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Geten vs Prinz Eugen

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I don't know much about Prinz beyond what is being told here, if she can fight in a city environment without any problems then I guess it is fine. Though the canal with a large amount of ice for him to use would be just as fine.

I'm say Prinz is still more likely to win, just not a stomp.
 
They should fight in the canal since it gives both fighters advantage. Prinz will her naval combat while geten will have plenty of water to freeze
 
So I'll try to analyze both combatants advantages
Prinz
. Range
. Slightly superior intelligent
. Slight AP advantage
Geten
. Better stamina
. Higher LS (Class M vs Unknown)

At first sight you may think prinz take this but I personally think geten should take this with albeit high difficulty. My reasoning being his ability to freeze the water in the canal, completely negating her torpedo (not like they would work in the first place since geten usually fight high in the air) and turning prinz's footing to slippery ice that geten has full control over and given her lack of acrobatics, I don't think she'll be able to fight properly when the water she's standing on is being constantly frozen and crack open to use against her. Her danmaku might help but given geten's vast amount of ice, he could always intercept and block her attacks not to mention if his ice is broken or even melted, he could just manipulate the broken pieces and reattach them. The only way to break his defenses for good is to vaporize the ice and even then he still has a canal worth of water to freeze as long as he still has a bit of ice left. His higher LS also mean she can't hope to escape if he decide to pin her between his ice which also stop her from attacking properly while he can gradually damage her and if her rigging is damaged then she'll progressively get weaker and if it's fully destroyed then gg
 
I don't see how changing location would make any different. Two videos i've posted above shown that Shipgirls still has same mobility when skating on a ship hull and maneuvering in air.
 
Honestly i don't know anymore, i just can't accept this match as a stomp and had a very hard feeling changing Nejire to Geten
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
Honestly i don't know anymore, i just can't accept this match as a stomp and had a very hard feeling changing Nejire to Geten
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For further explanation, this is because of my pride that i made this match (cinematic wise...in waifu term lel) and refused to accept this as stomp like i said above
 
However in the end i changed it for real, so there you go folks

I'm still not forgiving Rusty for ruining my cinematic waifu match tho
 
Bruh said:
So I'll try to analyze both combatants advantages
Prinz
. Range
. Slightly superior intelligent
. Slight AP advantage
Geten
. Better stamina
. Higher LS (Class M vs Unknown)

At first sight you may think prinz take this but I personally think geten should take this with albeit high difficulty. My reasoning being his ability to freeze the water in the canal, completely negating her torpedo (not like they would work in the first place since geten usually fight high in the air) and turning prinz's footing to slippery ice that geten has full control over and given her lack of acrobatics, I don't think she'll be able to fight properly when the water she's standing on is being constantly frozen and crack open to use against her. Her danmaku might help but given geten's vast amount of ice, he could always intercept and block her attacks not to mention if his ice is broken or even melted, he could just manipulate the broken pieces and reattach them. The only way to break his defenses for good is to vaporize the ice and even then he still has a canal worth of water to freeze as long as he still has a bit of ice left. His higher LS also mean she can't hope to escape if he decide to pin her between his ice which also stop her from attacking properly while he can gradually damage her and if her rigging is damaged then she'll progressively get weaker and if it's fully destroyed then gg
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@Jamesthetaker @Vietthai96 Any counter-arguments about this?
 
Well I don't if this will still work as well if they are fighting in deika but at least geten still has underground water system to work with
 
For Prinz i think it still same as before, Geten probably from Bruh arguments

Let's just wait for James counter-arguments about that and see the outcome
 
In respond to @Bruh argument:

First of all, it's seem like many people are misunderstood that Shipgirls cannot fight on land because they are... well ships, but Shipgirls has done far more things than normal warships can do. Take a look at the videos i've posted above, we seen Zuikaku can skate on a ship hull and Shimakaze maneuver in air like nothing it's obviously that different terrain doesn't matter for Shipgirls. I also don't see if freezing the water would slow them down given that the whole ideal was them skating on water, if anything ice friction would only boost their swiftness further.

Geten could potentially stop torpedo by freezing them, but that is assuming he know them in the first place. As you may or may not know, torpedoes are used in anti-submarine warfare which mean they can go deeper than eyes could seen normally (500 - 800m). Geten don't have any kind of senses that allow him to know there are dozens of them underwater so Prinz could use them to demolish his ice structure underneath.

Historically speaking, Prinz Eugen are equipped with load of guns and each of them are useful against Geten. If he decide to go high then Anti-air guns are obvious choice and almost every Ships in existence has dealt with planes in one way or another. Now i do think that Geten can block her attacks with ice, but navel guns are designed to penetrate thick steel hull in general, i mean just look at this, yes i know it's from 16/50 cal guns but the one from Prinz Eugen can done more or less damage like this. Ice is less dense than metal and easier to penetrated, even if you take a huge ice blocks then the result won't change. Geten could probably tank some of those bullets with 8-A durability but they're still dangerous regardless.

Another aspect i would to explain is both combatants mindset, as the second-in-command of Iron Blood one should expected her to be a calm and collective individual. In this event, the secrect base are being under attacked yet Prinz Eugen keep her calm all the time and figure out entire situation in a short time. I barely watched MHA so i don't know about Geten but Prinz Eugen is perfectly capable of handling any situation without stress, this including finding enemy blind spot and shooting where they're weakest. Geten's ice manip are quite dangerous but i believe Prinz Eugen are smart enough to get around it.

Prinz Eugen FRA.
 
Veloxt1r0kore said:
They can't iirc, so i would change the stage back to Suez Canal
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Actually they can except submarine Shipgirls, they demonstrated the ability to manifest a certain part of their rigging on land in Slow Ahead, they just doesn't need to manifest the "shoes" part which used to slide on water to walk normally on land, just that their speed will be reduce cuz the shoes part of the rigging is represent the propeller and engine. But this is speed equalize match so......

@Jamesthetaker actually only Shimakaze and Zuikaku can perform some degree of acrobatic, it not scale to all shipgirl
 
Realistically speaking, Shipgirls usually fought warships and Sirens which required agile movements in accordance with water walking to dodge intense gunfire and torpedos. Whether Prinz Eugen have acrobatic or not, it doesn't affect her performance much.
 
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Jamesthetaker said:
@Vietthai96

It's implied that all Shipgirls can do acrobatics to certain degree, seeing how Suruga, Enterprise, Tester can all do this.
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Miss the thread cuz some problem pop up. Well Suruga did do some acrobatic with Shimalaze, Enterprise is reference by Veneto that she at least can jump high. I don't remember Tester ever did acrobatic, but it is scale to other shipgirl, they thereotically could perform, but because no feat ever happen so we strict to that, Eugen can jump of course, but acrobatic - currently no
 
Geten mainly fight airborne so I don't know how effective those torpedoes will be, the ground won't just be turn into slippery ice, it'll crack open to knock her off her balance and also attack her. Geten defenses are numerous and replenishable while hers has a time limit. He still has a massive LS advantage, and breaking the ice to escape is not a reliable option given he can just reattach the broken pieces. He has higher stamina while her fighting prowess will continue to dwindle if her rigging suffer damage. And being able to fight on land and being able to jump high and slide on surfaces is not enough of a reason to say that she can effectively fight when an entire ice chasm is being form beneath her with dozen building size icebergs flying toward her from many angle. Geten fra
 
every time I see the threads of Azur lane they are always lost. Zuikaku was better for this fight but Maybe no.
 
Bruh said:
Geten mainly fight airborne so I don't know how effective those torpedoes will be, the ground won't just be turn into slippery ice, it'll crack open to knock her off her balance and also attack her. Geten defenses are numerous and replenishable while hers has a time limit. He still has a massive LS advantage, and breaking the ice to escape is not a reliable option given he can just reattach the broken pieces. He has higher stamina while her fighting prowess will continue to dwindle if her rigging suffer damage. And being able to fight on land and being able to jump high and slide on surfaces is not enough of a reason to say that she can effectively fight when an entire ice chasm is being form beneath her with dozen building size icebergs flying toward her from many angle. Geten fra
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I'll wait more of the counter-argument from James about this before counting

@Vietthai96 @Dereck03 You guys should make your counter argument too lel
 
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As for Geten mainly attak from airborne tho, i recall the shipgirls fought a flying enemies before so i doubt that would be a problem here
 
But her homing torpedoes will be completely useless and that's one less win con for her compare to geten. Also are the votes for prinz new or were they leftovers from nejire vs prinz
 
Shipgirls have acrobatics feats like maneuver in air and they are experienced in fighting danmaku like this so avoid Geten attack isn't impossible, or they could just move further from his range. Ice are easier to penetrate than metal and keep replenish them won't stop bullets from piercing him. Unless Geten know about her torpedos or able to freeze deep into 500-800m water then they're still useful.
 
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