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Geten vs Prinz Eugen

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Geten always fight in the air so again the torpedoes are useless and if you want her to have acrobatics, you should make a crt over the Azure lane side and have her profile updated cuz this whole A have this, B scale so should probably have that so C could have that as well is getting ridiculous. Also maneuver in air =/= acrobatics let alone the kind that would counter an entire ice canyon forming right beneath you with fragments bursting upward. Also higher LS, I can't imagine she'll be able to fight that well when her guns and equipments are being press right next to her body, couple that with his higher stamina and her potentially damaged rigging and I think geten should have this given that he has more than enough AOE to make up for his range so he could just stay back and defend/maneuver around with ice while Prinz will constantly be barrages with city block wide ice while fighting in uneven, dangerous terrain that also want to skewer her
 
she still have multiple AA guns to engage airborne target, which she can ditch out danmaku level of shell on the air which allow her to engage air target at maximum 9km high up the sky, fire control radar allow her gun to automatically traverse the gun to follow the target even if she not follow her opponent with her eyes. While she can't acrobatic, she can still jump and manuever on difficult terrain. Force Field will just stop anything that could damage her rigging from around while she can focus to countiniously firing intense barrage of aa shell, and shipgirl have AP Shell to penetrated durability higher than their AP because of Piercing Damage, she can just swiftly change between AP Shell to penetrate ice while also trying to damage her opponent. The real problem is stamina though
 
Vietthai96 said:
she still have multiple AA guns to engage airborne target, which she can ditch out danmaku level of shell on the air which allow her to engage air target at maximum 9km high up the sky, fire control radar allow her gun to automatically traverse the gun to follow the target even if she not follow her opponent with her eyes. While she can't acrobatic, she can still jump and manuever on difficult terrain. Force Field will just stop anything that could damage her rigging from around while she can focus to countiniously firing intense barrage of aa shell, and shipgirl have AP Shell to penetrated durability higher than their AP because of Piercing Damage, she can just swiftly change between AP Shell to penetrate ice while also trying to damage her opponent. The real problem is stamina though
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As long she can outranged Geten then she would be fine

Btw are you gonna voting?
 
guys we are forgetting about the shields that Prinz can call to counter the chunks of ice towards her.
geten does not know that Prinz has torpedoes also how does he know that she is a ship.Geten's flight is not a problem for Prinz as he has anti-aircraft.
 
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Their starting distance is 120 meters which fit comfortably in geten range and unless he let her create distance between them, which he won't, not like it would be that easy to run when ice spikes are popping from underneath everywhere you go, she won't be out ranging him. Her shield has a set interval and from what I've been told can only block projectiles, idk if a massive ice dragon count as one but he still has close range ice spike to penetrate her as long as there's water underneath her. And since neither had the range advantage geten will have the AOE to shield and attack. And again I can't stress this enough, she'll be screwed if he caught her with his ice, trying to break the ice will be met with him reattaching the broken pieces or making more ice from the surrounding waters, also I don't she'll be able to fire guns and especially explosive one that well when they are being press right next to her body, ever accidentally fire a pistol when it still in your pocket ? Yeah now replace that pistol with dozens of navel artillery. And finally not only does she have less stamina than he does, her fighting capabilities will be further reduce with every damage done to her rigging and while he is comfortably floating around and shielding himself with ice, prinz will have to constantly avoid getting skewered by the ground while fending off air borne ice attacks, doing one of these would be easy for her but both at the same time and that stamina will be dropping faster than it already would
 
the photo does not work. I said it can block (of course and just A my suppose) things that look like bullets. Moreover eugen can use Iron dragons to break the ice near her


these are prinz's acrobatic movements.



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The link didn't work ? If that's the case go read chpter 230, the picture should be there. Ok how well can her iron dragons work in tight confined spaces. And geten ice isn't shape like bullets, he just launch huge pieces of ice at you, sometimes city block wide slab. And if spinning around at the beginning of the video and dodging bullets near the end is the evidence for her acrobatics, then that's nowhere near enough to counter geten feat in ch230, not to mention his ice are far larger and numerous than bullet and if they miss, he could always redirect them afterwards. And again if you want her to have acrobatics, you should make a CRT over the AL side to have her profile updated, cuz if we continue to use out of profile stuff like this, I'll argue geten can one shot her by embedding a small piece of ice in her body then freezing all the water in her body
 
And if her dragon can indeed work in tight spaces then she can try breaking his ice all she wants, he'll just reattach the broken pieces or freeze more water to trap her with and all this will do is eat away at her inferior stamina
 
I forgot the Iron Dragon can also shoot to pulverize the ice.and if I'm not mistaken Geten can't recreate pulverized ice
 
Her AP is not high enough to greatly pulverize anything and while trapped in geten ice shooting something that big that close to your body is asking for self-harm, also he could just reattach or make more ice, the only way to stop him from reattaching it is by vaporizing it like with dabi but that is out of the question for her so try to escape all she want, that'll just harm her stamina
 
Geten fra, also are those votes for prinz leftovers from nejire vs prinz or are they new cuz if it's the former you should remove them
 
As i said before, Shipgirls has fought countless battles involved danmaku and storm of bullets/torpedos, Geten's ice attacks isn't different from what they have seen before. Almost every battles required them fending off swarm of enemies and airplanes at the same time, and taking account that it actually happened in real life as well. IRL warships can firing their guns simultaneously and caused this much damage, Shipgirls can did the same thing but greater. This mean Prinz Eugen didn't need to vaporize his ice but her guns can penetrate them quite easily.

On the opposite site, i could say the same thing to Geten because he will need to concentrate on attacking her while shielding bullets from penetrated him. Now i don't know the justification for his stamina but every Shipgirls are capable of fighting for a long time without getting tired, some can did so while being injured. Their AP are almost comparable and she also has shields so she can take punishement better. I noticed that his durability is unknown so he will likey get one-shot if got hit by her guns.
 
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One thing more, Shipgirls has engage in anti-submarine warfare before, which is why they're equipped with torpedos in the first place. They're no strange to attack that suddenly come out of nowhere or from their blind spot to say the least.
 
Geten has higher stamina, LS and full environmental control via freezing water. Her shield can only block projectiles and even then it's arguable whether that only applies to conventional ones like bullets or missiles, not to mention it can only stay out for so long and have to recharge. This is the kind of terrain he can create using water from a far more limited source, prinz doesn't have the mobility nor movement speed to outrun an even bigger version of this, on top of that she'll have to avoid getting slammed by gigantic icebergs while doing what she can to avoid getting skewered. Geten effortlessly perform the feat above as a casual show of power and fought Dabi, someone who have an elemental advantage over him in a far less advantageous environment, and even then he didn't even break a sweat let alone suffer any damage so it's safe to say prinz will run out of stamina far earlier than geten would. And while she has to constantly avoid death from both the sky and the water, geten can maneuver around and block himself with gigantic slabs of self reforming ice that can reform from even water(bottom left panel), sure she has her radar to identify his location, doesn't mean it'll make any easier to hit him especially without her homing torpedoes. And while she has feats of fighting against danmaku, geten's is different. His attack aren't bullets or missiles, they are building size icicles that may not even be blockable by her shield, that can A. Change direction if they miss B. Reform if broken C. Continue to move and attack if broken apart, and did I mention she has to do all this while the ground is trying to penetrate her with every step. And every damage to her rigging is only making this fight that much harder. If he manages to trap her, which isn't that hard given how big and numerous his ice is and how tired and preoccupied she must be dealing with his onslaught of attack, she'll be screwed. He could either drown her deep in the canal, ragdoll and smash her around or just add on more ice to crush her, and any attempt to break out will be met with him either reforming or making more ice to trap her with. And finally, while he has never done this, I'll argue he'll be able to freeze all the water in her body if he manages to stick even a small piece of ice in her body
 
All kind of them, why do think her shields cannot block Geten ice when it can against all sort of projectile. Read my previous post, Shipgirls constantly faced danmaku and alike so mobility is the least problem here. Those ice attacks aren't unavoidable, especially considered how fast Shipgirls can move in general or how far she can shoot. The current rating for Shipgirls 8-A are very casually feat which even Destroyer, the "weakest type of Ships", can perform. This is shells we are talking about which are bigger and lethal than normal bullet.

Once again, i don't see if Geten fighting Dabi would make him having higher stamina than Prinz Eugen, at best the fight won't last for hours. Now i have doubt over how big those ice actually are, and the second panel put me think that the icicles aren't as big as you make it to be and what actually being shown is the shockwave alone.

You said that he can do all those kind of tricks but i could said the same thing as well. How can he keep track on someone who firing eight 20.3cm guns + twelve 10.5 cm guns + twelve 3.7 cm guns + eight 2 cm guns simultaneously while constantly moving around. None of panel shown that he can rapidly shoot icicles or creating buliding-sized construction in mere seconds at the same time, as opposite that he need concentrate to create them and keep track at opponent. If she known his ice are dangerous than she could just move the land or further from his range.
 
This, this, this, this and this are examples of how big his ice can get even with a limited source of water, fyi my lady is 20 meters tall and his ice can match her. The problem is not that she'll be unable to fight his danmaku, the problem is she have to fight it while the ground is also trying to ******* shish kebab her, and while her shield can seemingly block his building size projectiles(somehow), he could use his ground spike or create an ice wave to bypass it, his ice dragon is definitely not a projectile, and even if she manages to dodge, destroy or block his projectiles, they'll just change direction, reform and relentlessly attack her until her shield has to cooldown and did I mention the ground is still trying to kill her. Compared to geten she has a lot more to concentrate about and that means her stamina will deplete a lot quicker. Also what stopping him from continuously covering the outside of her shield with ice then wait for it to deactivate then smother and trap her with ice, in fact now that I look at it, she doesn't even create a omnidirectional bubble but rather 3 shield. "Every 20s: 40% (70%) chance to spawn 3 rotating shields that absorb 10 shots each; lasts 10s." so each shield can only block 10 shots which isn't much considering he can just hit her with the same ice attack over and over again, they don't block her entire body and from the art I've seen are full of openings, they last for only 10s and isn't even guaranteed to reactivate after 20s. Her attacks may be numerous but geten defences are just as numerous and most of all, big, and she'll be more than preoccupied with dealing with his attacks to properly attack him. And on their profile, geten is listed to have Very high stamina for not breaking a sweat in his fight with dabi, another character who have Very high stamina, while eugen is listed to have "High" stamina, idk how stamina is determined on this site but I guess we just have to take their word for it. And finally the point I've trying to emphasize all this time, everytime her rigging is damage she'll get progressively weaker and against an opponent who already have more stamina than you do, that's not a good thing, if she gets grab or trapped, that's a guaranteed ko, since she can't destroy his ice as fast as he can fix/make them, and if she's being trapped by his ice, she can't move her guns or equipments and have to fire at whatever position they are in when they sre being press right next to her body, and I don't believe someone as smart as her will be dumb enough to fire explosive artillery shells that close to her body. Once trapped geten could do all sort of thing to finish her off, drowning, bash her around, crush her, etc....
 
Eh, i dunno lel

Part of me also glad that we got an actual debate, but another part of me always sad that it would lead to another Azur Lane loss for so many times, sound exaggerating but i feel the verse got downplayed by the folks here
 
So you're purposefully giving a Prinz an advantage, by putting the Geten into a position where he can't attack her without getting closer?

Is it in character for Prinz to just increasing the distance between them when she'll notice that Geten is trying to get closer and is incapable of attacking her?

Or would she just stand there and not move away from him at all?

You've made the distance 1 kilometer, where Geten can't do anything to his opponent while she can fire at him without any fear of retaliation.

I wouldn't call this a notable victory.
 
You could've just not changed it to Geten and had the match closed because it was a stomp when you still had it as Nejire.

I did say it was your choice.
 
TheRustyOne said:
You could've just not changed it to Geten and had the match closed because it was a stomp when you still had it as Nejire.

I did say it was your choice.
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Sigh.....dilema is dilema, when i wanted to changed it to Geten i have a feeling Prinz would lose, but i decide to "f**k it"

Guess i'm regretting my decision and called it a mistake
 
It's not wrong to make a match and have some bias towards one character, I do that myself and we all have biases.

But if it genuinely bothers you that one of the characters might lose, don't make the match
 
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But if it genuinely bothers you that one of the characters might lose, don't make the match
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Yeah, that's my biggest mistake here, should'nt changed it in the first place

And it's too late to asking this to be closed now, i f***ing hate my decision
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