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I don't understand what you're saying here. Can you reword it?
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General OPM Revision Thread
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Well
- The databook page for Beefcake gives the crater's diameter. It's 100 meters according to the page
- The only other option for the crater is to solely calc it from the scene itself. Beefcake cannot be used in any way to get a size as he's not drawn with any degree of consistency by Murata
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Seriously? This is not kidding?
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I linked it in my previous comment.
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Over 100 meters means it's at most 199 meters and closer to 100 meters than anything else.
How we take statements like this is based on the lower value. If its "Over 100 meters" that means it isn't considered to be over 200 meters, or else they would've just used "Over 200 meters".
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What?
I'm pretty sure "over 100 meters" just means that it's larger than 100 meters...
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See my previous comment. The maximum the line can imply for the site is 199 meters to my knowledge. If it over 200 meters then the book would have to have said "Over 200 meters".
In my view though, Beefcake's listed size is terrible and his drawn size is terrible. It's probably better to just use the scene itself to get a number.
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It makes sense.
It seems to me that the author knows better about the sizes than his fans. We must use 100 meters. Murata admitted that he draws all the scenes and all the characters as powerfully as possible. So, his drawing simply hyperbolizes the canonical instructions. Officially.
The most extreme option is "At least 7-C, possibly 7-B" to account for all crater size variations.
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(this is what we should've done with the sp^2. At least 4-A, possibly 3-C to 3-B would have been much better.)
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(Please go away)
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Well the issue is the use of the word "Single handedly" rather than "in a single attack". Just being stronger than most A-Class would make the monster untouchable and able to destroy a city over a given period of time.
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Deleted my comment. For context, Qawsed is referring to this, which I was asking about
I guess that makes sense
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the link doesn’t lead to anything
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Meanwhile prisoner losing to a demon level in his first fight of the series 
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It's the wiki punishing you for being a MHA supporterOnce again I randomly stop getting notifications from threads I follow
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It's not like the Gigavolt Smash is a single bolt of lightning though with all of the energy focused into a single point; it's being released omnidirectionally and simultaneously attacking multiple creatures around the Brave Giant.
So assuming each creature there is individually being hit by the full power of the Gigavolt Smash looks unwarranted to me.
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We've already been discussing the Brave Giant stuff here, but the Carnage stuff is new and would scale to only a few characters (particularly DS, who's >> base Carnage).
Let's handle it in another thread if people are trying to manufacture problems with Beefcake now.
Let's handle it in another thread if people are trying to manufacture problems with Beefcake now.
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Okay.
It seems like we just need to finish up the speed sandbox? The current AP sandbox looks fine to me except it's missing the Striking Strength sections which may be different to AP in some cases.
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For speed, we just remove Fubuki from the equation to make everything simple.
She couldn't see a slightly weakened Bomb, and we've established that Rover doesn't really scale to Bang and Bomb.
Fubuki should just scale to Do-S, who downscale somewhat considerably from the Swordsmen. This is more in-line with Genos.
It's a bit iffy given Half-Monster Garou's fight with Rover, though. But it can be explained away given that Rover was weakened against Fubuki.
She couldn't see a slightly weakened Bomb, and we've established that Rover doesn't really scale to Bang and Bomb.
Fubuki should just scale to Do-S, who downscale somewhat considerably from the Swordsmen. This is more in-line with Genos.
It's a bit iffy given Half-Monster Garou's fight with Rover, though. But it can be explained away given that Rover was weakened against Fubuki.
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Can I get a recap on this?
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TOO LONG.
When will the updates take effect?
When will the updates take effect?
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Let's just scale everyone (Even the Prisoner) to Tatsumaki and be done with it.
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Stop joking around on here and filling the thread up more with useless posts, please.
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On another note, I think we should cut out the combat speed part from Metal Bat's profile and make him MHS+ overall. He didn't just block an attack from SC, he also outran it.
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Apparently peeps wanted to cover scaling in another thread, but I feel like I'll just throw my 2 cents here and stop at that.Well, Ziller and I pointed it out on the General Thread but this scan from the databook changes a lot of things:
Particularly this part:
This would mean that Kabuto physical power is "incomparably higher" than Marugori's (Beefcake) who is 7-B.
The statement is clear and concise pointing out especifically "physical power" which is why we won't be scaling Kabuto to Vaccine Man who has unknown AP and Striking Stength without his energy balls
This one is a bit weird because I feel the text can be interpreted in either CK is stronger than any monster created by HoE or any monster that was shown before. However, the databook may be referring to other monsters it was previously talking about in prior pages.
I could probably do with "likely 7-B" unless there's further context.
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Vaccine man’s physicals are irrelevant here
“Kabuto’s physical abilities are above the abilities of every monster from before” is talking about Kabuto’s physicals, not vaccine man’s.
“Kabuto’s physical abilities are above the abilities of every monster from before” is talking about Kabuto’s physicals, not vaccine man’s.
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I am aware, I am saying that he scales above vaccine man’s 7-B regardless of physicals
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it’s very clearly saying that his physical abilities are greater than the abilities (doesn’t specify physical) of the monsters that came before him
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The context makes it pretty clear that it's referring to his physical abilities being greater than previous monster's physical abilities. And it could also just be referring to the monsters in the House of Evolution that has come before him.
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