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Orion (DC Comics)Can you write all of the exact page titles in a plain text format list please, so my page-unlocking program can easily handle it?
Highfather
Darkseid (Pre-Flashpoint)
Lightray
Yuga Khan
Kalibak
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General DC Comics Discussion Thread
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Highfather
Darkseid (Pre-Flashpoint)
Lightray
Yuga Khan
Kalibak
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Done with everything.Thank you. I have unlocked those pages now.
Tell me here when you are done please.
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Funnily enough Lightray would be the second other person with High Outer arguments. The Great Darkness couldn't touch him in the Waiternum
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recent comics?
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Yes.
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Ram Vs New Gods issue 6
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was he amped or smth. shit seems like inconsistent or anti feat rather than upgrade ngl
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Only Big Barda was updated with it since I happened to make a profile for her
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Oh no. He was killed by Karok Ator and The Racer took Lightrays soul to the Source via The Waiternum Current. The Waiternum is basically the middle ground of the light of Creation and The Great Darkness, the darkness broke into the waiternum and Lightray as a little fleck of light wards off the darkness and states that the darkness cannot touch him before the Racer deposits him into The Source demanding it to return Lightray so that they may race once again and that he can win fairly
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well ig that can work then though I should prolly check comics though
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Read Ram Vs run. New Gods 2024. The New Gods don't seem nearly as impressive as how Grant or Geoff portrayed them but once you delve deeper oh boy, they're actually the strongest they've been lol. Most of the stuff from The New God Physiology Thread comes from that single run
Oh and the stories amazing
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It clarified the relationship between the Source and Overvoid. It went into a bit of depth as to what The Source actually is. It gave us twink Desaad and it gave us Mr. Miracle respect
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Alpha and Omega force are powers of The Source. That would also work
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Thank you. I have locked those pages again.
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Here's a suggestion for KO Darkseid:
King Omega Darkseid
Attack Potency: High Outerverse level (After becoming the personification of all Omega Energy within the Absolute Universe, Darkseid transformed into a living singularity that alters and consumes all around him. His Omega Energy spread across the Timestream and Hypertime, burning and corrupting them while conquering nearly all eras of time. Through the Omega Speed he created to supplant the Speed Force, his energy began harming and destabilizing the Speed Force itself, while his expanding Omega singularity started assimilating fundamental aspects of existence such as magic and sorcery)
King Omega Darkseid
Attack Potency: High Outerverse level (After becoming the personification of all Omega Energy within the Absolute Universe, Darkseid transformed into a living singularity that alters and consumes all around him. His Omega Energy spread across the Timestream and Hypertime, burning and corrupting them while conquering nearly all eras of time. Through the Omega Speed he created to supplant the Speed Force, his energy began harming and destabilizing the Speed Force itself, while his expanding Omega singularity started assimilating fundamental aspects of existence such as magic and sorcery)
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When did this happen?How the duckThe Source can be Boundless? people are interacting with it and we can saw its purest form
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She was amped by being on gemworld so that one doesn’t work, I have no clue what the other one is the link won’t load
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Well her profile use some of her amped self feats. She also fought Raven offscreen in base, froze Mother Blood and was capable of hurting a Rebirth Connor Kent (and some instances of her wisthanding hits from Starfire but eh)
Here. She used her telekinesis magic to harm Cyborg
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Yeah, with all of that it makes more sense for her to be 2-C then 8-C
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And those who saw it were reverted back to pre-creational states. The purest form of the Source is beyond the Light of Creation and the Great Darkness. It precedes all.How the duck
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Prob gonna change this later given that we had a thread for 2-C scaling that passed anyways
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When Kamal used it the Nyctari were obliterated beyond oblivion basicallyHow the duck
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It's The Overvoid/Presence
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Yes.
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It seems to mostly make sense, but isn't The Speed Force functioning on different levels, the one within the multiverse that was created by The World Forger, and the one vastly transcending it as defined in the recent arc-angles storyline?
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Considering Darkseid was going to entirely replace it with his Omega Speed I feel it would make sense as the multiverse one is an emanation of the true one. Basically Darkseid wanted to get rid of the speedforce entirelyIt seems to mostly make sense, but isn't The Speed Force functioning on different levels, the one within the multiverse that was created by The World Forger, and the one vastly transcending it as defined in the recent arc-angles storyline?
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Well, I think that we only have proof for him scaling from the in-multiverse version so far, so High 1-A seems too excessive at this time, as Darkseid is still bound to the multiverse, rather than transcending it in its entirety.
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I feel like Darkseid does scale as with the deep change arc Mirror Master got ***** slapped by the Arc Angels into oblivion but was seemingly saved by Darkseid and he was in the Absolute UniverseWell, I think that we only have proof for him scaling from the in-multiverse version so far, so High 1-A seems too excessive at this time, as Darkseid is still bound to the multiverse, rather than transcending it in its entirety.
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Are you talking about the Deep Change? Because in this story, the Speed, Still, Sage and Strength Forces were revealed to be expressions of the same universal constant which is their source. Although I agree that the Speed Force operates on different levels and has many layers, such as the main energy field from which the speedsters draw their power, or deeper metaphysical areas like the Gallery of Moments, the comic does not claim that Darkseid only affected one layer of it.It seems to mostly make sense, but isn't The Speed Force functioning on different levels, the one within the multiverse that was created by The World Forger, and the one vastly transcending it as defined in the recent arc-angles storyline?
In the comics, Darkseid's Omega energy spreads through the Timestream and Hypertime, and he created Omega Speed to replace the Speed Force. The latter is depicted as injured, even dying. The speedsters explicitly state that it is suffering and under attack. This suggests that Darkseid is affecting the Speed Force as a whole, not just a small part of it.
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There's also Mirror Master appearing in the Absolute Universe after he was supposedly nuked by the Deep Change
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Well, Darkseid is here depicted as an entity bound to and affecting the multiverse, not transcending it, so I do not think that we should scale him beyond that.
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Do you have scans that tell us he is bound by multiverse? Just because he is affecting multiverse doesn't seems to be reason he is bound. K.O Darkseid is empowered by Omega Energy, so this is not Darkseid which is bound by SoG or Multiverse itself. Our wiki FAQ tells us, empowerment is valid reason to jump beyond what you areWell, Darkseid is here depicted as an entity bound to and affecting the multiverse, not transcending it, so I do not think that we should scale him beyond that.
However, there are ways to bypass this barrier. For example, a non-1-A can be empowered by a higher entity into being able to influence things on a qualitatively superior level. This can happen either by a straightforward power boost, or by means of some innate metaphysical potential rooted in something from a higher reality (This can include both characters who are converted into natives of higher planes and characters who are physically lower-dimensional but have 1-A statistics). In neither case is the capability to reach into the higher level something emergent from the structure of the lower level, and therefore they are acceptable ways to get around the above hurdles.
So unless we have scans that telling us King Omega Darkseid is bound from Multiverse somehow, I guess Elizio's suggestions makes sense there. Again I didn't follow DC K.O to end and might have missed some anti-feat which disqualifies K.O Darkseid being High 1-A
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Alpha and Omega energies > Crisis and Anti Crisis energies which was basically death metals deus ex machinaWell, Darkseid is here depicted as an entity bound to and affecting the multiverse, not transcending it, so I do not think that we should scale him beyond that.
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Well, Darkseid is the embodiment of the absolute DC universe, which is a part of the DC multiverse, and he has been stated by the writers to only almost transcend space and time, and he has not been shown interacting with and affecting reality beyond the multiverse, so I definitely do not think that we have remotely sufficient amounts of available evidence for that Darkseid vastly transcends it in its entirety.
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Well personally, I do not see contradictions though, as for reality Elizio already said he was affecting Speedforce which we accepted as High 1-A, since Speedforce is Qualititavely Superior to Reality itself and he reached Hypertime even(Affecting reality beyond SoG) I think we have sufficent amounts to argue this powerupWell, Darkseid is the embodiment of the absolute DC universe, which is a part of the DC multiverse, and he has been stated by the writers to only almost transcend space and time, and he has not been shown interacting with and affecting reality beyond the multiverse, so I definitely do not think that we have remotely sufficient amounts of available evidence for that Darkseid vastly transcends it in its entirety.
1. He had empowerement. It is already stated in FAQ as empowerement can be massive reason for Q.S
2. He is affecting Speedforce and changing it whole which we accepted as High 1-A
3. He is affecting Hypertime which we accepted as 1-A+(Hence beyond Sphere of Gods where Darkseid scales to)
If that is reason then yes High 1-A rating is pretty much justified and makes sense. Although I dropped DC K.O like two month ago so you might be right. I was just scrolling through discussion. I guess it is better to wait Elizio's full argument
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What about Perpetuas Big Bang? It was the only thing K.O.D never claimed and it elevated Superman to the same wavelength of power as K.O.D
