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You are literally just making shit up
It literally just says that Kabuto’s physical abilities are greater than the abilities of the monsters that came before him
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General OPM Revision Thread
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It literally just says that Kabuto’s physical abilities are greater than the abilities of the monsters that came before him
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This is just objectively false, I have no idea where you’re getting this from
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agree
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I misremembered the quote
but it says this
“On a physical level, he possesses abilities that are in an incomparably higher league than the other monsters so far”
It could mean multiple things
Kabuto’s physicals are greater than the physicals of other monsters
Or
Kabuto’s physicals are greater than other monsters
More importantly, you do realize that vaccine man’s explosions are “physical” too, the word physical could easily apply to his explosions, which are very much physical
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Eh, now you're reaching
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Well the wording could still easily imply that Kabuto’s physicals abilities are > monsters before him as I said
and separating physical attacks with “physicals” could be argued to be a thing where blasts would be physical, but hax stuff wouldn’t because it’s not AP
and separating physical attacks with “physicals” could be argued to be a thing where blasts would be physical, but hax stuff wouldn’t because it’s not AP
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And it could even more easily not, as it typically does in these contexts. Like I said, maybe it's enough for a possibly rating.
Most Espers don't use hax. It's more likely to be associated with the IRL definition, which refers to strength, coordination, speed, agility, stamina, lung capacity, etc.
Most Espers don't use hax. It's more likely to be associated with the IRL definition, which refers to strength, coordination, speed, agility, stamina, lung capacity, etc.
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Slapping a possibly rating on it is okay with me
I just don’t think it should be entirely discredited, since it could just be awkward semantics which would be really frustrating
I just don’t think it should be entirely discredited, since it could just be awkward semantics which would be really frustrating
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IIRC, Genos' beam speed is unusable.
The HH version of the Death Shower is fine. Although, I think using 100 rounds would be better than 900 given that Gattling had partially emptied his clip while firing at Garou previously.
DSK's calc is fine, but he's technically a bit faster than base.
The characters aren't like dozens of times slower than Psyko Jet's beams.
The HH version of the Death Shower is fine. Although, I think using 100 rounds would be better than 900 given that Gattling had partially emptied his clip while firing at Garou previously.
DSK's calc is fine, but he's technically a bit faster than base.
The characters aren't like dozens of times slower than Psyko Jet's beams.
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Give dry king base “at most” then I guess
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I think we should really look into EC intercepting the Spiral Incineration Cannon, given that EC's travelling way faster than rubble from the cabin.
While Genos is inferior, he's not immensely slower, and Bang/Bomb are faster.
While Genos is inferior, he's not immensely slower, and Bang/Bomb are faster.
I don't think there's any need. Genos ****** up an even faster version in one scene.
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This is VERY contrary to the fact that the dry Sea King is keeping up with Genos.
As we remember, the wet King is so much faster than the dry that Sonic perceived the dry one as static.
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He didn't perceive him as static, he was faster and could dodge his blows easily but not to the point of statuing him.
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He could move over 80m before DSK could perceive him. I’m pretty sure he could statue him.
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why would wet scale to Sonic.
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Sonic was faster than Hydrated DSK.
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Do I really have to explain this to you? Timmy did you even watch the anime or read the manga?
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True, he was marginally faster than him
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Its been a while but afaik Sonic blitz him badly at the end.
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Deep Sea King could perceive him through the whole fight and almost got the drop on him with his moray, Sonic was considerably faster but not to the point of statuing him.
Once it starts raining Deep Sea King can keep up and almost catch Sonic
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Are you saying that the Death Shower just fired 100 rounds? I don't feel like that's correct
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Looks like a blitz to me.
He did catch Sonic, but Sonic casually undressed himself and traveled up a building before DSK even realized he wasn’t really holding him. If they’re so close in speed this wouldn’t be possible.
Even tho he was dozen meters away from him sonic visibly blitz him. Even DSK says he disappeared and not ran away.
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Sonic has shown some degree of Illusion Creation (which makes sense considering his ninja training) and it's noted on his profile, "very casually" is a straight up lie given how agitated Sonic looked before this.
It depends completely on translation and interpretation, besides in the same panel you posted he says "let the small fry run for now" so he knows Sonic just ran away
But I'm not gonna argue about this with you, we will be derailing for no reason.
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What do we do then? As you said the speed difference isn't enough for a different rating so we just give the character who scale to the beams MHS and call it a day?
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When has he shown illusion creation? DSK thought he caught him but in reality it was his clothes. It was a fake out, the fact that this has never been expanded on, confirmed or referenced ever again just makes it seem less reliable.
We visibly see Sonic disappear from his POV. He called him small fry bc he’s physically weak.
True.
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Unless the gap isn't as large as you're portraying.
In the anime only.
That's why there was a calculation of it, and we never used that for Sonic.
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No, the gap is huge. Sonic is capable of landing a huge amount of punches faster than King can realize, he is able to calmly evade each of his strikes with incredible ease. And most revealingly, he delivers an incredibly long 360-degree punch faster than King fist less than a meter, despite the fact that Sonic originally saw this punch in slow mo.
But Sonic is only marginally faster than the Wet King.
The fact that Genos attacked the Wet King faster than he reacted is just a plot hole, it can't be justified. Except for the fact that the Sea King allowed himself to be hit, but that sounds stupid. Well, or Genos' energy-filled strikes make him faster, but it sounds implausible.
We always use anime timeframes for the same scenes. We do this in the current calculation of the speed of King, and for the arrow of Genos.
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Genos can consistently keep up with Wet DSK even with one arm, so he scales anyway.
Let's remember that Genos was using Arms Mode when facing DSK so I guess its an speed amp or something
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It was just one moment. For 99% of the rest of the fight, he fought at equal speeds with the dry Sea King.
However, I remembered that Genos traded blows with him on equal footing with only ONE arm. However, the Sea King reacted perfectly to this rush.
If Genos' 1 arm is as fast as the 2 arms of the Deep Sea King, then his combat speed should be higher, I think.
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However, Genos barely managed to save the girl from the acid.
However, the acid initially traveled a certain distance before Genos overtook it.
In general, it seems to me that Genos is really faster than a dry King, but much slower than a wet one.
However, the acid initially traveled a certain distance before Genos overtook it.
In general, it seems to me that Genos is really faster than a dry King, but much slower than a wet one.
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However, while on the same regimen, the Dry King still reacts to Genos, constantly and consistently. You are comparing one hit to a wet King with hundreds of hits to a dry one. Genos is faster than the Dry King, but not by much. It is still much slower than the wet version because it is comparable to the dry one.To make my point clearer this is Genos when he encountered Sonic, as you can see he is carrying the briefcase that contains his Arms Mode upgrade:
When he faces Deep Sea King he has already applied his Arms Mode upgrade:
So Genos scales to Wet DSK with Arms Mode
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Genos is missing an arm his speed is clearly nerfed because of it.
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While this is true it doesn’t seem like enough reasoning to scale him to wet.
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