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Understandable, but it might help with giving as good an overview as possible if we see all of the updated characters.
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General OPM Revision Thread
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Understandable, but it might help with giving as good an overview as possible if we see all of the updated characters.
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Quick question, but wasn't DSK hydrated by the rain when he performed the Hypersonic feat on his profile? Why is it being applied to his dry key?
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I mean I suppose he wasn't that amped yet? He was still in his dry state when he performed the feat.
His amp happens overtime.
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Idk, no one has calced them yet for some reason
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Here are two calcs for Rover AP:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:User_Name_2/Overgrown_Rover's_AP_(Recalculation)
This one has a low 7-B high end that Therefir said could be fine but never gave a definitive evaluation, it could be useful
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Also I insist that somebody should calc this Brave Giant feat, the human Ninjas would scale to it and therefore the cadres and a ton of other characters.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:User_Name_2/Overgrown_Rover's_AP_(Recalculation)
This one has a low 7-B high end that Therefir said could be fine but never gave a definitive evaluation, it could be useful
Rover creates EarthQuakes
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Also I insist that somebody should calc this Brave Giant feat, the human Ninjas would scale to it and therefore the cadres and a ton of other characters.
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This is like tier 8 tops
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We need to decide if the floors were burned with heat aka incinerated or destroyed through force aka pulverized.
If we go with heat that would make the feat unusable for scaling, I think? That's what everyone is saying about Homeless Emperor's High 7-A feat.
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Well the blasts create large explosions that leave debris and are described as "heat bombs" or "concentrated heat blasts" by Gyoro Gyoro, depending on translation
And here are other panels of Rover's blasts:
I don't really agree with this logic because as you can see Rover blasts have some kind of tangibility and can be interacted with physically and this is the same with Homeless Emperor energy balls getting deflected by Iaian with his sword and cut and dispersed by Atomic Samurai
There is also Choze's blast that was grabbed, held and deflected by Suiryu with a kick.
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Pretty sure heat scaling is still useable for durability, since even with massive heat resistance it doesn’t protect you from a heat value higher than your tier
Which I guess means you could say that the sun blade has high 7-A durability, and Garou would also scale to being able to take the heat of rover and Orochi’s blasts
Which I guess means you could say that the sun blade has high 7-A durability, and Garou would also scale to being able to take the heat of rover and Orochi’s blasts
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They're just giant fireballs yeah, not saying they don't have force behind them but almost al of the material they impact gets incarnated.
His orbs, while being physical, are described as balls of fire by HE himself. When attacking Iaian and seeing signs of resistance he claims to be "turning up to temperature" of his balls right before he tries to kill them. When he vaporizes the giant landmass it's not from impact or a shockwave being released from an impact. It's the fireball expanding and melting the rock it touched. This is clearly a temperature feat sadly
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I also calced the Evil Eye tornado but got tier 8 results so I scrapped it.
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No, just heat resistance. Energy produced when melting something doesn't equate to actual impact energy.
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High 7-A heat will annihilate a 7-B with “high 7-A” heat resistance
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What's the point of having High 7-A heat resistance then?
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Pretty sure a high 7-A with no resistance gets killed by a 7-B heat attack, but a high 7-A with high 7-A resistance can survive a 7-B heat attack
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What I mean is that if 8-B is 1000 degrees or something, then someone who can withstand 1000 degrees is 8-B, even if not all 8-B people can withstand 1000 degrees
That’s just how I thought it worked
That’s just how I thought it worked
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It’s not. It’s just heat resistance.
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Temperature on the site more or less ignores durability. Even at the core of the sun a person isn't being exposed to more than Tier 7 levels of energy.
So withstanding heat is a resistance rather than a joules based durability thing. Though for Rover's case it's attacks are more like plasma balls that explode rather than beams of heat.
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I understand that heat ignores durability, but I am just saying that the resistance doesn’t ignore AP
A 9-C character is not physically capable of withstanding the center of the sun even if they have heat resistance, because your resistance cannot be higher than your durability
which is the signfigance of heat having an AP in the first place
A 9-C character is not physically capable of withstanding the center of the sun even if they have heat resistance, because your resistance cannot be higher than your durability
which is the signfigance of heat having an AP in the first place
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Yeah, it can. I could show you a 9-A that has 5-A electricity resistance, and heat resistance works the same way.
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Which is presumably a special case due to some outside ability or absorption thing
Either that or it’s just wrong and needs to be fixed.
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There’s no such thing as “high 7-A heat”
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We literally have a high 7-A temperature calc on homeless emperor
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Do you guys not realize that we’ve been giving AP values for heat feats for ages now? This is very clearly just pulling “heat feats bad” out of your arses for the sake of baseless downgrades
I get that all these recalcs and stuff have got everyone riled up, but there’s no changing how we treat heat feats because of it
I get that all these recalcs and stuff have got everyone riled up, but there’s no changing how we treat heat feats because of it
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Todoroki had every single one of his temperature feats removed bc of that. They don’t scale conventionally. Now show me all of these “accepted” temperature feats.
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Nobody is pulling anythin out of their butts, it’s just a feat that we can’t use.
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How about the ones on the page of the verse we’re talking about
One second heat feats are accepted because they are, and the next second heat feats aren’t accepted because “we don’t do that”
I’m going to need an actual source of evidence for this
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Bro, if you’re melting rock via high temperatures it’s not scaling to impact energy because heat energy is quite literally the same. Todoroki is a prime example.
Just because something is accepted in the past doesn’t mean it’s always correct.
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Just ask any calc member, I’ll make a CRT on it rn.
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It’ll still be a temperature feat.
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Also, I don't think it's fair to boil down (pun intended) Rover or Homeless Emperor's attacks to simply heat-based abilities. Sure, they are heat balls, but the things that are being calced is the damage as a result of them exploding, not them just moving through and melting the area effected.
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Which can still be used for AP. I'm confused.
It takes 4358.9475 Joules/cc to melt rock. Joules is a unit of energy that we use here. I'm not sure what the issue is.
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Rover's case?
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