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Gilgamesh(unwritten) vs the last Dragonborn

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Gilgamesh (The Unwritten)

Gilgamesh is the historical king of the Sumerian city-state of Uruk, a major hero in ancient Mesopotamian mythology, and the protagonist of the Epic of Gilgamesh. In the Unwritten, Gilgamesh was one of the "favourite" of the Leviathan. After his city was wiped out by a flood, Gilgamesh was...
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The Dovahkiin

The Song of the Dragonborn The Dovahkiin, also known as The Last Dragonborn, is the main protagonist and player character of The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. They are a legendary Hero whose coming was long foretold by the Elder Scrolls, and said to coincide with the return of Alduin, as the only one...
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dovahkhiin :

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Would be a real shame if Gilgamesh's Plot Manipulation didn't scale to the Highest High 1-A crap in existence to where the Leviathan is only beaten out by Tier 0 Smurfs!
 
You mean how Gilgamesh plot manipulation IS literally powered by that tier High 1-A, to the point that it could kill him
 
So first time dovah getting stomped 😭
DaReaperMan said:
Would be a real shame if Gilgamesh's Plot Manipulation didn't scale to the Highest High 1-A crap in existence to where the Leviathan is only beaten out by Tier 0 Smurfs!
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Like who the hell is even a tier 0 Smurf lol
 
China man is going to become tier 0...Cu something
Anyways...Reaper, could you bother to explain why Gilgamesh DOESN'T have tier High 1-A, when he is
A. Powered by a High 1-A (and an extremlly powerfull one)
B. That High 1-A hepped him up so bad, to the point it powered Him to the point He could have defeated Him
 
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Just coming in to say none of the Dovahkiin’s hax is High 1-A (purely just his accausality) and none of it is passive. He does everything at once, but he still needs to think, say, and do actions that require thoughts, words, and movements. The only Tier 1 abilities they have are power nullifying magic (active, requires the staff of Magnus) and BFR (thought based and I think is only temporary, plus it’s half high 1-B since you only particularly send the target between the 3-D space and the infinite dimensional space).
 
Keeweed said:
Just coming in to say none of the Dovahkiin’s hax is High 1-A (purely just his accausality) and none of it is passive. He does everything at once, but he still needs to think, say, and do actions that require thoughts, words, and movements. The only Tier 1 abilities they have are power nullifying magic (active, requires the staff of Magnus) and BFR (thought based and I think is only temporary, plus it’s half high 1-B since you only particularly send the target between the 3-D space and the infinite dimensional space).
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The staff of Magnus is way more than power nullifying magic https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Staff_of_Magnus . Secondly the need for prisoners to think, say and do actions is actively covered by their quantum identity. moras grasp is not the only high 1b or tier 1 hax they* have nor does moras grasp have any evidence in lore of being temporary . Several other notable hax include: call of valor which summons 3 warriors of sovngarde to fight alongside youhttps://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Call_of_Valor_(Skyrim), the black books that cause high 1b madness and possible BFR when opened, the elder scrolls that has time, cosmic awareness, precognition and retrocognition hax as it exists outside of time and simultaneously records past present and future and LDB has no issue reading it UESPhttps://en.m.uesp.net › wiki › Lore:...Lore:Elder Scrolls - The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages (UESP), auriels bow and a specific blood arrow blocks the the largest tear between the mundus and aetherius, nullifying completely all magic on mundus https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sun, UESPhttps://en.m.uesp.net › wiki › Lore:...Lore:Auriel's Bow, auriels shield makes them nigh invulnerable UESPhttps://en.m.uesp.net › wiki › Lore:...Lore:Auriel's Shield, become ethereal makes you one with the void of oblivion giving hax like NEP https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Become_Ethereal, divine crusader Armor is each imbued with blessings from the 8 divines https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Crusader's_Relics , and the staff of chaos https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Staff_of_Chaos#:~:text=The%20Staff%20of%20Chaos%20(properly,%2C%20it%20is%20nigh%2Dindestructible is the staff of chaos. So, even though these haxes themselves don’t reach tier high 1a they all have potency of at least 2c-high 1b coupled with at least 1a prisoner physiology makes all this passive. And Tamriel(mundus) is not 3d at all.
 
Livinmeme said:
China man is going to become tier 0...Cu something
Anyways...Reaper, could you bother to explain why Gilgamesh DOESN'T have tier High 1-A, when he is
A. Powered by a High 1-A (and an extremlly powerfull one)
B. That High 1-A hepped him up so bad, to the point it powered Him to the point He could have defeated Him
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Hey can you please read what I said again thank youuuuuu
 
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The staff of Magnus is way more than power nullifying magic https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Staff_of_Magnus . Secondly the need for prisoners to think, say and do actions is actively covered by their quantum identity. moras grasp is not the only high 1b or tier 1 hax they* have nor does moras grasp have any evidence in lore of being temporary . Several other notable hax include: call of valor which summons 3 warriors of sovngarde to fight alongside youhttps://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Call_of_Valor_(Skyrim), the black books that cause high 1b madness and possible BFR when opened, the elder scrolls that has time, cosmic awareness, precognition and retrocognition hax as it exists outside of time and simultaneously records past present and future and LDB has no issue reading it UESPhttps://en.m.uesp.net › wiki › Lore:...Lore:Elder Scrolls - The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages (UESP), auriels bow and a specific blood arrow blocks the the largest tear between the mundus and aetherius, nullifying completely all magic on mundus https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Sun, UESPhttps://en.m.uesp.net › wiki › Lore:...Lore:Auriel's Bow, auriels shield makes them nigh invulnerable UESPhttps://en.m.uesp.net › wiki › Lore:...Lore:Auriel's Shield, become ethereal makes you one with the void of oblivion giving hax like NEP https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Become_Ethereal, divine crusader Armor is each imbued with blessings from the 8 divines https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Crusader's_Relics , and the staff of chaos https://en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Staff_of_Chaos#:~:text=The%20Staff%20of%20Chaos%20(properly,%2C%20it%20is%20nigh%2Dindestructible is the staff of chaos. So, even though these haxes themselves don’t reach tier high 1a they all have potency of at least 2c-high 1b coupled with at least 1a prisoner physiology makes all this passive. And Tamriel(mundus) is not 3d at all.
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The black books aren’t usable because they don’t use them in combat, they only use them on themselves. Plus normal humans can survive Mora’s realm, it’s just that most can’t same with sheogorath’s realm.
The crusader’s equipment had trouble against Umaril when the CoC used it, its repeatedly stated to be his hardest fought battle, and they are 4-A.
Could you go into further detail on what else you think the staff effects because the only thing I remember it effecting is the eye of Magnus which is magic based in nature which is why it was able to null it because the staff nulls magic.
I know that being a prisoner makes them do stuff simultaneously, but they still need to do stuff. The game doesn’t passively end the characters do actions in order to achieve things.

Though biggest thing is the Dovahkiin is cartoonishly out of date.
 
Right now I am trying to make a thread on all the spells in the games and the perks, since I’ve been playing through Oblivon, Morrowind, and Daggerfall. Just wanted to point that out since I kinda wanted someone to check over my doc when I’m done with it.
 
Keeweed said:
The black books aren’t usable because they don’t use them in combat, they only use them on themselves. Plus normal humans can survive Mora’s realm, it’s just that most can’t same with sheogorath’s realm.
The crusader’s equipment had trouble against Umaril when the CoC used it, its repeatedly stated to be his hardest fought battle, and they are 4-A.
Could you go into further detail on what else you think the staff effects because the only thing I remember it effecting is the eye of Magnus which is magic based in nature which is why it was able to null it because the staff nulls magic.
I know that being a prisoner makes them do stuff simultaneously, but they still need to do stuff. The game doesn’t passively end the characters do actions in order to achieve things.

Though biggest thing is the Dovahkiin is cartoonishly out of date.
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Stop trying to tie down game mechanics to prisoners physiology that’s wrong, the prisoner walks all path meaning everything they posses including the black books will be used to either escape or incapacitate their opponent if they find themselves in a tight space. Absolutely no human in aprocryoha apart from the LDB and miraak have survived the madness effects and if you want to refer to Morian ? The fodder begged divayth fyr to develop a portal to oblivion and a mind spell that transferred all info he was receiving to a khajit and even with that he was still gradually going mad till he fully lost it though the time on how long he resisted the madness is not known as the time in oblivion is not certain but it is clear that him resisting the effects of madness for a short time in aprocrypha was not solely by his own abilities . And Like I said the staff is more than just nullifying magic you should read this which hopefully gets the dovahkhiin upgraded :
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The Elder Scrolls Half-Time Revisions

I'm pretty sure there are some revisions coming soon for Oblivion and the Tier for Aetherius but let's look at some other things before that happens Nirn's Tier So off the bat, Nirn is rated as low 2-C due to the Earth-bones and the higher Dimensional nature of Nirn's oceans. However, there's...
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Sorry for being gone, got busy with school. But that does allow me to say, a human surviving for any amount of time is an anti feat for the hax being beyond 3D. Especially since last I checked one of the characters in online specially tells you lower dimensional beings can’t perceive higher dimensional or spatial stuff.
 
Keeweed said:
Sorry for being gone, got busy with school. But that does allow me to say, a human surviving for any amount of time is an anti feat for the hax being beyond 3D. Especially since last I checked one of the characters in online specially tells you lower dimensional beings can’t perceive higher dimensional or spatial stuff.
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Except they aren’t perceiving it. It’s just your mind playing tricks on you:


Plus oblivion finna be 1-A anyways. Anyways, coupling that with multiple quotes from Lyranth and Fa nuit hen, you’re mind is simply attempting to fill in the blanks with familiarity
 
Honestly that oblivion lore is really cool and wish it was in the actual game oblivion. Though when it comes to being hax they still lack the actual capability to see higher planes in their true selves so I don’t think they would need 1-A resistances to survive. Especially since that lore applies to all of oblivion and only the realm of madness and the information within Mora’s realm cause madness not realms of oblivion themselves. Non 1-A characters can still prepare against the effects and survive. Though the biggest thing is the potency doesn’t matter, Gilgamesh here is protected by a super beefy High 1-A that book thrown by a 3-D character isn’t going to land (especially assuming they even throw it at all which I doubt).

Also sorry for that reply taking so long.
 
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