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Gennin level - Massively Hypersonic speed Calculations

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Xulrev said:
@Rocker:

All Raiton simply utilize electricity, but in different ways. So it is fallacious to presume they're interchangeable without explicit evidence, as you provided for a few and I do thank you for. It's why I changed my stance on those ones.
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The only thing different about them is shape and power, that is literally it. It is not fallacious it is shown.

Ok, I am not quite sure what you are saying at this point, that we need to find criteria for each lightning jutsu we attempt to scale? Because that is in fact not how it has worked in the wiki.
 
It seems you didn't read the thread right. We've given the same answer over 5 times in the same thread to the same person.

You can't stop a person from being annoyed. This site even allows people to get annoyed based on the rules that say staff members are annoyed of some threads and arguments getting repeated which is why they're banned.
 
@Lancelot

It looks like someone reading the thread already beat you to the report, actually, just got a notification. I do appreciate seeing the community tries to police itself, this is reassuring.

@Rocker

Yes that actually is my point! Each Justu necessitates its own justification. If it does not, I can reasonably state Light Fang is NOT light by showcasing how Laser Circus is not since they're both the precise same (Storm Release). And that would be deliberate downplay on my part by utilizing what I view as faulty reasoning and poor logic.
 
@Lancelot

I'm okay with it, dude. It's not the first time he's done it and he's going to try to report me because I called him a blind man, I do not give a damn.
This is not the first time he has ignored what is said in such smug language. I'm not even the only one who's already getting annoyed with this guy.

I do not give a damn. It's not my fault that guys are sensitive enough to be upset because I called him blind after ignoring my answer.
 
And I knew I'd raise it and it did not make any difference. Because? Because LF and Laser Circus have a difference ...

One of them has Senjutsu, natural energy. Therefore, they are not the same jutsu and do not possess the same energies within it. One of them is natural and even if they did, Laser Circus does not follow the same line as the LF, and has no criteria.

Unlike Raiton, which has exactly the same feature, changing only shape and power.

PS - And I never called you biased, this is literally your own affirmation. I told to ignore you, because you're just a guy ignoring evidence and filling everyone's patience here.
 
Actually your factually wrong because of the fact that light fang uses senjutsu also the fact that we're using DB statements for light fang

I'm pretty sure if laser release was state to be ligh speed without its bend and was senjutsu based it would have rated as light speed
 
Xulrev said:
@Rocker

Yes that actually is my point! Each Justu necessitates its own justification. If it does not, I can reasonably state Light Fang is NOT light by showcasing how Laser Circus is not since they're both the precise same (Storm Release). And that would be deliberate downplay on my part by utilizing what I view as faulty reasoning and poor logic.
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Thing is Laser circus has been said to be light speed too.

Overwhelming evidence shows that lightning jutsu in general work of the same criteria and especially with earth universally beig a counter to lightning by insulating it.
 
I'm fine with attacking the argument from analogy, but that still does not negate the association fallacy that would apply to Raiton since they all act demonstrably different from one another.
 
Xulrev said:
I'm fine with attacking the argument from analogy, but that still does not negate the association fallacy that would apply to Raiton since they all act demonstrably different from one another.
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But...they dont? Is my point, they only differences again have been shape and power. The things they have both general shown is paralysis being a main one, and conductivity.
 
That's the two most all of them showcase, as I have agreed to.

But the differences lie within the other criteria. I'm still alright with Staff being asked to enter the thread for their opinions, for what it's worth.
 
Ok since you like claiming association fallacies


We will continue to give fire style jutsus the same properties as every other fire style jutsu because of the simple fact that it is fire.

We don't assume something doesn't act like fire or lightning simple because it doesn't show consistently one factor of an ability as a other would
 
Xulrev said:
That's the two most all of them showcase, as I have agreed to.
But the differences lie within the other criteria. I'm still alright with Staff being asked to enter the thread for their opinions, for what it's worth.
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which should not matter 2 criteria is enough.
 
Since this thread is kinda finished I think we need another one for staff to figure out which calcs have the correct characters scaling to them maybe
 
@MostPowrfull ... I am done, I don't care anymore. If all of you are so freely gonna give a pass to the issue with your attitudes, then deal with the consequendes yourself. I am tired of this.

@All And the discussion isn't really done just because you all say it is. Anorher staff to take a look at this would surely help.
 
Staff has evaluated the calc and one has had to comment twice on here. There really isn't anything left here to discuss but just keeping this thread going around in circles
 
@ LSirLancelotDuLacl @ Xulrev

stop derailing content revision discussion threads from the original topic

this gone long enough

this was create for scaling not for that

if u have problem then make crt for that
 
... How in the hell is raising a legitimate issue that could affect the calc used for the scaling "derailing"?

Just how in the fu- Ugh... I honestly don't care, I am tired about these Naruto CRTs and the attitude in them. Elizha already gave his okay, do whatever you want.
 
Another thread should be made with profiles that scale

Think that was supposed to be the original purpose of this one but it's fine to make another one
 
Omimi said:
@ LSirLancelotDuLacl @ Xulrev

stop derailing content revision discussion threads from the original topic

this gone long enough

this was create for scaling not for that

if u have problem then make crt for that
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How exactly is it Derailment? The 1st thing that was brought up in this thread was whether or not Lightning Style is all or nothing on it's speed. Every post here is in regards to that topic. Outside of accusing people of derailment there was no derailment here.
 
Wait what was this thread for anyway??? We still need a new thread cause I thought this was for character scaling but it seems not
 
I'm pretty sure this thread was to scale genin (or at least Boruto Genin) to MHS based on the calculated feet in the OP. Then the question got asked whether or not it was real lightning and could be considered as such (which it appears to be, but I'll ask for another staff input.)
 
I must ask, is this not an outlier? Granted I haven't followed Nardo/Bordo so I don't know how they are in the feats department.
 
@Xulrev

In fact, I think I've gone a little overboard with you. At that particular moment, I was hotheaded.

I sincerely apologize.

@Lancelot

Same with you, man. Sorry if I was rude.
 
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