To preface this,
DSK wasn't even fully hydrated when he performed the feat, and was basically his dehydrated self with more power. This is him at
full power, and there's a sort of
transitionary phase between dehydrated and hydrated after he beats Genos.
Even if Wet DSK was >>> Genos (he ******* isn't), I'm pretty sure there's still valid grounds for scaling to
Hypersonic.
I don't really have a goal of scaling Genos down below the King's hypersonic feat. I agree that it can be scaled up to that, if not even slightly faster (He fought with one hand).
I just don't agree that Wet King is as fast as Genos. He is much slower.
The Wet King would have destroyed Genos in a fistfight.
DSK and PPP were similar in speed, yet both of them could land a massive barrage of combos on each other in this same arc.
Nothing says that's faster than he can realise or some kind of blitz.
Plus, this entire discussion is about Genos being comparable to (albeit slower than) Hydrated DSK because he can strike him in this same manner. You're basically just arguing the subject with the subject.
Sea King is faster than PPP. They are comparable and can scale up to each other (Probably after all, the Sea King was slower than during the dash, which, as Sonic said, is faster than the usual dry King).
But the flurry of PPP strikes was easily blocked by the King.
And the next flurry of punches was too fast for PPP, he didn't have time to react to single hits,
no wonder he didn't react to spam hits. In addition, this can also be explained by the fact that King's single strikes caused PPP to lose control, it was very painful and deafening by all appearances. He wasn't focused enough anymore. However, it is worth noting that the Sea King was not affected by the PPP's hit spam, and the PPP was incredibly hard hit by the Sea King's hit spam.
In turn, Sonic did not deal much damage to the Sea King, but he was unable to react to his every blow, so you can’t justify it in any way. He didn't lose his composure because of the pain, because the blows didn't even move him, they didn't hurt him. He is just much slower than Sonic, who moves much faster than the King can see. We even see the uncomprehending look in the eyes while spamming the blows on the Sea King's face.
That doesn't require being enormously faster, especially since DSK's arms are moving further than Sonic.
Also, Sonic was nearly hit by
DSK's tongue even after he realised it was there.
Firstly, Sonic didn't say anything about slow-mo in the English or Japanese versions.
Secondly, DSK's arm is
fully extended in the second panel, so of course it wouldn't move more than a metre—it literally couldn't. What's more likely is that Sonic avoided the punch by rotating his body, and kicked him in the face and arm.
No, it requires tremendous speed, because we can see here that the punch has already traveled a long distance and almost got to Sonic, the fist is ALREADY close. And Sonic makes an incredibly long 360-degree kick while playing, attacking him faster than he can go even one more meter. You're missing the fact that the punch has already traveled a significant distance.
The moray eel in his tongue only took Sonic by surprise, but you yourself showed that Sonic was able to react to her even point-blank, incredibly close to his face, this shows that Sonic is much faster than the tongue, because he is a way to dodge him almost point-blank.
It would be better if you sent a
continuation of the scene where Sonic easily overtakes the tongue, reaching the King faster than the tongue to the original position of Sonic. In fact, he ran all this distance faster than the King noticed it.
Being faster than running punches is a huge difference in speed. In real life, even comparable people will not be able to dodge each other's blows if each of them dodges without bending the body, doing somersaults and so on, but simply tries to do it RUN, because a person's RUN is always lower than his reaction speed and (in mostly) of his strokes, and the running of a man requires a long acceleration to its peak. The starting speed of a person is generally too low to dodge something when RUNNING FROM THE START.
The person in my example should have time to start running and accelerate to a speed sufficient to bypass the punch, but this is impossible.
I opened the Japanese original. This is some kind of cursed text, but when translated into English, it gives me very strange translations (お前の動きは 完全に見切った), however, through DeepLN I received a translation from Japanese into Russian "I completely saw all your moves" or " I saw through all your moves", which in translation means that Sonic saw absolutely every blow of the Sea King in detail. This means that he perceives it in slow mo.
The hand is drawn blurry and with a trace of movement, which means that at the moment of the frame the blow is still moving, which means that the frame showed us the end of the blow at the same moment it ended, and in parallel with this we see that Sonic has already finished his blow while the King finishes his hit.
Sonic is many times faster than the Sea King.
It can be very easily; DSK wasn't really expecting it. This doesn't mean Genos is somehow superior to DSK.
No, that's a stupid excuse. It's just a wank. Because otherwise Genos would blitz the Dry King. Because the wet form is much faster than the dry form. The dry form makes Sonic feel comfortable just RUN to dodge his punches, while the wet form makes him panic. For Sonic, the King of the Sea moves in slow motion.
You're trying to scale a wet king to genos in one hit, completely ignoring a ton of points where dry king and genos were comparable.
Emphasis on timeframe and same scenes. We don't use anime only feats, and
Sonic was still on site by the time DSK landed the punch in canon. They're not the same at all.
Also, I forgot to mention this, but Sonic statuing DSK was the same scene where DSK performed the
Hypersonic feat. So it makes this entire discussion redundant.
We use anime timeframes for manga scenes if those scenes are the same. Actually, the scenes from the manga were in the anime, and there Sonic perceived all the tricks of the sea king in slow motion. In this case, these are the same scenes, but we see that inside their timeframe, Sonic sees the King in slow mo.
The last statement is ridiculously strange. What else is a static sonic? He literally stood still in surprise and dodged the blow at the last moment, more to say, he overtook the Sea King during the jump from the anime, he is still faster than him.
