with Hades' weapon gone, PoH can still nuked souls, minds, and concepts. Just like with Zeus.
Like I said, Yan-Sen cannot in any way touch or feel or harm Kratos.
Like I said, Yan-Sen can't sense, touch, harm or effect him. If Kratos could nuked his soul, that would be a wincon for him. So... at least it's a range-independent hax. If it's didn't fly, it's an incon or wincon via incap for Kratos. Of course, if incap counts as one of the ways of winning.
Yan Sen's BFR works on beings who resist BFR practically all types of BFR, including the same thing Yan Sen pulls off except they can't resist his because he's that guy I guess. Yan Sen can sense Kratos, he isn't invisible or undetectable nor does the power of Hope ever gave him that ability.
GoWank never ceases to surprise me. Yet KLOL and Planck call me the wanker for wanting 2-C Ascension Kratos. Regardless, BFR for Yan Sen still is applicable since he's not interacting with Kratos to perform that. Hell, he's not even BFR'ing Kratos himself, just the world.
Yan Sen should be able to resist but that's for another CRT
Unneeded for Yan Sen
just like how dante didn't have to touch kratos, he could use aoe bfr lol
Kinda but no. And that would make things worst for Kratos because then he wouldn't be near Yan Sen while Yan Sen has all the range advantage.
If it doesn't work against a conceptual being, I have no idea why you expect it to work against Kratos. It just happens to be NLF. After all, it is not even known how Yan-Sen can feel someone whose entire existence is covered and protected by the concept. Even assuming it would be an NLF.
The problem is that if you can't feel or perceive, you can't attack. Btw i agree with you for 2-C Ascension
Me too. We have some plans for Yan-Sen.
No, it's actually one of the things that makes Yan-Sen not understand what's going on.
In fact, it would have made it better because we would be fighting in universes that were not under Yan-Sen's control.
And at the end of the day, Dante had no way to win. They were all dead out because new additions had been made.
I think you're conflating Athena being unable to detect Hope residing within Kratos with Kratos being able to be conceptually undetectable which is completely unfounded. There is no instance of that happening.
That is not an ability Hope has.
I've been seeing a lot of plans for him. I hope to get him key for when he was a teen.
Let's agree to disagree on this point
That's the thing. As explained by Henry, shown by Henry, Yan Sen, and other gods, Gods can just hijack any reality to control everything within it from space, to time and fate. It's one of the abilities on Yan Sen's profile. It would be no different from Yan Sen being in his own space. In fact, it's literally making that space their own space.
The problem isn't that Kratos can't be felt. The problem is that Yan-Sen will not be able to sense a conceptual existence whose existence is covered by the concept.
As I said, Yan-Sen cannot feel a conceptual being whose entire existence is completely contained in the concept. Of course, we'll see what happens next in the series.
Frankly, I have plans to make the human world Low 1-C. At least it will be 2-A.
Okay.
Kratos already has resistance to this, even in the norse key. So that doesn't change much for Kratos.
Let's say sure. That doesn't stop Yan Sen from seeing Kratos. Something completely possible for omnipresent cosmically aware Yan Sen
Sure. But he can see him.
Huh. Neat
Space, time, fate sure. The BFR is what he can't resist.
I repeat again. Being omnipresent or having cosmic awareness won't work unless you can feel and see a conceptual beintg that is covered by the concept itself with cosmic awareness. Yan-Sen can only see and feel being that are abstractions of laws.
It would be an NLF for Yan-Sen to see and feel a concept.
He's not sensing anything, he's seeing. Kratos isn't invisible, nor does it make him undetectable. If you think this is an ability he has you should make a CRT for it.
He is seeing Kratos, not a concept.
I'll repeat it for the last time, and I think we can put an end to this situation now. Yan-Sen cannot see or feel in any way a conceptual being that is completely encompassed by the concept. Kratos still has a physical body, but that body is completely enveloped by the concept.
You have to make a CRT if you want to add this new ability to Krato's profile. It shouldn't be hard if this power is as in your face as you make it sound.
To someone who can't feel and effect concepts, it makes them invisible, intangible, and untouchable. If you suggest that Yan-Sen can sense it and notice it, you are doing NLF here. Unfortunately, we have yet to see such success for Yan-Sen.
This is not the true abstraction of the concept, but this conceptual abstraction is Kratos' all-encompassing. Think of it like you're wearing a cape.
